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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Summer 23, Week 2: the first weigh in

211 replies

prettybird · 25/06/2023 23:53

Good Morning Campers Smile or it will be by the time most of you are reading this Wink

Here we are at Week 2 Smile. This is shaping up to be very supportive Boot Camp - everyone sharing their experiences, both the successes and the slip ups Flowers. You are all stars Star. I haven’t had to get the Big Stick out much as people have usually recognised what happened and worked out strategies for future challenges. Flowers

I’ll leave it to @FinallyHere to post the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness as people seem to have difficulties when I link from the App. HmmConfused

I’m expecting to see some great losses which is always really heartening Smile. It's always great seeing how newbies see that it really does work Smile

But don't despair if you haven't lost as much as others. Remember, this isn't a competition Shock. We're all here with different startpoints, and everyone loses at a different rate anyway. We all need to KOKO.

That’s also why we encourage taking measurements - usually if the scales aren’t moving, then the inches are! Grin downwards of course Wink

One more week of strict Boot Camp and then we can choose to go on to Boot Canp Light for those of us who want to Smile

The Rules are still the same: you can find them on the OP of the Week 1 thread and also in the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness.

(I’m now on Week 3 but I’ll avoid talking about any of my Boot Camp Light variations for the moment Wink)

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FinallyHere · 26/06/2023 10:56

@Andi2020 got your row sorted I think

@venusandmars totals highlighted in yellow neon at the top of the spreadsheet. Now I see the numbers, I'm not sure it's helpful and don't think dividing by the number of participants would be helpful in case it sets up comparisons.

It's all good 😁

FinallyHere · 26/06/2023 11:03

dropping from a Size 20 to a size 8

I'm happy to share that here, in the context of the magic of bootcamp.

In RL I have avoided any such mention. I have bought the exact same pair of jeans in ever smaller sizes to disguise as far as I can that I am shrinking.

If any one does mention it, I point out how grateful I was that they didn't mention it when I put the weight on and so would like to shrink back down again unnoticed, too.

Most understand.

MilsonandJim · 26/06/2023 11:40

I was so discouraged on Saturday that my original 3lb loss from the first half of the week had mostly disappeared that I have decided not to weigh again till next Saturday. So I won't update the sheet for me til then. It almost made me give up but of course I won't because I've got you all to keep me going!

Lucienandjean · 26/06/2023 12:10

Really good loss for me this week - 3lbs - although I'm very aware my weight goes up and down a lot! To lose 3lbs though must mean a genuine loss rather than just fluctuations.

I'm enjoying eating the right food again too.

NotDonna · 26/06/2023 12:10

@prettybird thank you for this. Is there a way to search a thread to avoid searching the 10 pages for @HedgehogHill‘s link in the last thread to a document in which she had put all the veggie recipes, making it easier to print off. Please?

prettybird · 26/06/2023 12:26

I'll try and find it again and post it on here. It's easier to search on a laptop - almost impossible on the app don't know about the mobile version

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prettybird · 26/06/2023 12:30

@MilsonandJim - I find that sudden upward fluctuations (more than the usual 1-2lb/day), in the absence of a known "falling off the wagon" is almost always down to a lack of water the day before Shock

It seems counter-intuitive but there is a logic to it Confused. If you're not having enough water for this WoE, then your body will hold on to extra water to cope Hmm

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MilsonandJim · 26/06/2023 12:35

Thanks @prettybird I thought I had drunk enough but actually I did a lot of walking on a hot day so probably should have had more anyway.

prettybird · 26/06/2023 13:06

For @NotDonna , here is the link to @HedgehogHill's Veggie Word document Smile Not sure if it's got my better Tzatziki recipe on it yet Wink

https://onedrive.live.com/edit.aspx?resid=FF0B5F09EC4DF41A!776&ithint=file%2cdocx&authkey=!AHi-zhUZAO-ut00

LCBC Veggie Recipes.docx - Microsoft Word Online

https://onedrive.live.com/edit.aspx?authkey=%21AHi-zhUZAO-ut00&ithint=file%2Cdocx&resid=FF0B5F09EC4DF41A%21776

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HappiDaze · 26/06/2023 13:08

I do have scales but the shock of seeing my weight especially as I'm the biggest I've ever been I know will make me fall off the wagon as it has in the past

I will to start off with just go by how my clothes fit. I do have jeans in all sizes, so I can use those maybe. I think I'll do the string measuring too.

My knee has given way and was excruciatingly painful on and off yesterday and a couple of times it just gave way so I had to just stop and sit for a while. It feels better today. I took ibuprofen last night to take down any possible swelling to prevent any further rubbing if that's where it's from.

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prettybird · 26/06/2023 13:21

I'm on a roll Grin

Here's the info about water and why it's so important, which is from the FAQ thread (here: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/low_carb_bootcamp/4049535-Low-Carb-Bootcamp-FAQs?reply=118903269:

14. Why is water so important?

When your body stores carbs, which is what is happening when we eat a high carbohydrate diet, it holds onto water. For every 1 gram of carbs you store, you’ll store an average of 4 grams of water. Once these carbs are removed from your diet, water will come along with it, so it’s important to maintain proper fluid levels when you’re low carbing. Dehydration can make you feel quite poorly, making you feel tired, as if you’re going down with something, and can lead to headaches.

15. Why you should drink more water when low carbing

Your body goes through major metabolic transitions as you become a fat burner. Here’s why adequate fluid levels are crucial:

1.you need to replace lost water

As mentioned previously, your body stores water when carbohydrates are present. When carbs are eliminated, water is also flushed out.

2. it curbs cravings and regulates appetite
Often, when you experience hunger pangs or sugar cravings when you’re low carbing, it’s most likely because you’re dehydrated. Make it a habit to reach for a glass of water instead of a sugary treat when these cravings arise.

3. it puts less stress on your kidneys
Ketones are acidic and some of these ketone bodies are flushed out instead of used for fuel to ensure they don’t accumulate in the body. Drinking more water supports the kidneys’ role of filtering out any unnecessary toxins that may be lingering.

4. water helps fat metabolise faster
The process of beta oxidation (where fats are broken down) requires water molecules. Burning fat costs more water during the process compared to carbs which means more water consumption will help your body break fats down more effectively.

(adapted from //www.carbmanager.com)

Finally, one other benefit of keeping your water intake up is that it helps to prevent constipation!

16. What counts towards my water intake?

Ideally, just plain water! However, that can get boring quickly, and other fluids will clearly help to keep you hydrated, so you can include tea and coffee – just be aware that if you like milk in your tea and/or coffee, you can very quickly rack up a lot of carbs. So try, as far as possible, to drink them black. Remember there’s also caffeine in tea and coffee, so it is preferable to aim to get your water intake mainly from plain water.

If you find plain, cold water boring, try adding slices of lemon or lime, or cucumber – or even fruit like strawberries or raspberries (just don’t eat them!). Sparkling water adds texture which can make it more interesting, and there are lots of flavoured waters on the market too – just be careful to avoid those that contain sugar and sweeteners.

There are also many cold fruit infusions on the market now, as well as fruit and herb teas if you want something hot.

As well as cold water, try drinking it hot– it’s very soothing, and lovely with a slice of lemon and/or ginger.

17. How can I make sure I drink all the water I need?

If you have a lot of weight to lose, you’re going to need to drink a lot of water, and that can seem really daunting. But if you spread it through the day, it will be easier.

Some tips:

• drink a couple of glasses of water as soon as you wake up. Your body is most dehydrated after a full night’s rest, so drinking water as soon as you wake up is a great way to start your day hydrated.

• buy a new water bottle if you don't have one, or perhaps a nice glass. Figure out if you prefer large glasses or if that actually over-faces you. Perhaps a small one topped up by a bottle is better for you?

• if you’re sitting at a desk all day, make sure you always have a bottle of water on the desk

• try the elastic band trick – let’s say you have to drink 4 litres of water per day. Break that down into a smaller number of glasses, e.g. 8 x 500cl glasses. On your water bottle, put 8 elastic bands. Each time you finish a glass of water, take one of the elastic bands off.

• try using a hydration app – for example Waterlogged; you can photograph all your different bottles/mugs/glasses in regular use and add their sizes and log as you drink

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mimosa1 · 26/06/2023 13:24

Weighing in at 79. Well done to all for getting through week 1.

HappiDaze · 26/06/2023 13:26

If you do add lemon or line to water you need to be aware that the acid in these can wear away the enamel in your teeth

HappiDaze · 26/06/2023 13:29

Also as an aside if you're away on holiday for instance and find yourself very ill and dehydrated you can create your own electrolyte by dissolving a teaspoon of salt and a teaspoon of sugar in a glass of water. This will rehydrate you.

prettybird · 26/06/2023 13:31

I only ever add the smallest of squooshes Wink (and only every 2nd pint) I think the reduction of fizzy drinks (even diet ones) is far more significant Grin That and getting over my addiction to freshly squeezed orange juice in the mornings Blush although I did know not to brush my teeth straight afterwards Wink

But there again, I have very strong teeth and my body seems to re-mineralise well (which is why I have daily disposable contact lenses as my contact lenses used to develop protein and calcium spots really quickly Hmm) Grin

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HappiDaze · 26/06/2023 13:32

The easiest way to tell if you're dehydrated is if your wee is dark and or smells and also if you pinch the skin on the back of your hand and it doesn't snap back immediately but stays up and pinched a bit then drink more water BrewSmile

HappiDaze · 26/06/2023 13:34

Re lemon water if you drink plain water straight after that rinses off the lemon you're all good Smile

Sorry for all my random tips BlushGrin

Random789 · 26/06/2023 14:45

I'm finding it easier to glug in the required amounts of water than i did on my previous bootcamp. Perhaps the hot weather has helped to make it feel more natural.
BTW, I've been repeatedly struck recently by the fact that, if you are outside and moving about ,you can sweat quite a lot without noticing it - because the sweat is doing its job by evaporating in order to cool you.
When I am on a run and stop to do stretches etc, I instantly start to get dripping wet all over <tmi> because becoming stationary inhibits evaporation. Similarly when I come inside after a run.
The reason I subject you to this disgusting info is as a reminder that the heat might require more additional water than you realise.

Random789 · 26/06/2023 14:53

It is really very helpful to learn from several of you that comments from random well-meaning people, even positive ones, about eating and weight loss, are often unhelpful and unwanted.

I've been guilty in the past of making such comments, just assuming they would be morale-boosing - generalising too readily from myself to others when everyone is different and faces different challenges.

I first realised that this was a dodgy generalisation on some other, non-Bootcamp MN threads. But it is instructive to be reminded of it here too.

I'm more like Bridget Jones - an absolute sucker for anyone saying 'Ooooh , haven't you lost weight' Grin

YappyCamper · 26/06/2023 16:39

OldandTired66 · 26/06/2023 10:18

Forgot today's plan. B: Boiled egg, L: chicken salad, Going to @venusandmars for dinner, that sounds incredible. Failing that, Salmon, creamy savoy cabbage and broccoli. Then up at 3am to take someone to the airport 😬.

I have this thought every single time @venusandmars posts her menu!

Baystard · 26/06/2023 17:33

Well done all the BC week 1 losers!

Skiphopbump · 26/06/2023 17:42

As much as I love bootcamp and want to be involved I’m going to have to drop out of this one. I’ve had multiple gallstone attacks since Friday and am in hospital as anything I eat sets one off.
Good luck to everyone and I hope to be back in the future!

Lucienandjean · 26/06/2023 18:21

Sorry to hear about your gallstones, @Skiphopbump! I had an infected gallbladder back in March, which was horrible. Fortunately (?) it was bad enough that I got an emergency gallbladder removal. You have my every sympathy!

But my recovery was smooth and I'm now back low-carbing. Has any suggested having your gallbladder out?

Stokey · 26/06/2023 18:38

Oh dear @Skiphopbump I hope you recover soon Flowers

@prettybird both things are post supper. First book club. I will take olives and not drink.

Then friends are DJing at a gin palace. Again maybe a gin & slimline. I think alcohol is my biggest challenge this week.