Ongoing Low Carb Bootcamp Chat Thread

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Well done everyone who completed the Summer Bootcamp!

here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness if you want to continue adding to it

Obviously there are many of us who want to continue, either to lose more weight or just for general support to help with this WOE, so here is a brand new, shiny chat thread.

As for me, having slipped a lot a little when I was away, I'm firmly back on the wagon today.

And can I remind you, that if you haven't completed the survey we would be very grateful for your views/thoughts on how we can improve Bootcamp.

Cobblers - actually, perhaps the whitebait was ok - depends on how it was cooked. I assumed battered & deep fried, but perhaps not?

I think sticking to the same thing day in day out will quickly lead to boredom, especially when there is so much to choose from. There are loads of ideas on this and other threads - also there is a LC section in the recipe pages of MN.

TMIviper is a pretty cool name!

Morning all, thought I would just pop in, 22 pages?!!!

My find of the week: Lidl "Milton gate" pork chipolata sausages, 95% British pork and 1.7g carbs per 100g. Sizzling nicely here while I type this.

Apologies if anyone has mentioned them already.

Off to lose an entire morning to catch up on this thread

It had a very light dusting of flour and then fried?

I think I'm going to find 3 days worth of food for now to get me started and rotate them.
Once i start seeing a difference I'll become more confident but desperate to see some changes before the holiday so can cope with the boredom of same foods for now!

Hi all, pleased to say I'm over the carb flu I think and feeling much better. Not sure yet how much weight I've lost but I already feel much better on this way of eating, much less bloated and sluggish. And I'm not hungry. And I don't feel the least deprived. I'm eating dairy and the odd nut but i'm in it for the long haul so not too bothered at the moment if this slows me down a bit...
Went out for dinner last night and managed OK I thought. Scallops with pancetta, parsnip puree, pancetta (I ignored the puree), then steak with spiced butter, salad and chips (I ignored the chips). BUT, I could taste that there was a ton of sugar in the salad dressing, why would you do that?? On the other hand impressed that I could so easily detect it!

Cobblers a lot of us are posting our daily food on this very thread so why not scroll back through it and see what strikes your fancy. My usual day is Greek yoghurt and five strawberries (cut up so it seems like more) for breakfast. Lunch is salad with oily dressing and a protein source (e.g. leftover salmon or drumstick, slices beef, boiled eggs). Dinner is where I get most of my fat so salmon baked in foil with loads of butter, fried lamb chops, chicken drumsticks with melted butter brushed on. Accompanied with two vegetables either roasted in olive oil (asparagus, broccoli), fried in butter (courgettes, mushrooms) or steamed/boiled/microwaved and melted butter added (cabbage, broccoli). I always try and cook extra so there's some left for lunch or snacking the next day. For snacks I have 10 salted almonds or a Peperami or pork scratchings or a small piece of cheese.

Just tried total yogurt, and its lovely! It's day 2 here and we're off to the local farmers market in a while, where there'll be a true test of my willpower as I usually get a gorgeous lemon polenta cake there.. And have half of dh's chocolate cheesecake too! Instead I'll be picking salads and cheeses :(

Thanks everyone.

Beryl I was a bit wobbly after it was all over so I think the sugar was a bit helpful on that occasion. I slept ok, surprisingly, but had some very very bizarre dreams and feel really sluggish this morning. DD woke me up this morning from a dream where I was being chased by a helicopter - HEMS were there yesterday. The ambulance crews were bloody brilliant, incidentally, and it was amazing watching them and the HEMS crew working so smoothly and effectively. We are very lucky to have our NHS, imo. Luckily I knew one of the crews so was able to help out a bit.

Second there were lots of good people there yesterday, motorists and cyclists who stopped immediately. We worked really well as a team until the emergency services arrived (which felt like forever but wasn't, obviously). But some of the other motorists were numpties, trying to drive on past the scene instead of waiting or turning round etc. DP told me that one woman got out of her car and started taking photos! Unfuckingbelievable that someone would photograph a potentially dying young man lying in the road. It's a good job I didn't see her because I think I'd have slapped her.

I felt really sorry for the driver too, she was very young and I think Spanish (so maybe not used to driving on the left). When we walked the dogs afterwards, she was sitting under a tree with her friend and I stopped to check she was ok. She was so shocked and so young.

Anyway, onwards and upwards! Feels a bit cooler today, which is good.

Also the recipie thread has loads of ideas.

I am going to go stick my head in the fridge and figure out how to play meals and carb eaters vs low carbers and those wanting hot meals vs those who think it is too hot to eat

Crabby, good job you were there. Sounds like you stayed very calm, I would have gone to pieces

I'm devastated that I'm so bloated. I'm only mid cycle so don't think it's that. I'm trying to drink 2.5 to 3 litres of water each day. I have been having cheese each day so will cut back on that and see if it helps. I know I had the bread and butter pudding yesterday but that was my only slip up apart from a glass of wine spritzer Wednesday. I know it was stupid but couldn't resist. However I was bloated before the B&B pudding so that's not the reason.

My dh has been eating loads of c**p (his way of dealing with his unemployment I guess) and I've withstood temptation all the time, no crisps or chocolate or biscuits. I've had no berries all week either.

Can I keep posting what I eat and if anything leaps out please point it out to me?!
Thanks

Thanks loopy, I didn't feel calm at all and I don't think I sounded it either! I just waded straight in and started bossing people about and it turned out afterwards that one of the three or four of us doing stuff was a fireman, and therefore probably much much more knowledgeable than me about it all. I was . I wish he'd said something!

Could it be the heat that's making you bloated? You could try a herbal diuretic like dandelion leaves or yarrow? Even nettles? Of course post what you're eating, I think it really helps to see it written down.

Hi all - Can I slink back in?

I lost loads of weight up to Christmas - then fell off the wagon hard. I'm too scared to weigh right now, but I think I'm bigger than my highest before

I'm back on this WOE since Tuesday - already feel less bloated. I think I need to keep track here, so I'm accountable to someone.

Hello :)

Well, I read the whole thread last night (not sleeping again - nothing to do with the heat). It was nice to be missed - thank you

As MrsHP said, I've been having laptop problems (it is off to the 'Drs' on Wed which will hopefully help a little bit) and the previous thread just wasn't loading.

Welcome to all the 'back-on-the-wagoners' and all the 'newbies' :)

Huge congrats to all of those dropping the lbs & inches!!

Crabby - you did do everything right, you did the only thing you could do in the circumstances and yes, you did deserve the ice cream!!

Some of you were asking about Peanut butter - it doesn't seem to affect me (I have a Tbs or two every couple of days on celery) and avocados - they don't seem to affect me either and are full of nutrients & good fats, so I have one pretty much every day.

Very lengthy catch up saga - please feel free to ignore

In addition to laptop problems I felt that LC wasn't 'working' for me, so I was avoiding posting so as not to bring everyone down with me. My body seems to do 'ok' with 'diets/WOE' for the first while, then it seems to stage a revolt!! It has been 6 months (next week).

My weight has been doing strange things - I lost 6 lbs (slowly) then regained in, then up and down a couple of pounds. So the previous month I ended up right back where I'd started. A whole month and no over all loss :( Huge Grrrrrrrrrr

I have been really good as well. The only thing I can think of is that my body has a fucking mind of its own is that because my weight loss was so slow I had been trying to up the fat & protein (not easy as a vegetarian trying to avoid eating too much dairy!!). I had increased the tofu & quorn I was eating & added fat to my meals. My body doesn't seem to like that.

I have gone back to less protein (tofu & quorn) and not deliberately adding fat to my meals but still cooking with butter when necessary and using oil in salads etc (but not over doing it to 'add' fat) and it seems to have started moving again.

The jury is still out re coffee/cream/milk. I had a starbucks latte last Sunday and a friend made me a latte with a small amount of FF milk on Tuesday - the next day I was down 1.5 lbs and haven't gone up from that weight (in fact I'm currently going down) - so I'm not sure it does affect me that much, on the other hand I haven't had any since and while the scales are going down I'm reluctant.

I have been LC since the end of January and it's quite a struggle as a vegetarian when I'm out and impossible to get anything like the protein I 'should' be having without large amounts of tofu/quorn.

However, I was diagnosed with Diabetes T2 in January (HbA1c 9.3) and got my levels right down (HbA1c 5.8) in under 3 months which I am attributing to low carbing. I have my next test in just over a week - so that will be interesting.

While I was away in Wales I had a very very small ice cream (in a baby cone, which I gave to the seagulls). I didn't have any ice cream last time I went to Wales as I was due my HbA1c test when I got back, but everyone had said I must as it was 'the best' - so I did this time, on the beach :) First ice cream in 6 months. It wasn't 'all that' which was good, it hasn't left me craving more and my blood sugar levels didn't go up beyond what they would if I ate salad - so I was chuffed. I haven't actually 'pushed' to see what does or doesn't affect my bsl's as I have been keeping in ketosis and lc for weight loss. I avoided all the other 'seaside' treats give the girl a gold star.

Weirdly, it was after this trip away that my weight started moving again. It did last time I went to Wales too... maybe I need to move

I really do believe in low carbing - I'm just not sure how to make it work better for a non egg eating vegetarian?! I have lost 38lbs since the end of January (a chunk in the first month then slowly after that) but I have a lot of weight to lose (several stone) so averaging 5/6 lbs per month isn't 'good enough'. I don't plan on ever going back to the way I used to eat (at home), but I would like to get to the maintenance stage where when eating out isn't a complete nightmare & friends aren't avoiding asking me over for dinner!! Where the odd panini for my lunch or vegetarian lasagne wouldn't be the end of the world.

It will be 6 months on Monday so I am being UBER UBER good until then, hoping to achieve a certain goal (that I had been on target for a month ago!! Grrr). Then I have a Big Goal that I would dearly love to achieve before August, though I am fast running out of time for that one :( It would have meant a lot to me to achieve it and it's frustrating that a whole month was 'wasted' when I was working hard at it... but anyway, the scales are going down, not up, right now - so I have to hold onto that (and my shorts which are falling down ).

I suspect I'm talking to myself now - but congrats to anyone who made it this far!! I was going to delete it all, but then thought, who knows, it might help someone else who is struggling??

May i suggest a belt for the short? nice to have you back.

Thank you and it's great to see you back Chipping, and you're not talking to yourself at all!

I know it's been a struggle for you as a veggie not eating eggs. Someone posted some vegan low carb blog links a while ago, were they any help? Do you eat plenty of nuts?

Hurrah! Very glad to see you back, ChippingIn!

I sympathise with you, and it must be very frustrating when you have a lot to lose and it feels like it's not working. But I have to take issue with you when you say:

but I have a lot of weight to lose (several stone) so averaging 5/6 lbs per month isn't 'good enough'.

It absolutely is good enough! Long-term, sustainable weight loss should be 1-2lbs a week, and this is what you are achieving. It's important, because this is about you finding a way of eating that will work for you in the long term, not just whilst you're dieting.

And the other thing to consider is the other health benefits of low carbing - as someone who is dealing with the whole diabetes thing, you must appreciate that. But it's not just diabetes, it's also hypertension, cancer and Alzheimer's that are associated with a higher carb way of eating.

How much exercise do you do? I can't remember, sorry!

Morning folks. I agree about the weight loss speed. Also I think it can take a while for weight loss to kick in, especially if your metabolism is a bit messed up by low fat or low cal diets, or thyroid or hormone issues or any other illness.

Weird enough, in my first year of LC this time around, I only lost 13lb the whole year. Then the 2nd year it went down like 55lb and I can't think what I did different! Now it's started going quite slow again, 2lb a month or so, but I think that could just be because I'm getting closer to my normal weight.

I think I'm an eggaholic... Couldn't sleep last night, so cooked some eggs. First thing this morning, cooked some eggs. Yum.
BTW Total lovers: try stirring in a bit of double cream; so good.

Erm, am I seeing BIWI's big stick back

Why so much coffee, NewStart?

I'm three weeks in. I started at 9 stone 5, went down to 9 stone within a few days. Now fluctuating between 9 and 9st2. Am getting so despondent and wondering now if its the right WOE for me. I desperately want to lose the last 10 lbs or so but have spent the last year doing a few pounds here and there up and down. 2 years ago I weighed 13 stone. I exercise regularly and don't eat like a pig.
It seems that the only way I can lose any more weight is by keeping my calories under 1000 a day and I just can't manage it. But I'm not happy with the way I am.
I carry all my weight in the middle with a terrible belly and am pretty much skinny everywhere else. If I had the money I would have a tummy tuck and get all the loose skin and fat taken away.
I'm sorry to be so negative. I used to hate my body, then after losing 4 stone was delighted. Now I'm unhappy again but clearly don't have the willpower to make the change. I have been sticking to this WOE with the exception of last weekend when I went away with DH (see previous post) and last night I have 4 glasses of white wine.
I need to be able to have a drink from time to time. I'm not sure I can do that on this WOE as I can't 'make it up'.
Sorry. Just dot know what to do next.
By the way I'm not talking about a bit of a mummy tummy. I was overweight my whole life and my tummy is dreadful.

MustTidy it can take up to 6 weeks to fully adapt to fat burning and this WOE is renowned for periods of no weight loss then a big drop on the scales. I think you may just need to give it more time.

not enough sleep, too much to do and some stupidly early starts to the day on days which also have late finished. there have been a few 20hr days. Plus i am dealing with a lot of red tape and i tend to find i am drinking another coffee simply to take a break. Not idea but nearly school holidays so hopefully it will get better. Although if you can find a nice way to say "i find you lack of targets for ds simply because he is one of a number of high achievers in the class serious cause for concern. And keep working to a high standard is vague, wishy washy and suggests perhaps you may not be stretching him/making him work enough" that would be good. I am at the point where i am understanding why a number of the high achievers are being pulled from the school and being sent private although this is currently not an option due to some of the red tape issues. Neither is moving house which is a pita as I want to changes areas. Ah well. 1 week time and ds will go on hols and I will have more time as won't have to keep on top of what he is currently disassembling. Boys are disgusting creatures.

Got a plan which is starting to be put into place and the 20hr days will stop at the end of the month before restarting in Sept so hoping to get a lot of stuff under control. between now and then so can work around it better. Working towards the caffine ditch. slowly. very very slowly. And i'd rather cheat with a cup of coffee then fall face first into sugar due to tiredness.

Must there is a known stop issue with weeks 3 and 4!!! if you get chance go read the op of wk three three of the last boot camp. Biwi warns of this!! Stick with it. it will work but you might not see much change this and next week. You can do this, it will work but you will need to be patient and you will feel better.

Chipping, very few people do or should lose more than 6 pounds a month whatever their starting weight.
Some vegans live entirely on raw whole food and seem to thrive. That might be worth a try.

Better healthy/diabetes tests is worth this way of eating even if you lose nothing so well done on that.
You talked about moving - I think a lot of people feel better and some lose weight when they move more, walk or cycle to work or school etc

Unless you are menopausals my be avoid tofu due to the soy in it? Not sure what is in quorn but I think it includes bits of egg.

I avoid dairy except a bit of butter and that is in part as I don't really like it anyway and it always feels a bit too processed for me. I fyou want to lose weight don't eat nuts.

I am not the best person to comment as I am the ultimate carnivore really.

I fyou want to lose weight don't eat nuts.

Sorry Xenia but that is not good advice at all. For a non egg eating veggie, I think that nuts would be a very valuable source of protein and nutrients.

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