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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread

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prettybird · 10/06/2023 08:47

This is the prep thread for the new Boot Camp that will be starting on 19 June.

It will take me a few posts as I blatantly copy across from @BIWI ‘s excellent introductory posts and I’m doing this on the app which makes it more award.

First off the major caveat: I am not a doctor This Way of Eating works for me and has done for many others. I’ve followed BIWI on these Boot Camps for many years and there is a lot of support but if you have any medical issues, you need to make your own choices.

@FinallyHere - can you post a link to an old Spreadsheet of Fabulousness please Flowers. It will let people have a look at some of the resources on it. (It’s difficult for me to do it from my phone).

And so to the rules. These are the rules for the first two weeks. After that, we do relax things a little:

1. Eat three proper meals a day

You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

Experienced Boot Campers may follow intermittent fasting (IF) (16:8 or similar) and therefore not have say breakfast but if you’re new to this Way of Eating, wait until you’ve got used to it before starting on IF.

2. Avoid processed foods

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little).

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list, which you'll find on the spreadsheet.

Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.

This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight - Litres
140lbs - 2.5
160lbs - 3.0
180lbs - 3.0
200lbs - 3.5
220lbs - 3.5
240lbs - 4.0
260lbs - 4.5
280lbs - 4.5
300lbs - 5.0
320lbs - 5.5
340lbs - 5.5
360lbs - 6.0
380lbs - 6.5
400lbs - 6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

The water is really important - any time I’ve noticed myself stalling, I’ve noticed that my water consumption had dipped. I like to think of it as helping to pee the fat away Wink

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.

When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy. On the spreadsheet, you'll find a nut carb counter, which illustrates just how much they vary in terms of their carb counts.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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StuntNun · 13/06/2023 06:57

@YappyCamper this whey protein powder https://amzn.eu/d/gpJEhnOO* only contains whey protein from milk and soy lecithin as an emulsifier. You won't find any cleaner protein powder. I had a look in Sainsburys yesterday; they had a huge variety of protein powders and every single one contained sucralose or stevia, often alongside a whole lot of other ingredients.

prettybird · 13/06/2023 08:20

@ditavonteesed - it's not really rugby, it's just pre-season fitness. So lots of running, core work and body weight stuff (squats, press-ups and shoulder taps).

It was mostly AMRAP, which is a new term I've learnt (you probably know it already): As Many Rounds As Possible, so that catered for the fact that some most of us were faster than others me Smile I wasn't the slowest though Grin

I was pleased at how well I coped!

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OhWhatMerryHellIsThis · 13/06/2023 09:12

I'm not sure I have this preparation business right. I'm currently eating my way through the cupboards Grin

My youngest has just moved out, so it should be easier to manage when I'm only cooking for me, and it will also make me eat properly - I find when I'm on my own I just eat crap and don't bother cooking at all.

I've given myself until Friday to finish off all the rubbish food, at which stage I'm going to throw out everything that is left over and do a big bootcamp-friendly shop. I've also upped the water [slosh]

Thanks to all involved for setting this up.

prettybird · 13/06/2023 09:20

Don't beat yourself up @OhWhatMerryHellIsThis - for some of us, the preparation is indeed eating our way through the carby stuff in our cupboards Shock, aka emptying the cupboards of temptation Wink

As long as you are properly prepared for next week: menu planning really helps and making sure that you have plenty of low carb options and snacks available. Eggs are good, so is Greek yoghurt. Make sure to have a FLGV (Fuck Load of Green/Good Vegetables) in the house.

You can do this Grin

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FinallyHere · 13/06/2023 10:29

apologies @prettybird and all the lovely boot-campers, from the old hands to the first timers, cautiously dipping a toe in the low carb boot camp waters, and everyone in between.

The [[https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1Ct9YkP0GzU2O3sQymwOlTFM6JMjVuZcwPehzck3-w/edit?usp=sharing

It was so lovely to see this thread on Saturday and was delighted to add the link right away. When to check it myself today and Blush there was nothing to find

I'm not usually absolutely always this scatty, and always happy to help if anyone has any questions around the tech. Excited to have more people around to chat to about all things bootcamp related. I've said before on these threads that Bootcamp has been transformational for me. Its work well with other things that I do to give myself the best chance of good health as the years go by. Love love love the idea of self-care too: might finally (sic) inspire me to actually get on with #yogaeverydammday

January 2023 Bootcamp

Weigh-in sheet 141,Original Start Date,Original Weight (lbs),@,Starting Weight (lbs) ~ 9th Jan,Total Loss since original start,% loss since original start,16th Jan Week 2,Weekly Loss,Total Loss this Bootcamp,% loss this Bootcamp,Total Loss since origi...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1E1Ct9YkP0GzU2O3sQymwOlTFM6JMjVuZcwPehzck3-w/edit?usp=sharing

ditavonteesed · 13/06/2023 11:51

Just went to decathalon and they had tropical flavour zero tablets, tastes like lilt. Very happy with my find.

prettybird · 13/06/2023 12:28

Thank you @FinallyHere Flowers - although for some reason it's a very long link address Confused Caveat: I've not clicked on it as I'm on my phone, which doesn't like going to the Spreadsheet Hmm

I weighed in yesterday as I'm starting early (actually started on Saturday) at 12st 8lb ShockBlush It's going to be hard work to get to where I'd like to be by September Hmm - but I'm going to stay focussed Halo

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TheOnlyMrsW · 13/06/2023 13:46

I weighed this morning (just a lb more than you @prettybird) and although it's the same as before I went to Download which at least means I didn't gain it's still the heaviest I've ever been, including when I was 8 1/2 months pregnant with DD.
Trying to get into good habits in advance of next week so I've already had my 3l of water and discovered that asparagus doesn't go with blue cheese for lunch!!!!!
Working on a meal plan in advance of next week, DH is on board but DD is only interested in carby things, and the beiger the better.............

FinallyHere · 13/06/2023 17:44

Goodness, every day a school day

That link went somewhere I did not expect. It looks find in a browser, in the app.. not so much.

Please bear with me, lovely bootcampers. I'll do some research and have another go.

Let's pretend it's all part of the prep. 😄

prettybird · 13/06/2023 18:07

Painted toe nails Smile

That's part of this week's self care doneHalo

The heat has made me realise the benefit of losing some weight: it's too hot and sticky for me to cross my legs comfortably Blush Extra motivation Wink

Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread
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Baystard · 13/06/2023 20:07

Preparation is underway here. Tesco order came, a kilo of butter (no, really!), kilo of Greek yogurt, kilo of cheese. Plus clotted cream, nuts (for bootcamp light), and a FLGV. And not forgetting...the buttermint teabags!

Random789 · 13/06/2023 20:26

I've never really done 'preparation' in advance of a new eatingcommittment before, and I can see how helpful it will be. I haven't yet got to the stage of meal planning and shopping. But I think I am making some progress with psychological preparation.
For me (I think) the key might be to reach a point of reasonable self-contentment and self-care before Day One, so that I can start off feeling reasonably positive about myself - rather than starting from a point of absolute self-hatred and despair following a period of very bad eating.
So I am trying to eat moderately, mindfully and healthily, but without setting any demanding goals. I'm forgiving myself for eating some moderately carby foods that I won't be allowed to eat once the bootcamp starts. Eg, this evening a completely delicious alcohol-free beer which is surprisingly low in calories but has a hefty 10g of carbs per can Angry
I steeped a rhubarb stick and a handful of mint in some boiling water earlier which made quite a nice drink when cooled. Perhaps that can be my bootcamp tipple.

cheesenotoast · 13/06/2023 20:30

Big wake up call … I bought some shorts in M & S …. I can squeeze my fat body into them , but do the button up , oh no !
That might be my beginners photo to compare to in 8 weeks or so ( I’m going away at the end of August ) tomorrow my self care will be booking my pre holiday beauty salon and haircut appointments

making things worse , we’ve nearly finished a kitchen diner extension which has taken longer ( and cost more ) than expected and it’s been carbs every meal for about 6 weeks
looking forward to buttery scrambled eggs for breakfast soon

Baystard · 13/06/2023 20:31

I love rhubarb @Random789 so I love the idea of the rhubarb and mint tea, I'll try that out.

prettybird · 13/06/2023 21:22

@cheesenotoast - do you have access to a microwave? Shoogled veg are good on Boot Camp Smile

"Shoogled veg" are veg (like brussel sprouts, baby sweet corn, cauliflower florets, sliced cabbage of any type) put into a bowl with a slab of butter, cover with a plate, microwave for 2-3 minutes, shoogle the bowl with the plate on top (shoogle is a Scottish word for shake Grin). Microwave for another 2-3 minutes. Season.

We're a bit obsessed with shoogled veg (brussels in particular Wink) on Boot Camp Grin

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Gingerwarthog · 13/06/2023 21:40

Had a bowl of Rice Crispies and some strawberries while I still can....
offset with a salami salad and a yoghurt I hope....

prettybird · 13/06/2023 21:50

My supper tonight was a Greek salad minus the peppers with cold roast pork Halo

For lunch I had some cold shoogled baby sweet corn, some salami and slices of Emmental. A snack mid afternoon of Greek yoghurt, with cream and cinnamon.

Lots of water Smile

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cheesenotoast · 13/06/2023 21:53

@prettybird might give shoogled broccoli a go tomorrow, with some fried salmon ( has a hob now 👍)
thanks ( heads off to recipe thread )

prettybird · 13/06/2023 21:59

Not getting the Big Stick out because most of us except me have not yet started Grin

While/even if you're using up the carby supplies in the house, try to get into the habit of drinking all the water. It really does make a massive difference. Smile

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Backstreets · 14/06/2023 09:52

I've definitely not started, visiting Italian family this weekend so not getting away from carbs there (but they're going down to Italy for the summer next weekend, so them and their pasta will be far away from me).

I work with the public and I had to go give one of the more insufferable people that frequent us a talking to for anti social behavior, and he said something nonsensical about "my baby". I just went "yeah whatever" but I think maybe he was trying to insult me for being fat without saying it outright by implying I was pregnant.

I'm not sure why I'm telling you all this as I'm not actually bothered (he is mental) but it reminded me how far I've come. People assumed I was pregnant all the time a few years back - god people are rude - I'm short and apple shaped and all fat tends to go straight to the belly - but it hasn't happened once since I lost about 20 lbs on keto during the pandemic. Well, until today, and I really think he just wanted to make me angry because I asked him not to blare out music on our premises.

prettybird · 14/06/2023 10:29

How annoying @Backstreets - but it sounds like you have the measure of him Grin

I have a rule of never ever ever commenting on a pregnancy after once congratulating someone we hadn't seen in years (a friend of my uncle, who we were visiting), because she looked at least 6 months pregnant BlushBlushBlushBlushBlushBlushBlushBlush

I now wait until I've seen the scan I'm told by the mother or father to be themselves Grin

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Backstreets · 14/06/2023 12:52

Even if someone was crowning I think I'd lead with "any personal news then?"

prettybird · 14/06/2023 13:16

TMI alert Blush

In this hot weather, one of the things I'm looking forward to is being able to cross my legs without my sweaty thighs resisting and not have to worry about chub rub Blush

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prettybird · 14/06/2023 13:17

....forgot to state the obvious: "after achieving my objectives" Grin

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Okaygoahead · 14/06/2023 15:13

Backstreets · 14/06/2023 12:52

Even if someone was crowning I think I'd lead with "any personal news then?"

😂