Is anybody interested in a January Low Carb Bootcamp?

[BIWI]

The last one was pretty quiet, so I'm trying to gauge how many would be interested in a January one - probably starting around the middle of the month.

I'm in!!!

I'd like to join in too.
I don't really need to lose weight but I like the idea of eating more healthily and hopefully not feeling so bloated a lot of the time.

I have a couple of questions. As someone who hasn't eaten breakfast for about 10 years now (I'm a bit of a 16:8er) what is the rationale behind insisting on three meals for the first two weeks? Could I shift it to lunch, early tea and early supper?!
Is fizzy water OK for the first two weeks or is anything carbonated frowned on?

If you're already used to intermittent fasting/16:8, then there's no need to re-introduce breakfast @oviraptor21

The reason for it in the first two weeks is to ensure that Bootcampers don't get hungry, and so reach for carby snacks.

And fizzy water is perfectly fine and very allowable!

Oh yes, I’m definitely in! How many weeks does it run for, is it 8? Thanks @BIWI

Yes it's 8 weeks this time

Yes please - how do I join ?

@Rach2u52 - @BIWI will be posting up a sign up thread a week or so. Put your name down on that if you want to be on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness. Other than that you just need to keep out for the preparation and Week 1 threads (which will no doubt be linked to from here) and follow them.

You'll find that there is loads of support both from newbies and old hands as we share our experience

Bootcamp sign-up thread is here

Are flavoured sparkling water/sugar free squash allowed? (not sure whether these would be classed as artificial sweeteners?!)
Would green/herbal teas count towards water intake?
I also drink clear whey protein which is 6g of carbs per 100g - would this be allowed - or too high?
I really want to try this but - as you may have guessed - struggle with drinking plain water!

Just signed up as been told I am prediabetic and currently reducing my carbs but in massive need of a kick up the arse. Also loads of weight to lose, obvs.

Yes please. I absolutely need this. I lost three stone with low carb and kept it off for years. Bereavement and lockdown have put me back where I started and it needs to go again. This thread’s the answer to a prayer!

@TaffyandTeenyTaffy

Are flavoured sparkling water/sugar free squash allowed? (not sure whether these would be classed as artificial sweeteners?!) Would green/herbal teas count towards water intake? I also drink clear whey protein which is 6g of carbs per 100g - would this be allowed - or too high? I really want to try this but - as you may have guessed - struggle with drinking plain water!

Someone on one of the last BCs said to put a fruit/herbal tea bag in a bottle of fizzy water. I did, very good, no carbs!

@TaffyandTeenyTaffy

Are flavoured sparkling water/sugar free squash allowed? (not sure whether these would be classed as artificial sweeteners?!) Would green/herbal teas count towards water intake? I also drink clear whey protein which is 6g of carbs per 100g - would this be allowed - or too high? I really want to try this but - as you may have guessed - struggle with drinking plain water!

@TaffyandTeenyTaffy

Anything that has artificial sweeteners in it isn't allowed in the first two weeks, I'm afraid.

Sugar free squash is definitely not allowed - but some flavoured sparkling waters seem to manage to be flavoured without sweeteners, so best check the labels.

Green or herbal teas do count, but plain water is a preference really.

Whey protein drinks are definitely out. That's an awful lot of carbohydrate - you should be getting your carbs mainly from vegetables and salad.

If you find plain water a problem, try adding slices or lime or lemon or cucumber to ordinary water. Or try drinking hot water with a slice of lemon. It's a lovely drink - much better than it sounds!

Hi I had to stop the last one due to health, I am okay now to start mid Jan

Looking forward to being back on bootcamp with you all.
(I'm an old-timer)

It is still Christmas here (though never winter - it seems) as Covid delayed family plans.

We can do this!

I'd love to do this but not sure what it entails? Could you let me know where can find a clarification? Would I have to publish my weight each week for example?
Thank you

@dogmandu : sign up thread here plus a link to a thread that should answer some of your questions

The next Low Carb Bootcamp starts on 17 January http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4444276-The-next-Low-Carb-Bootcamp-starts-on-17-January

thank you prettybird

Great for Jan 17, I'll pencil it in my diary.

I so need a kick up the arse to do this!

how does eating a lot of fat work if you are taking tablets for high
cholesterol? At one time a few years ago I had a kidney stone. Will a high fat diet be bad for me? Any answers appreciated.

Firstly, @dogmandu, eating fat won't make you fat. And second, low carbing should help bring your cholesterol back to normal. But when you say you have high cholesterol, what do you mean? What have you been told by your doctor? And is it 'normal' or is it Familial Hypercholesterolaemia (which is a genetic condition?)

@StuntNun is much better placed to help here, as she is much better versed in the science than me.

Whatever, though, I would definitely consult your GP before you start, as it is likely to lead to having your medication (at least your dosage) reviewed. (Although be prepared for your GP to know very little about low carbing! That's changing, but very slowly)

BIWI thank you for your answer. Yes Dr found I have high cholesterol many years ago and I've had tablets for it for some years. I think it's partly familial.
I'm looking forward to joining this group. I love veggies but need to be careful on the root ones.

But @dogmandu when you say 'high' what do you mean? Has the doctor given you a breakdown of the figures, or just one number? Are you taking statins?

The reason I'm asking about the cholesterol is two-fold @dogmandu

First, not all doctors and/or scientists believe that low cholesterol is the problem it's made out to be.

Here's a piece from Zoe Harcombe:

The cholesterol hypothesis originated in the early years of the twentieth century. While performing autopsies, Russian pathologists noticed build-up in the arteries of deceased people. The build-up contained cholesterol. They hypothesised that the cholesterol had caused the build-up and blocked the artery leading to a sudden death (the term “heart attacks” was not much used before the end of World War II)

An alternative hypothesis would be that cholesterol is a substance made by the body for the repair and health of every cell and thus something else had damaged the artery wall and cholesterol had gone to repair that damage. This is the hypothesis that has the memorable analogy – fire fighters are always found at the scene of a fire. They didn’t cause the fire – they went there to fix it. Ditto with cholesterol. The alternative hypothesis did not occur to the pathologists by all accounts

And second, because statins are one of, if not the most, profitable drugs in the world - estimated to be valued at US$ 14.1 Bn in 2020 and is expected to reach US$ 17.34 Bn by 2027 (by this website

While I'm in no way suggesting that you should stop taking prescribed medication - as I am not a medic - it's worth questioning the need for such drugs, especially if diet can help reach healthy levels.

BIWI I'll come back with the answers I have in a hour or two. Just have to get GC lunch and I want to give you the info I have. Thanks!