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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

January 2024 Low Carb Bootcamp - this one's a dry one!

541 replies

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 23/12/2023 14:44

For one month only - 4 weeks of strict Bootcamp, which means no booze.

If you want to, you can do Bootcamp Light, but with the exception of no alcohol.

All welcome! But please, only sign up if you are prepared to do the whole thing without alcohol.

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Magnolia82 · 06/01/2024 11:32

I just wondered whether anyone here has any experience/advice when you don't have lots to lose and/or you are quite short?

I'm around 8 stone 4 (and I'm aware you might want to respond to me by saying I shouldn't be worrying/asking) but I am very short and know I feel and look best around 7 stone 10 (maybe even a bit less). However, I am just really struggling to lose any weight. I know we're early in this BC but I was also stuck before Christmas.

I definitely feel better in myself when eating LC but I'm trying to work out how I might need to tweak this to fit with me being short (and therefore my daily calorie requirements already being very low).

TheOnlyMrsW · 06/01/2024 11:41

@PurpleWhirple I've had the same thought about @Metabolicallycomplicated cooking for us!!!!
Poor DH is not a cook but has decided that he will cook for us every Friday evening, he made a real effort yesterday to find a recipe we'd like and also LC (marinated lamb steak with roast veg). I've been sick since about 4am and so far can't keep any fluid down either.......he is fine so he can't have poisoned us but he feels so bad!!! Also really achy and cold so must be a bug of some sort but it's a doozy!!! Having a good effect on the scales though 🤣.
So plan for today is out of the window and just trying to get some water to stay 🤞

cathyandclaire · 06/01/2024 11:48

@Magnolia82 I'm small, but not as small as you. 5 fr 3 and around 8'10 currently but feel better below 8'5. I do have to be careful with snacks and avoiding vast quantities of nuts and cream. I find if I go strictly low carb for a few days to get into keto and then stick to three meals a day I can lose weight, without counting calories. In general I've maintained with bootcamp lite- it's the carb creep and too much snacking without eating real meals that causes weight gain. A strict week or so a year has kept everything steady for ten years, although I'm doing a strict month this time!

Prinnny · 06/01/2024 12:01

Well I don’t normally eat breakfast as fast until 1pm but I’ve just had bacon, fried egg and two slices of keto bread with loads of lurpak on and it was amazing!

Im going to do some batch cooking later for work next week, going to make butter chicken and creamy garlic mushroom chicken. Might have steak for tea. Not missing the wine as of yet but tonight may be the test!

Leedsmum27 · 06/01/2024 12:36

I’m doing okay so far - did a strick Atkins version when I was 40 and lost 2 stone so I know low carb can work but now in my 50s really struggle to lose weight . I definitely feel better when in the zone … bread and sugar my weakness! Don’t miss alcohol thankfully.

Is there a limit to how much diary I should have ? Will this make a difference? Typically cream in coffee , full fat yogurt etc. Trying to replace the latter with eggs for breakfast. I don’t eat red meat so often having cheese as a protein. Will too much cheese slow things down?

Also - how important is all the water to success? I’m very happy with herbal teas but do struggle with the litres required. Are we allowed diet drinks or should I cut out completely?

Oh - and another shortie here .. 5’1” so every pound shows :(

Magnolia82 · 06/01/2024 12:39

@cathyandclaire Thank you for replying. Yes, I avoid nuts, cream, cheese, etc. If you have time, would you mind sharing what a typical day (or week) of meals looks like for you?

Saltysausage · 06/01/2024 12:43

I had lunch off eggs at 12 and soon after had an upset stomach, it doesn’t tend to happen with my second meal.
I’m wondering if it’s due to my lack of gallbladder. I feel like I need to try eating something plain and fat free to absorb the bile that’s been collecting over night. I need to find something low carb and fat free, any ideas?

BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 06/01/2024 14:12

Leedsmum27 · 06/01/2024 12:36

I’m doing okay so far - did a strick Atkins version when I was 40 and lost 2 stone so I know low carb can work but now in my 50s really struggle to lose weight . I definitely feel better when in the zone … bread and sugar my weakness! Don’t miss alcohol thankfully.

Is there a limit to how much diary I should have ? Will this make a difference? Typically cream in coffee , full fat yogurt etc. Trying to replace the latter with eggs for breakfast. I don’t eat red meat so often having cheese as a protein. Will too much cheese slow things down?

Also - how important is all the water to success? I’m very happy with herbal teas but do struggle with the litres required. Are we allowed diet drinks or should I cut out completely?

Oh - and another shortie here .. 5’1” so every pound shows :(

Only you will know if you need to limit dairy! If you're eating a lot of it, and not losing, then it's a sign that it could be impeding weight loss.

Yoghurt is better than other forms of dairy as the lactose element is lower.

Water is very important! This is from the FAQ thread:

14. Why is water so important?

When your body stores carbs, which is what is happening when we eat a high carbohydrate diet, it holds onto water. For every 1 gram of carbs you store, you’ll store an average of 4 grams of water. Once these carbs are removed from your diet, water will come along with it, so it’s important to maintain proper fluid levels when you’re low carbing. Dehydration can make you feel quite poorly, making you feel tired, as if you’re going down with something, and can lead to headaches.

15. Why you should drink more water when low carbing

Your body goes through major metabolic transitions as you become a fat burner. Here’s why adequate fluid levels are crucial:

  1. you need to replace lost water

As mentioned previously, your body stores water when carbohydrates are present. When carbs are eliminated, water is also flushed out.

2. it curbs cravings and regulates appetite
Often, when you experience hunger pangs or sugar cravings when you’re low carbing, it’s most likely because you’re dehydrated. Make it a habit to reach for a glass of water instead of a sugary treat when these cravings arise.

3. it puts less stress on your kidneys
Ketones are acidic and some of these ketone bodies are flushed out instead of used for fuel to ensure they don’t accumulate in the body. Drinking more water supports the kidneys’ role of filtering out any unnecessary toxins that may be lingering.

4. water helps fat metabolise faster
The process of beta oxidation (where fats are broken down) requires water molecules. Burning fat costs more water during the process compared to carbs which means more water consumption will help your body break fats down more effectively.

(adapted from //www.carbmanager.com)

Finally, one other benefit of keeping your water intake up is that it helps to prevent constipation!

16. What counts towards my water intake?

Ideally, just plain water! However, that can get boring quickly, and other fluids will clearly help to keep you hydrated, so you can include tea and coffee – just be aware that if you like milk in your tea and/or coffee, you can very quickly rack up a lot of carbs. So try, as far as possible, to drink them black. Remember there’s also caffeine in tea and coffee, so it is preferable to aim to get your water intake mainly from plain water.

If you find plain, cold water boring, try adding slices of lemon or lime, or cucumber – or even fruit like strawberries or raspberries (just don’t eat them!). Sparkling water adds texture which can make it more interesting, and there are lots of flavoured waters on the market too – just be careful to avoid those that contain sugar and sweeteners.

There are also many cold fruit infusions on the market now, as well as fruit and herb teas if you want something hot.

As well as cold water, try drinking it hot– it’s very soothing, and lovely with a slice of lemon and/or ginger.

17. How can I make sure I drink all the water I need?

If you have a lot of weight to lose, you’re going to need to drink a lot of water, and that can seem really daunting. But if you spread it through the day, it will be easier.

Some tips:

• drink a couple of glasses of water as soon as you wake up. Your body is most dehydrated after a full night’s rest, so drinking water as soon as you wake up is a great way to start your day hydrated.

• buy a new water bottle if you don't have one, or perhaps a nice glass. Figure out if you prefer large glasses or if that actually over-faces you. Perhaps a small one topped up by a bottle is better for you?

• if you’re sitting at a desk all day, make sure you always have a bottle of water on the desk

• try the elastic band trick – let’s say you have to drink 4 litres of water per day. Break that down into a smaller number of glasses, e.g. 8 x 500cl glasses. On your water bottle, put 8 elastic bands. Each time you finish a glass of water, take one of the elastic bands off.

• try using a hydration app – for example Waterlogged; you can photograph all your different bottles/mugs/glasses in regular use and add their sizes and log as you drink

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BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas · 06/01/2024 14:14

And also @Leedsmum27 - if you've read the rules, you'll realise that diet drinks are not encouraged on Bootcamp - especially in the first two weeks.

  1. They're artificial, and we're trying to eat foods that are as natural and unprocessed as possible
  2. There's some evidence that the body responds to artificial sweeteners as if they're sugar, and
  3. We're trying to break the hold that sweet things have over us - and as most fizzy drinks are sweet, this is another reason for trying to avoid them
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BIWI · 06/01/2024 14:22

@Magnolia82 The only point at which anyone would be advised not to worry about their weight, is if it looks like they are suffering from an eating disorder.

How tall are you? Have you looked at the range of weight indicated for your BMI? I know many people criticise the BMI for being a crude tool, but generally I think it can be quite helpful.

I'm 5ft 2in, so also a shortie - and the weight range it gives for me is 7 stone 4 pounds to 9 stone 10 pounds. So quite a lot to play with!

You know what works best for you, in terms of your appearance and how well clothes fit.

The closer you are to your desired (and achievable) target, it is the case that weight loss will slow down, and you will need to be careful about portion sizes. For example, think about a cooked breakfast. Do you routinely have 2 fried eggs and 2 (or more) rashers of bacon? Try cutting that down to 1 egg and 1 or only 2 rashers of bacon. Small changes like that can be very helpful.

You may particularly need to keep an eye on (possibly even start to count) your carbs. As @cathyandclaire says, it's very easy for carb creep to happen, so have a think about that.

Metabolicallycomplicated · 06/01/2024 15:46

Afternoon all, just checking in. We ended up ordering takeaway last night, I was feeling rubbish and DH was knackered so it made sense. I had a box of doner meat and salad, i ate about half of it and had the other half for lunch with whipped feta and taboule salad today which was epic. It could have been a lot worse!

Tonight is some form of minced beef situation with fried sprouts but I’m not sure what to do with it yet, probably some kind of cottage pie type thing.

Metabolicallycomplicated · 06/01/2024 15:49

PurpleWhirple · 05/01/2024 20:04

I think I'd quite like @Metabolicallycomplicated to cook all my meals, everything you've suggested sounds amazing

Dinner here tonight was chicken breast with chorizo and yellow peppers, accompanied with buttery cabbage. The others had a family favourite that's far too carby for bootcamp but I was quite happy with mine.

I’d actually love that, I’ve always loved to cook but DH has been a SAHP for 2 years so I never get the chance! He doesn’t eat low carb so I’m cooking for myself now and really enjoying my little self Grin

bluesupermoon · 06/01/2024 16:15

Finally got my scales to work and managed to add my weight to the spreadsheet. I didn't lose any weight on the pre-Xmas bootcamp and have been off the wagon for a few weeks so have put on a bit but am still under what I thought this time last year was a very aspirational target for the end of 2023. So grateful to have found low carbing, and thanks for all the support on these threads.

BIWI · 06/01/2024 16:26

You're very welcome!

SpinningTops · 06/01/2024 16:32

@Magnolia82 I'm also short at 5ft. Means that the extra pounds show. I used to be very happy and sailed through my early 20s at about 110lb. Then children happened and general poor eating and I'm now at 123.
It might not sound a lot and I don't think I look too bad but the bmi calculator puts me close to overweight. If I don't address it now I know it will continue to creep.
Ideally I'd like to get down to and stay at 115lb which I think should be achievable. It does feel like it can be slow going but I'm hoping if I stick to it and even if I only lose a couple of lb a month I should get there by April.
I have done intermittent fasting before so I think once I'm used to this way of eating and adapted I might try that if weight loss stalls.

Leedsmum27 · 06/01/2024 17:19

@BIWIshYouAMerryChristmas thanks so much for the links and your very sound advice.

going to use the elastic band idea to help with water consumption and will start to monitor the dairy . Mondays weigh in help …….I hope :) So much of this about building in new habits .

thanks 🤩

mimosa1 · 06/01/2024 17:34

Oooh that tea sounds lovely, thanks for the suggestion. I've ordered some.

Meals today were turkey meatballs in tomato sauce on kale / orzo for the rest of the family / scrap eggs and bacon wrap for dinner.

I have a bit of a headache so off to drink water as @biwi's réminder was v timely!

Metabolicallycomplicated · 06/01/2024 17:34

Saltysausage · 06/01/2024 12:43

I had lunch off eggs at 12 and soon after had an upset stomach, it doesn’t tend to happen with my second meal.
I’m wondering if it’s due to my lack of gallbladder. I feel like I need to try eating something plain and fat free to absorb the bile that’s been collecting over night. I need to find something low carb and fat free, any ideas?

I don’t have a gallbladder either, horrid question but is your poo yellow when you say you have an upset tummy? If so, then that’s always a sign for me that I need to have slightly less fat (NOT fat free) at the next meal. What works for me is full fat Greek yoghurt and berries.

When you say you had a lunch of eggs, do you mean you only ate eggs? If so, that’s far more likely to be the culprit, you’re better off eating a variety of foods at any one meal with gallbladder issues, so add spinach etc to your eggs for the fibre.

Metabolicallycomplicated · 06/01/2024 17:44

blackteaplease · 06/01/2024 10:14

Thanks for all the snack suggestions, you've saved my Saturday night. I'm off to buy kale and see if my local village co-op does any of the suggestions. I can't eat pork scratchings though, ate far too many of them when I first did bootcamp a few years ago and now I can't stomach them.

A brand called The Curators do puffed pork skin. I buy packets on Amazon and the cheese ones are EXACTLY like quavers.

Metabolicallycomplicated · 06/01/2024 17:59

I realise I didn’t thank everyone for your well wishes for my biopsy - thank you all so much. It went fine, I didn’t need anaesthetic in the end (vagina of steel Grin) so that was good as I could come home quickly. I’ll get the results in 6-8 weeks, in the meantime I have to continue with the meds I’m on (even though they are not stopping the bleeding).

Does anyone have any nice beef mince recipes?

CharlieHadAPigeon · 06/01/2024 18:19

I am unexpectedly staying somewhere remote without suitable food (long story - I should have been eating a healthy meal instead). The only low carb thing here was a pack of pork scratchings, which I’ve just eaten. The only other food is crisps, bread, cake, butter, chocolate and a pot of tuna and sweetcorn sandwich filling. I can’t leave the house (child asleep) and can’t order in (too remote). I’m hoping not to succumb to the temptation and just get through on water tonight, then have the tuna and sweetcorn for breakfast (not perfectly low carb but better than the other options). determined not to deviate ahead of Monday’s weigh in.

Nestnearlyempty · 06/01/2024 18:59

Today I’ve had:
B:FFGY and cream
L: Cheese in little gem
D: burger no bun with cheese. Salad.
snack: fresh beet, cucumber and carrot juice with ginger

Metabolicallycomplicated · 06/01/2024 19:48

I settled on green beans confit in butter with ragu for dinner, so todays food:

B: 16:8

L: left over doner kebab meat with taboule salad and whipped feta

D: Butter confit green beans with beef and chorizo ragu. There’s also a boat load of parmasan, pesto and garlic in the ragu, and instead of tinned tomatoes I vegged it up with frozen chargrilled veg from Morrisons. 5.5g carb per 100g for the veggies and they are an awesome freezer staple. Great in omelettes too.

Thesoundofmusic23 · 06/01/2024 20:31

Feeling much brighter today! Thanks for the feedback yesterday @BIWI this is my first time doing this.

today
b - ffgy and cinnamon
l - tricolour salad with lots of avocado and black olives
s - delicious roast chicken with cauliflower mash (so so yum!) and sprouts and kale.

Lots of water and herbal tea and am full and happy now.