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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Is anybody interested in a January Low Carb Bootcamp?

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BIWI · 29/12/2021 17:32

The last one was pretty quiet, so I'm trying to gauge how many would be interested in a January one - probably starting around the middle of the month.

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LoveaStatementNap · 03/01/2022 09:58

Yes please. I’ve started back on low carb (I do ketovore, really) almost a week ago. I feel better already but I have a lot of weight to lose after having lost it once already (stupid!) so I’m here for the duration.

Pleaseandthankyou · 03/01/2022 10:48

Thanks for running this again @biwi. I wonder how many pounds you have been responsible for boot campers losing. I’m going to start a week early as I should be home alone and it should be easier.

BIWI · 03/01/2022 11:33

@EachandEveryone

Yes please i need to get going this year. Im abit worried about my cholesterol though as its already quite high.
@EachandEveryone

There's a really interesting piece about cholesterol on the Diet Doctor website

Zoe Harcombe also writes a lot about cholesterol as does Dr Malcolm Kendrick - both positing that it is vilified unnecessarily.

This is a short extract from one of Zoe Harcombe's posts:

The cholesterol hypothesis originated in the early years of the twentieth century. While performing autopsies, Russian pathologists noticed build-up in the arteries of deceased people. The build-up contained cholesterol. They hypothesised that the cholesterol had caused the build-up and blocked the artery leading to a sudden death (the term “heart attacks” was not much used before the end of World War II).

An alternative hypothesis would be that cholesterol is a substance made by the body for the repair and health of every cell and thus something else had damaged the artery wall and cholesterol had gone to repair that damage. This is the hypothesis that has the memorable analogy – fire fighters are always found at the scene of a fire. They didn’t cause the fire – they went there to fix it. Ditto with cholesterol. The alternative hypothesis did not occur to the pathologists by all accounts

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Pleaseandthankyou · 03/01/2022 12:17

Thanks for running this @biwi. I am going to start a week early as I should be home alone and in control. I wonder how many pounds you have been responsible for us losing on all the bootcamps.

BIWI · 03/01/2022 12:18
Grin
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anewdispensation · 03/01/2022 13:01

Yes please!

Runninghorse · 03/01/2022 13:04

Yes please -slightly late to the party. Does anyone follow a particular diet? I wonder if the diet plan on Diabetes UK was worth the money (I am not diabetic - yet)
www.lowcarbprogram.com/new-member-offer?utm_source=dt&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=dt1

Runninghorse · 03/01/2022 13:07

Just read the thread properly and see it starts 17th Jan

BIWI · 03/01/2022 13:17

Yes @Runninghorse, Bootcamp is a specific plan!

Here are the rules:

1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink.
This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/:

Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it.

Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs. When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy.

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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BIWI · 03/01/2022 13:18

And even better, @Runninghorse, it's totally free! Although if anyone would like to pay me for it, I'll happily take your money

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BIWI · 03/01/2022 13:19

... as a reminder, these are the foods that you will not be eating at all during the whole of Bootcamp:

  • bread (of any description)
  • pasta/noodles
  • rice
  • potatoes/sweet potatoes/sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with or thickened with flour
  • cakes/biscuits/pastries
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks and squash
  • sugar, in any form (which includes honey/agave syrup/fruit sugar)
  • balsamic vinegar (because unlike other vinegars, this contains sugar)
  • grains/pulses/legumes (including peas)
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Runninghorse · 03/01/2022 13:27

@BIWI Thank you that is so helpful!

RagzReturnedUnwrapped · 03/01/2022 13:33

I would like to sidle sheepishly back in, please, BIWI. I have done previous bootcamps going back many years. Lost 50lbs in 2016/17 but unfortunately I did not stay on it and am now even heavier. Working full time and feeding fussy kids did not help! But I have accepted that this is the only WOE I have ever stuck to for more than a few months and the food is SO good! I dropped out early last year after a gallbladder scare, but it turned out to be an infection and doesn't seem to have come back, so should be safe.

My hypothyroid seems better when I low carb, it has been bad recently with symptoms returning so hopefully this will be helpful for that too.

Many thanks to BIWI for the support and direction (and big stick), as always.

prettybird · 03/01/2022 13:42

@BIWI

And even better, *@Runninghorse*, it's totally free! Although if anyone would like to pay me for it, I'll happily take your money

Your "followers" on R;d;it are convinced that you are exploiting us for money WinkConfused

Just been listening to MM on the Jeremy Vine show talking about his new book and diet plan. He did mention the role of grehlin in addressing hunger pangs Smile - but he also talked about needing to get ketostix in order to ensure that you are properly in kerosine.

I think that the simplicity of the Boot Camp approach is more sustainable long term. Grin

BIWI · 03/01/2022 14:03

Are they still on about that @prettybird?!

I had to pretty much doxx myself there to make it clear I wasn't making money out of it Grin

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Runninghorse · 03/01/2022 14:41

My hypothyroid seems better when I low carb, it has been bad recently with symptoms returning so hopefully this will be helpful for that too

@RagzReturnedUnwrapped did you manage to lose weight with an under active thyroid? My weight has ballooned in the years since my diagnosis (not helped by the large quantity of wine I have been consuming)

MushroomHunter · 03/01/2022 15:32

I look forward to getting started! Any particular reason we don’t start earlier or I did I miss that?

This week my focus is just to back to the basics of my water intake and keep up with at least 2ltrs a day.

prettybird · 03/01/2022 17:11

@BIWI - no idea, I just remember you describing having the run in with them and the impossible task difficulty you had in convincing them that you weren't somehow making money out of us gullible fools ! Confused

CoffeeChocolateWine · 03/01/2022 17:20

@BIWI, can we eat nut butters or does that fall under ‘nuts’ and therefore not allowed? And presumably almond flour (ground almonds) is also not allowed?

BIWI · 03/01/2022 17:49

Yep - afraid they're out for the first two weeks @CoffeeChocolateWine

@MushroomHunter we're starting on 17 January because that gives me enough time to let people know about it, and for them (and me) to prepare for it. Planning is really important - psychologically as well as practically.

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prettybird · 03/01/2022 18:27

@MushroomHunter - some of us especially the Scots are starting early on 10 January so we can drink on Burns Night Grin

MushroomHunter · 03/01/2022 19:42

@BIWI ah I see thanks!! I plan on doing 16 weeks (that’s roughly how long it took the last time)

@prettybird ohh interesting! Well I am Irish so maybe I should consider an earlier start too. Grin

Davina69 · 03/01/2022 19:59

I'm going to join in too although I have zero willpower and usually fall off the wagon once the stress of real life kicks in !

RagzReturnedUnwrapped · 03/01/2022 20:02

@Runninghorse

My hypothyroid seems better when I low carb, it has been bad recently with symptoms returning so hopefully this will be helpful for that too

@RagzReturnedUnwrapped did you manage to lose weight with an under active thyroid? My weight has ballooned in the years since my diagnosis (not helped by the large quantity of wine I have been consuming)

Yes, when my medication is right I lose weight fine. If I'm actually trying. If I'm not, I use it as an excuse Blush

Last 4 months I was tired all the time, cold, weight piled on (constantly tired made me hungry!), no sex drive - all the symptoms but blood test showed TSH still in normal range and barely changed from the last time. Very slight increase in dose has made massive difference, whatever my GP says (need repeat bloods to make sure it hasn't gone too far the other way). I do wonder if my symptoms came back because my weight had gone up so much in the last few years that the medication wasn't enough, maybe I will need to decrease it when I've lost it all again.
GP should treat based on symptoms as well as bloods, but most really seem to prefer numbers to symptoms!

MsAwesomeDragon · 03/01/2022 20:03

I'd love to join. I've done it before and had a lot of success, but I have always fallen back into my bad habits again Blush. As a result, I'm exactly the same weight now as I was this time last year.

But just like last year, I really need to get a grip on my blood sugar. I'm being threatened with needing to go onto insulin if my sugars haven't gone down by my next blood test in May.

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