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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread

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prettybird · 10/06/2023 08:47

This is the prep thread for the new Boot Camp that will be starting on 19 June.

It will take me a few posts as I blatantly copy across from @BIWI ‘s excellent introductory posts and I’m doing this on the app which makes it more award.

First off the major caveat: I am not a doctor This Way of Eating works for me and has done for many others. I’ve followed BIWI on these Boot Camps for many years and there is a lot of support but if you have any medical issues, you need to make your own choices.

@FinallyHere - can you post a link to an old Spreadsheet of Fabulousness please Flowers. It will let people have a look at some of the resources on it. (It’s difficult for me to do it from my phone).

And so to the rules. These are the rules for the first two weeks. After that, we do relax things a little:

1. Eat three proper meals a day

You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

Experienced Boot Campers may follow intermittent fasting (IF) (16:8 or similar) and therefore not have say breakfast but if you’re new to this Way of Eating, wait until you’ve got used to it before starting on IF.

2. Avoid processed foods

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little).

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list, which you'll find on the spreadsheet.

Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)

Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.

This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight - Litres
140lbs - 2.5
160lbs - 3.0
180lbs - 3.0
200lbs - 3.5
220lbs - 3.5
240lbs - 4.0
260lbs - 4.5
280lbs - 4.5
300lbs - 5.0
320lbs - 5.5
340lbs - 5.5
360lbs - 6.0
380lbs - 6.5
400lbs - 6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

The water is really important - any time I’ve noticed myself stalling, I’ve noticed that my water consumption had dipped. I like to think of it as helping to pee the fat away Wink

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds

Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs.

When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy. On the spreadsheet, you'll find a nut carb counter, which illustrates just how much they vary in terms of their carb counts.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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TheOnlyMrsW · 15/06/2023 20:56

Evening all, have been practising this week as much as I can (a g&t or chilled glass of wine in the evening outside is very tempting though!) and think I've pretty much settled on a meal-plan for at least the first few days. DH is going to be on board too for evenings - works out of the house so can take his carby pasta to work - and is pretty happy to have roast veg and something most days as long as the something is steak every now & then!!!! If it's not too much trouble could some more experienced bootcampers have a critique and make suggestions for tweaks?

My intention is to make a big omelette with mushrooms, spinach and peppers to have in chunks for breakfast with a dollop of smashed avocado and then when that has been eaten will move onto greek yoghurt.

Lunch will be mostly be a "picnic", I would normally skip if I'd eaten breakfast but will have cucumber, raw peppers and sliced meat/cheese a la Aldi as they're on offer at the moment.

Plan for evening meals so far is spiced roast salmon with roast veg - broccoli, cauliflower, courgette and tomatoes, pork loin steaks with roast veg, veggie curry with cauliflower rice, chicken baked in tomato sauce (already in the freezer from a glut I roasted off and blitzed) with salad leaves and then a Friday treat of either steak with roast veg or the newly-coined dauphinmouse if the temperature drops.

The teen is only at home on Wednesday and Thursday next week so they can have beige food on one day and spag bol from the freezer on the other!!!!

Thanks in advance if anyone got to the end of that!

TheOnlyMrsW · 15/06/2023 20:57

Photo of the Aldi meats/cheese on offer!!!

Summer 23 Boot Camp: the preparation thread
CrawlingFromShitshowToAfterglow · 15/06/2023 23:44

Thank you for the suggestions, everyone! I think I'll be okay with these ideas! @prettybird - no, I don't eat eggs in anything either.

RebeccaSharp · 16/06/2023 00:01

That's interesting about the HRT @prettybird - I have mild anxiety/ depression and my GP prescribed a low dose of citalopram, but I wonder if HRT would actually help more? I'm 47 now and have perimenopause symptoms as well as the anxiety. Am thinking now maybe they went with the citalopram because of my weight Blush

LadyBird1973 · 16/06/2023 07:20

@RebeccaSharp I'm in HRT even though I'm heavy. I didn't even realise I was anxious until I started taking it and the anxiety disappeared. I had loads of health niggles that went away with HRT (palpitations, vertigo, bloating, erratic periods).
The drs didn't connect those symptoms to perimenopause and kept offering separate treatments.

prettybird · 16/06/2023 08:34

The risks the gp went through with me were also related to my age (62 Shock). I'm hoping it will help with brain fog (losing words while I'm talking) and (TMI alert Blush) dh is looking forward to me regaining my libido BlushShockGrin Doctor said that that in particular could take 2-3 months to take effect - so just in time for our holiday Wink

Looking back to my mid 40s when I suffered from depression and unable to get motivated to work (knew what I needed to do, would just look at my computer screen and not be able to get started Sad), was on anti-depressants and even had some time off work for stress/depression (at 42 and 47). I wonder if I was peri-menopausal Hmm I had a lot going on in my life at the time - 2 MMCs and 2nd time, dealing with the effects of my mum's accident plus working for a bully - so I can understand why my GP went with the anti-depressants.

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Stokey · 16/06/2023 08:47

@LadyBird1973 I'm a similar age to you and had really bad vertigo and vestibular migraines a couple of years ago which I'm sure are linked to perimenopause.

I was trying to start bootcamp early but think the hot weather is making me want to drink wine so have failed this week.

I did discover these in Ocado which seem to be a good low-carb alternative to crisps... https://wearethecurators.com/collections/pork-puffs/products/cheese-pork-puffs-23g-x-20

They taste quite like quavers Blush

Cheese Pork Puffs 23g – The Curators

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https://wearethecurators.com/collections/pork-puffs/products/cheese-pork-puffs-23g-x-20

prettybird · 16/06/2023 09:17

@Stokey - don't worry, as long as you are mentally prepared to start on Monday Smile

I love pork puffs: my favourites are Golden Crunch, but they seem to be difficult to find. I don't like the Curators salt and vinegar ones (too strong Hmm) but I'll look out for the cheese ones.

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LadyBird1973 · 16/06/2023 09:31

I'd forgotten that pork puffs existed - Waitrose does something similar I think, if you wanted to just get a bag or two at a time.

prettybird · 16/06/2023 09:37

Pork puffs are brilliant for when you're wanting something with a bit of a crunch - but without the risk of breaking your teeth Grin

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BIWI · 16/06/2023 10:00

@TheOnlyMrsW your food sounds lovely - but just make sure you're adding plenty of fat. All your protein choices are fairly lean, so make sure you're using, e.g., plenty of olive oil when roasting your veg, or you're adding butter to veg. Salads should have oily dressings, and add a dollop of mayonnaise to stuff. (Just be careful which brand, as the carb counts do vary - unless you make your own, of course!)

EvenmoreDisorganised · 16/06/2023 10:05

Just checking in, haven't RTFT yet but will catch up.

Bread is one of my biggest issues too, DH and DD don't eat much of it so I just buy the half baked rolls for them but DS is home from uni now and is working full time outdoors and needing sandwiches and snacks so normal bread is back in the house which is tempting for me.

My other issue is getting enough fat, I make my own mayo and use that on salads or eg tuna mayo but I cannot bear oily or buttery veg, I'm a lightly steamed sort of person as they get too sweet when roasted. I usually end up eating too much processed meat as well (bacon and ham) so need to watch those.

Porridgeislife · 16/06/2023 10:18

We are on holiday this week and only get home at 10pm on Sunday night so cutting it fine! Got a supermarket delivery coming on Monday at 7am to help me out.

So far I’ve planned my usual eggs plus sautéed vegetables or smoked salmon for breakfast and dinners will be mostly salads (lemon chicken, tuna, etc), plus I’ve planned for baked creamy paprika chicken as well. Monday night is Nando’s as we have house guests so will go for thighs and a side salad. Thankfully my husband likes a big salad and isn’t bothered by carbs as he grew up with a mother who is militant about “no white at night”.

I’m at the very tail end of breastfeeding so really looking forward to losing the rest of my pregnancy weight, I’ve found it so much hotter this year being a stone fatter.

Porridgeislife · 16/06/2023 10:20

We’re also lucky to have a fantastic salad bar at the office and I can get poached eggs, tomatoes, mushrooms etc for breakfast so it should be easy to stick to on office days as well.

prettybird · 16/06/2023 10:22

If you're not keen on butter, try and concentrate on fatty meats. Make sure to eat the chicken skin. Have some puffed pork crunch Wink. Make Greek salad with a generous slosh of olive oil.

Could you try to get used to butter on veg? It's such an easy way to up your fat. Have you tried shoogled baby sweet corn?

Alternatively but no good in this hot weather Hmm, you could make celeriac or neep (swede) dauphinois with plenty of cream.

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prettybird · 16/06/2023 10:23

...that was in answer to @EvenmoreDisorganised

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EvenmoreDisorganised · 16/06/2023 10:36

I love chicken skin and will eat pork crackling (although I no longer like pork scratchings as I have eaten them just too often when low carbing in the past) but really have tried and cannot bear buttery or oily veg. I also hate them creamed, potatoes dauphinoise is one of my least favourite foods in the whole world. The one exception is cauliflower cheese which I can make with cream instead of a roux sauce. To be honest at this time of year salads are more tempting anyway, I like vinaigrette so there is that as an alternative to mayo.

Donteventhinkofcallingmecis · 16/06/2023 10:58

@EvenmoreDisorganised - I am so with you on the bread. I can just about cope when I'm home alone, but when the kids are around and want bagels/pitta/sourdough on tap I find it really hard to resist. I keep trying to only leave a few bits out and freeze the rest, but they get annoyed with me....

Donteventhinkofcallingmecis · 16/06/2023 11:01

Apologies if this is a silly Q/has been answered elsewhere - but while I get the 'fat is good' theory - I struggle to see how butter, cream and fatty red meat can be healthy (in terms of cholesterol, heart etc.). Is it better to try to add 'healthy' fats like olive oil - or is what we've been told to date about other fats just plain wrong?

prettybird · 16/06/2023 11:33

@Donteventhinkofcallingmecis - as I understand it (and I'm not good at explaining it - @StuntNun is), it's the interaction between carbs and fats that are the problem.

Many of us who've followed this WoE have found that their cholesterol levels have improved (more specifically, the relationship between "good" cholesterol and "bad" cholesterol).

Look at how eggs have changed from being the devil incarnate Confused

We do discourage "processed" fats - so refined vegetable oils (virgin versions re ok) and polyunsaturated (ie ultra processed) marg Shock But yes, it is counterintuitive.

If one wants to be conspiracy theorist (or rather, the power of big business lobbyist Hmm), then there is the coincidence that iirc the initial assessment risk of cardiac disease from natural "high fat" products (dairy, meat) came at the same time as the growth of the use of canola oil. And the obesity crisis coincided with the increase of "low fat products" pull of fillers - and the need for sugar to give flavour.

There are better resources that explain it better than me on the spreadsheet - but I'm on my phone so can't access them.

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LadyBird1973 · 16/06/2023 11:47

My dad had heart surgery and his surgeon explained it as people thinking fat is the cause of clogged arteries because this is what was seen in post mortem examination. But really fat is designed to pass through arteries but sugar causes the inside walls to become rough and then the fat sticks to the walls and clogging occurs. It was a mistake to think fat was the cause of death, rather than excess sugar.

I would think that people who have damaged arteries should be careful with fat because of their existing damage, rather than fat itself being unhealthy.

ListenLinda · 16/06/2023 12:03

Got my shopping list ready to go this weekend, with the 10% greek yog and butter at the top of the list.

looking forward to reading about everyones meals, it does give me inspiration! In advance of this, does anyone have a good home made salad dressing recipe they can share?

StuntNun · 16/06/2023 12:15

@Donteventhinkofcallingmecis probably just about everything you "know" about healthy living is a lie.

"Eat less, move more" to lose weight - doesn't work and there are studies proving it.
Eat "five fruit and veg a day" - an entirely made up marketing slogan, as is "Drink a pint of milk a day" and "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day."
Eat butter was on the front page of Time magazine as long ago as 2014.
Saturated fats not only aren't unhealthy but don't actually exist on their own in nature. Even pork, sometimes to be considered the unhealthiest meat because of its saturated fat content, contains more "heart healthy" monounsaturated fat than "unhealthy" saturated fat. Our own bodies will turn glucose and fructose into saturated fat to store it. Why would we do that if it was unhealthy?
Polyunsaturated fats are inflammatory and cause a host of health conditions yet we continue to be told they are heart healthy.
Salt isn't actually that bad for you.
Eggs aren't bad because they contain cholesterol. We need cholesterol in our diet to make hormones. Eggs contain every essential amino acid (the ones we can't make ourselves so have to consume in our diet.)

Here's what's true:
Monounsaturated fats such as olive oil are good for you.
Fish, specifically oily fish such as tuna and salmon, are really good for you.

prettybird · 16/06/2023 12:34

Thank you @StuntNun - said so much h more coherently than me Grin

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prettybird · 16/06/2023 12:59

Re the "eat less, move more" trope advice, the moving more is still good for other reasons, just not for losing weight Confused

So, for example, rugby pre-season training has just started, so I'm going along because I want to be fitter and more toned - not because I think it will help me lose weight.

I'm sort of enjoying the stiff arm, bum and ab muscles, as I like to think hope that means that they're starting the long process of firming up! Grin

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