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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

2021 Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp

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BIWI · 17/10/2021 21:46

Welcome to the last Bootcamp of 2021!

This Bootcamp will last for 8 weeks, which will take us up to Monday 13 December.

It's slightly different from other Bootcamps - firstly because it only lasts for 8 weeks (rather than 10), but also because there are going to be different stages.

So ...

Weeks 1 and 2 will be, as ever, strict Bootcamp.

Weeks 3-6 will be strict Bootcamp during the week, but relaxing into Bootcamp Light at weekends

In weeks 7-8 you will have a choice - either back to strict Bootcamp or full-on Bootcamp Light for the last fortnight

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BIWI · 18/10/2021 08:20

There's a really interesting piece about hormones and their impact on weight here

(I found that I had to keep refreshing the link to download all the content, but it's worth a read)

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BIWI · 18/10/2021 08:21

The Diet Doctor is a really good site, with lots of information about low carbing (and keto) as well as recipes.

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BIWI · 18/10/2021 08:23

Here's a very simple explanation about low carbing from The Diet Doctor:

A low-carb diet means that you eat fewer carbohydrates and a higher proportion of protein and fat. This can also be called a keto diet

However, not all low-carb diets result in ketosis

For decades we’ve been told that fat is detrimental to our health. Meanwhile, low-fat “diet” products, often full of sugar, flooded supermarket shelves. This coincided with the beginning of the obesity epidemic and, in hindsight, was likely a major mistake. While the proliferation of low-fat products doesn’t prove causation, it’s clear the low-fat message didn’t prevent the increase in obesity, and we believe that it has contributed

Studies now show that there’s little reason to fear natural fats

Instead, on a low-carb diet you don’t have to fear fat. Simply minimize your intake of sugar and starches, make sure you are getting adequate protein — or even high amounts of protein — and you can eat enough natural fat to enjoy your meals

When you avoid sugar and starches, your blood sugar tends to stabilize, and the levels of the fat-storing hormone insulin drop, which may make it easier to burn fat stores in the body

In addition, the higher protein intake and presence of ketones (if eating very low carb) may make you feel more satiated, thereby naturally reducing food intake and promoting weight loss

Studies show that a low-carb diet can make it easier to lose weight and to control your blood sugar, among other benefits

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Jollyholibobs · 18/10/2021 08:26

Morning everyone and thanks @BIWI and @ouchmyfeet.

Lovely to see new people and old timers all fired up and ready to go.

Good luck everyone.

BIWI · 18/10/2021 08:36

For those of you who are new to low carbing, don't be afraid to ask any questions that you have about it. There are many of us here who are seasoned 'old timers' but don't let that put you off!

There's no such thing as a stupid question - and I can guarantee that even if you think your question might be, plenty of others will also want to know the answer to that question!

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JumperandJacket · 18/10/2021 08:38

Hello- I have a question. Can I count tea (black with almond milk or herbal) towards my water or does it have to be pure water?

Giving up Diet Coke is one of the things I think I’m going to find hardest.

prettybird · 18/10/2021 08:42

Signing in at 12st 9.5b Blush

Fell off the wagon big time in the last couple of months and have put on 1.5st ShockSad

I could blame the fact that the scales had been in desperate need of a new battery, which Dh has finally sorted, but I'd be deluding myself Blush

Anyway, here's to getting focussed and KOKO on the right WoE Smile

Missmaryjane · 18/10/2021 08:45

Happy Monday everyone, looking forward to embracing this way of eating again. I did keto a few years ago on the advice of a psychologist and it massively helped my mental health although was too extreme for me to keep up long term so I am hoping this will suit me better.

I am new on here but have been reading up on the threads over the last few weeks to get myself motivated. Thank you @BIWI & @ouchmyfeet for this - the resources are so helpful :-)

I've weighed in at 190lb today and have the following menu planned -

Scrambled eggs and mushrooms
Prawn & avo Salad
Roast chicken, pigs in blankets, cauliflower cheese and FLGV.

Wishing everyone good luck!

BIWI · 18/10/2021 08:45

@JumperandJacket yes you can - but ideally as much of your intake as possible should just be pure water.

Giving up Diet Coke might be hard, but it's a really good idea!

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BIWI · 18/10/2021 08:48

Although it's not an 'official' part of Bootcamp, many people also incorporate fasting into a low carb WOE.

@StuntNun is the expert here - it's not something I know too much about - and she started a thread about it a while back, which might be helpful:

here

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poorbuthappy · 18/10/2021 08:49

Morning All!
Am so ready for this today.
Did a @ShagMeRiggins and had an accidental last hurrah too!
Also upset my stomach horribly so I think the low carbiness is far more ingrained in my system than I think.
I am also away for half term next week but am going to bloody stick with it.
Loving the support already.

Luckydog7 · 18/10/2021 08:52

Horay! I started 3 days ago so through the worst of the keto headaches already. Been dropping in and out of low carb since last boot camp but I usually find the pre Christmas one the most effective cos of the hard deadline.

Also have a big wedding to attend and a slinky dress to fit into. Probably 2.5 stone to lose to fit into it

Thanks biwi!

fluoropostit · 18/10/2021 08:58

Signing in! Lost the lockdown weight of 10lbs earlier in the year, now need to lose the stickiest of sticky baby weight of 11lbs (um baby is almost 6 Confused)

Water, black coffee, chicken liver pate and celery for lunch, egg Mayo for brekkie, not a big snacker but either sliced roast beef with cauliflower, courgette and fennel later or more yummy spag Bol with courgetti from last night.

Fave lockdown food: grated courgette fried with pesto and crème fraîche.

Biggest weak spot: too much cheese and dairy. Not enough water.

fluoropostit · 18/10/2021 09:02

Not lockdown food, low carb food,

nowlook · 18/10/2021 09:02

Morning all! Should be interesting trying to do this with the current situation in our supermarkets...

Looking forward to getting back to it!

GrainOfSalt · 18/10/2021 09:05

Thank you for letting me join. I started two weeks ago with a week of portion controlled sensible eating and then started low carb last monday. Starting weight 16st 4lb and I've lost 8lb over the two weeks. Probably mostly water and the fact I'm starting from a high weight. I found the bootcamp thread this weekend and lept on the bandwagon.
Quick question - I've been starting the day with a cheese omelette, should I be adding veg to breakfast or is it ok to just have veg with other meals? Thank you

nowlook · 18/10/2021 09:05

@putthehamsterbackinitscage

Thanks BIWI I'll remember to weigh in tomorrow... then I set of for 4 days away with work - that'll be an interesting challenge at the start...
If you need any recommendations for service station food/emergency low carb offerings, always happy to help! Wink

What's the accommodation situation?

BIWI · 18/10/2021 09:05

Carb flu

Not everyone experiences this, but if you do, it can be quite unpleasant for a couple of days.

Essentially, this is caused by lack of key electrolytes - sodium particularly but also magnesium and potassium.

Here's a piece from The Diet Doctor , which explains it much better than I can. I've copied it in full as I think it's so useful. (NB the article is called 'keto flu' which is a very low carb diet, which we're not doing on Bootcamp, nevertheless it's still a useful piece, as many here will find that they experience some, if not all, of these symptoms):

Symptoms:

Fatigue
Headache
Irritability
Difficulty focusing (“brain fog”)
Lack of motivation
Dizziness
Sugar cravings
Nausea
Muscle cramps

The cause
The keto flu occurs as your body transitions from burning sugar to burning fat for most of its energy needs.

Switching from a high-carb diet to a very-low-carb diet lowers insulin levels in your body, one of the primary goals of a ketogenic diet.

When insulin levels are very low, your liver begins converting fat into ketones, which most of your cells can use in place of glucose.

When your body is mainly using ketones and fat for energy, you’re in a state of ketosis.

However, it takes your brain and other organs some time to adapt to using this new fuel. When your insulin levels drop, your body responds by excreting more sodium in the urine, along with water.

Because of this, you’ll likely find yourself urinating a lot more often in the first week or so of keto eating.

This change is responsible for some of the rapid – and usually very welcome! – weight loss that happens in the early stages of a keto diet. However, losing a lot of water and sodium is responsible for many of the unpleasant symptoms of keto flu.

It’s well known that response to the keto transition is very individual. Some people may feel fine or slightly tired for a day or two after starting keto. At the other extreme, there are those who develop symptoms that strongly impact their ability to function for several days.

However, the keto flu doesn’t have to be unbearable for anyone if the proper steps are taken to remedy it.

The cure for the keto flu
Symptoms of the keto flu usually disappear by themselves within a few days to weeks, as the body adapts. But rather than suffering needlessly during this time, why not address the cause and start feeling better right now? The first step is by far the most important, and it’s often all that’s needed.

1. Top tip: increase your salt and water intake
Since loss of salt and water is responsible for most keto flu issues, increasing your intake of both can help reduce your symptoms significantly and often eliminate them altogether.

During the first few weeks of your keto lifestyle, whenever you develop a headache, lethargy, nausea, dizziness or other symptoms, drink a glass of water with half a teaspoon of salt stirred into it.

This simple action may alleviate your keto flu symptoms within 15 to 30 minutes. Feel free to do this twice a day or more, if needed.
Or for a tasty alternative, drink consommé, bouillon, bone broth, chicken stock or beef stock — and stir in a spoonful of salted butter, if you like. Or, if you’re using low-sodium bone broth or stock, add a pinch or two of salt.

In addition, make sure you’re drinking enough water. The larger you are, the more water you’ll probably lose in the early stages of keto, and the more you’ll need to replace. A good rule of thumb is to drink a minimum of 2.5 liters of fluid every day during your first week of keto.

This doesn’t mean you must drink at least 2.5 liters of plain water in addition to your other beverages. Although drinking plenty of water is important, coffee and tea will contribute toward your fluid intake as well.

Still, try to keep your caffeine intake modest (about 3 cups of coffee per day), as high amounts may potentially increase loss of water and sodium.

Getting enough water, sodium and other electrolytes like magnesium and potassium can also help with another issue people often experience in the early stages of a keto diet: constipation.

2. More fat = fewer symptoms
Increasing salt and fluid intake usually resolves most of the keto flu side effects. However, if you continue feeling poorly after following those recommendations, try eating more fat.

Due to decades of misinformation about fat being unhealthy, fat phobia is common among people who are new to low-carb eating.

But if you sharply cut back on carbs without upping your fat intake, your body will think it is starving. You’ll feel tired, hungry and miserable.

A well-balanced keto diet includes enough fat to ensure you’re not hungry after a meal, can go for several hours without eating, and have ample energy.

Be sure to increase your intake of fat at the start of your keto journey until your body adapts to using fat and ketones for most of its energy needs. Once you’re fat adapted, let your appetite guide you in cutting back on fat a bit and seeing how much you need to feel satisfied.

In short: When in doubt, add butter or other fat to your food. And check out our top 10 tips for boosting fat intake. You can also follow our keto recipes, which have enough fat in relation to carbs and protein.

3. Slower transition
Has adding more water, salt and fat not helped very much? Are you still feeling achy, tired and off?

We recommend you try to endure keto eating for a few more days until the symptoms pass. Research suggests that a very-low-carb diet is best for weight loss and metabolic issues like type 2 diabetes.

Keto flu symptoms are only temporary – they’ll be long gone once you’re a fat burner.

You can, however, slow down the transition to ketogenic eating by consuming a few more carbs, such as following a more moderate low-carb diet that provides 20 to 50 grams of carbs a day.

Eating slightly more carbs may potentially slow down weight loss and result in less rapid and dramatic health improvements.

However, it can still lead to better health, especially if you are cutting out sugar and processed foods. And keto flu will no longer be an issue.

Once you’ve adapted to low-carb eating, feel free to try eating less than 20 grams of carbs again to see whether your body prefers this or slightly higher carb intake.

4. Take it easy with physical activity
Although many people find that their energy and stamina improve on a keto lifestyle, trying to do too much in the early stages can worsen keto flu symptoms.

Well-known ketogenic researcher Dr. Steve Phinney has conducted studies in endurance athletes and obese adults demonstrating that physical performance decreases during the first week of very-low-carb eating.

Fortunately, his research also shows that performance typically recovers — and often improves — within 4 to 6 weeks.

Walking, stretching, or doing gentle yoga or other mind-body exercise should be fine and may even help you feel better. But when your body is already under stress from trying to adapt to a new fuel system, don’t place an additional burden on it by attempting any type of strenuous workout. Take it easy for the first few weeks and then slowly increase your exercise intensity.

5. Don’t consciously restrict food intake
Some people find that they aren’t very hungry the first week of keto because they are nauseated or have a headache that reduces their appetite. Yet others may get pretty hungry and worry that they’re eating too many calories to achieve the kind of fast weight loss they’ve heard about.

The Atkins diet begins with induction, its strictest phase that allows for maximum fat burning and getting into ketosis quickly. On this diet, as long as carbs are restricted to 20 or fewer grams per day, you can eat as much of the allowed foods you need to feel full.

It’s not a good idea to focus on calories when you’re trying to become keto adapted. Letting yourself get hungry or stressing about the amount of food you’re eating might even make keto flu symptoms worse.

Once you’re steadily in ketosis, your appetite will likely go down, and you’ll naturally end up eating less.

Eat as much of the allowed foods as needed until you’re no longer hungry, and have keto snacks like hard-boiled eggs available in case hunger strikes between meals. On the other hand, make sure to avoid getting overly full by eating slowly and paying attention to hunger and fullness signals.

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BIWI · 18/10/2021 09:07

Good food sources of the key electrolytes are salmon, avocado, spinach and natural full fat yoghurt. But also you may find that a supplement helps you - the one I have used/usually recommend is Zero, by High5 . You can buy that online or from places like Holland & Barratt or Evans Cycles.

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BIWI · 18/10/2021 09:08

@GrainOfSalt

Thank you for letting me join. I started two weeks ago with a week of portion controlled sensible eating and then started low carb last monday. Starting weight 16st 4lb and I've lost 8lb over the two weeks. Probably mostly water and the fact I'm starting from a high weight. I found the bootcamp thread this weekend and lept on the bandwagon. Quick question - I've been starting the day with a cheese omelette, should I be adding veg to breakfast or is it ok to just have veg with other meals? Thank you
It's fine to have just the cheese omelette, if that's all you want! Just make sure you're getting plenty of veg/salad in your other meals.
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nowlook · 18/10/2021 09:09

I favour spinach in a cheese omelette @GrainOfSalt. Too lazy to do anything but grab massive handfuls of it and add to pan. You're not mandated to have veg at breakfast though. Some people will happily have some full fat greek yoghurt with a tsp of double cream/sprinkling of cinnamon; others will have yesterday's leftovers! This morning, I'll be having leftover cheesy leeks, by way of example.

ShagMeRiggins · 18/10/2021 09:16

183.8 lbs 83.37kg 13st 1lb

Here’s a little trick I use to stay motivated and remind myself to celebrate victories.

We record our weight in pounds on The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness, but I also keep a spreadsheet that shows my current weight in pounds, kilograms, and stones.

I weigh daily because it works for me—don’t do it if you become despondent seeing an overnight 2lb gain in a week where you might ultimately lose 1.5lbs overall. If that’s the case stick with a weekly weigh-in or, like many posters, don’t weigh at all and use measurements and the feel of clothing to indicate your progress.

Anyway, the good thing about three units of weight measurement is there’s quite often a mini milestone to celebrate, which can be motivating.

DRINK SOME WATER RIGHT NOW

Andi2020 · 18/10/2021 09:23

Good morning everyone
Glad to have support of thread back as @prettybird said easy to put on weight again that's why I like reading the thread for support and every time I see the word water it reminds me to drink.
@Glenthebattleostrich nice to have a hair apt to look forward too.
@ListenLinda goodluck with house move.
@fluoropostitGrin at baby is 6 mine is 13 16 18 still blame them for my belly.

@BIWI looking advice on the green veg find it hard to take without sprinkling cheese and melting before eating it for flavour, apart from that I have been able to keep up maintenance but love hearing how everyone is so thanks again for Thread

ShagMeRiggins · 18/10/2021 09:33

poorbuthapppy it’s interesting to notice how badly your body reacts to processed carbs when you don’t generally eat them, isn’t it? Hope you’re back on track ASAP.

Must confess, by the way, there was nothing accidental about my last hurrah! It was more of an ‘end of summer’ last hurrah than an ‘oh shite, Bootcamp starts Monday’ last hurrah. Other than copious amounts of white wine and a perfect baguette jambon buerre on the way home, everything else was pure Bootcamp. Just lots more of it than usual.

When I die I want to be reincarnated as an oyster so I can taste myself all day long. Bliss.

KeyLimePies · 18/10/2021 09:34

So Keto flu mirrors many menopause symptoms - I'll stick an extra HRT patch on if it hits me Grin

(Only joking - don't do that anyone!)