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April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday

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BIWI · 06/04/2021 16:13

This one has been timed to finish just as the final lockdown restrictions are removed, so hopefully we can all emerge like butterflies from our chrysalis.

A few days left before we start on Monday, so time to start thinking and planning for the next 10 weeks.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • full sugar fizzy drinks
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, sausages, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (which is on the spreadsheet that I link to in the OP of each chat thread). Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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prettybird · 07/04/2021 17:06

Just to maintain the record, here are today's earrings: Daisy Jorg Jensen ones that dh gave me yesterday as part of my 60th birthday present Smile (along with a matching necklace and bracelet).

The March earring challenge was good for me too Grin as it reminded me how many lovely earrings I have and I'm now making more of an effort to choose ones each day. I blame Stuntnun anyway, as she articulated the idea whereas I'd just thought it Grin

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday
NotwatchingSpooks · 07/04/2021 17:25

Thanks BIWI and sorry to be late to the list.

Looking forward to bootcamp starting on Monday. I’ve been having an Easter holiday at home, which is what I actually call a Staycation 🤭 , but that a whole other thread I think 🤔.

Looking forward to bootcamp on Monday and catching up with all the chat.

NotwatchingSpooks · 07/04/2021 17:27

Ps no one else in my family is on “holiday” “staycation” just me 😂

Today I have even had an afternoon snooze .

Dreamqueen · 07/04/2021 18:13

Thank you @Biwi . I did well during last BC. I'm still low carb re food but have fallen off wagon on water and too much alcohol.Chomping to get back on it in the new BC.

Thank you to whoever shared the fakeaway doner kebab recipe, it's lovely. Sorry I can't rememebr who it was and can't scroll through.

DressingGown · 07/04/2021 20:55

@prettybird @Solongsugar joining your club of “I will get under 11st & into healthy bmi.” This time I will be concentrating on water, which has really tailed off, and glad to have 2 weeks of no nuts as I have been a salted almond guzzling twat lately.

venusandmars · 07/04/2021 20:56

@NotwatchingSpooks well I think your staycation sounds perfect. Perhaps there could be a sort of family rotation where every week one member gets to opt out of the frenzy and just chill, or even have a snooze in the afternoon...

So when someone asks "what's for tea" or "have you done your homework" or "the grass needs cutting / bins need to go out"... you (or the relevant person) just answer, sorry I'm on staycation at the moment, ask me next week.

cheeseisthebest · 07/04/2021 22:26

Venusandmars I would love that. I had a nice lesiurely wander round tesco at teatime and said they could all sort their own dinner out.

Oneborneverydecade · 07/04/2021 23:14

@prettybird @Solongsugar @DressingGown I'm another who would like to get below 11st. I have a stubborn 4lb to go. We'll get there within 10 weeks surely?!

ouchmyfeet · 08/04/2021 07:22

Too much Cathy twattery here the last few days but the birthday chocolates are finished so back on track today.

I made my wishes re chocolate (ie NONE) very clear but my DH and my MIL still both bought me a box each. DH's was at least small, and I shared both boxes with the family but I'm still an ungrateful wretch Hmm

HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 08/04/2021 08:12

Hi all, joining for the first time. I've been using MFP to calorie count since August last year and have lost 4 stone but it's slowed right down since Xmas so hoping this will help to get back on track and lose the last stone to get into the healthy BMI.

Hopeislost · 08/04/2021 10:16

@ouchmyfeet Sorry to hear that your family aren't being supportive. Have you spoken to your DH about why he disregarded your wishes? Having him on board rather than sabotaging you will make things easier.

I requested no Easter eggs for me this year and only received one, which DH gladly took care of for me!

blackbettybramblejam · 08/04/2021 11:10

DH has been lumbered with about 10 eggs! I don’t want DD (4) eating chocolate every day until Christmas which is what will happen if we don’t get DH to eat them up! (He could eat them all and not gain 1lb)
So excited to start.
I’m doing LCHF this week to get ready because I don’t want the low carb cold when I’m at work next week.

debka · 08/04/2021 15:24

Hello! I'm jumping in on the next bootcamp, if that's alright.
I've lost 7 stone LCing on my own over the last 18 months, but have since moved in with my partner and the self control has definitely slipped. He eats so much sugar and stays permanently at 10 stone 😬😬
I've gained a few pounds, but the real difference is in how I feel now, since eating carbs again: tired, sluggish and craving all the bad foods.
I'm looking forward to the support in bootcamp to get myself motivated and eating better again.
Oh- and I have a 10k race at the end of May, and I haven't run further than 5k in about 3 months, so need to get my arse in gear with that, too!

Oneborneverydecade · 08/04/2021 18:50

Some fantastic losses, hello new ladies, looking forward to picking your brains and pinching your favourite recipes Smile

JimmyJabs · 08/04/2021 21:32

Any other complete newbies here? I'm currently at the largest I've ever been and am feeling quite daunted. I've lost weight before, using Weight Watchers, and that worked great for me at the time, but I was in my 20s and quite active. Now I'm 42 and I find weight loss much harder - plus I really can't do WW or SW any more because of the approach they have now to allowing unlimited quantities of stuff like pasta. Is anyone else in a similar stage in life and had success?

prettybird · 08/04/2021 21:58

Jimmyjabs - I've been doing this Way of Eating (WoE) on and off for 8 years , but seriously since 2017, when I hit a high point of 14'13" Shock after some tough times in my marriage and consequent comfort eating Sad. I lost 3 stone in 6 months Smile. I've kept 2 stone of that off consistently since then - but mostly the full 3 stone and am currently 3.5 stone from that high point. Still want to lose another stone but am happy that my current "set" weight is under 11.5 stone.

For context, I'm 5'5.5" tall and turned 60 on Tuesday Smile

JimmyJabs · 08/04/2021 22:11

Happy belated birthday! I'm 5'5" and I think I'm somewhere around 14st, a lot which due to comfort eating (depression, living alone during lockdown, probably boredom as well if I'm being honest) so there's lots of parallels. I'm encouraged that it's worked so well for you. I'd love to get to 10.5st but I'm prepared to accept that my body is different now and it might have other ideas about what my optimal weight should...

MrsOmelette · 09/04/2021 05:36

@JimmyJabs I’ve lost two stones since January this year eating this way. I’m 5ft 5, forties, have another 4-5 stones to go. I find once you get in to the low-carb “zone” it’s relatively easy as feelings of hunger greatly dissipate.

TheGoodShipObvious · 09/04/2021 07:00

Morning all! I dropped off the last boot camp (under a slightly different name) early, having fallen off the wagon, set fire to it and run off in to the far distance... I’ve been about halfway back on it this week, and already feel better. I don’t think I’d noticed how much better I felt in myself while eating well until I wasn’t!

@JimmyJabs I was new last time. Apart from the aforementioned wagon burning in the last week I was happy. I’ve previously lost weight on SW, but similarly it’s just not for me any more. It takes a bit to turn off the SW/WW mindset but it’s well worth it. The huge thing for me was that I got to the point of being genuinely satiated by three normal sized meals a day (and a few creamy coffees), no snacks. I cannot recall ever feeling like that in my life before. I’ve got 5+ stone to lose, and lost 20lb so far.

BIWI · 09/04/2021 09:41

@JimmyJabs

Any other complete newbies here? I'm currently at the largest I've ever been and am feeling quite daunted. I've lost weight before, using Weight Watchers, and that worked great for me at the time, but I was in my 20s and quite active. Now I'm 42 and I find weight loss much harder - plus I really can't do WW or SW any more because of the approach they have now to allowing unlimited quantities of stuff like pasta. Is anyone else in a similar stage in life and had success?
Welcome @JimmyJabs!

I think your story will resonate with many of us here - new and old alike.

I was around your age when I first discovered low carbing and it was a complete revelation. No more obsessing over calories. No more miserable meals because I didn't have enough calories. One evening, I kid you not, I sat down to a plate of boiled celery because that was all I could 'afford' to eat!

I faffed around with it for a while, and because I wasn't really doing it (or anything!) properly, my weight continued to rise though. A combination of a very full-time and stressful job, running my own business, two small children, etc, etc. Eventually, one Christmas, shopping for a Little Black Dress I stood in front of a mirror trying on a dress that was a size 14 - and it was horrible. Straining at the seams and showing off every lump and bump. At only 5ft2, that was way, way, way too heavy and big for me. So that's when I started low carbing seriously. Lost two stones very easily and didn't ever have to stare mournfully into a plate of celery ever again!

The best thing about Bootcamp, I think, is not the fact that you will succeed (which you will, if you follow the rules), is the support and friendship and just good chat you'll get here.

Many people are regulars as it's a long 'journey' we're on (apologies for the cliché!), but don't let that put you off - jump in and post. We're all here to help Smile

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nowlook · 09/04/2021 10:15

There are quite a few posters I've noticed who are also 42 (including me!) JimmyJabs. Building on what BIWI has just said, I wonder if it's particularly popular at that age because (in terms of sweeping averages) the kids are old enough that you can do something for yourself again (mine are 14 and 11, for example) *

*of course, there are many other posters of many other ages who do or do not have children and this post is not meant in any way to suggest one form of living is superior (or inferior) to another. We are all Bootcamp's children etc.

nowlook · 09/04/2021 10:19

And I love the fact that prettybird has made it clear that she's 5 ft 5.5 Grin

Freetodowhatiwant · 09/04/2021 10:28

Hello! I’ve just happened upon the thread and I think I’m going to join. I did the last leaving lockdown boot camp and although I had some obstacles (I’m a terrible cook, I don’t eat meat, I was separating from my DH of 20 years and in the end i sodded off to spain) I did manage to lose the weight i wanted to. I think I work well if I combine it with IF - 16:8.

BIWI · 09/04/2021 10:32

Welcome back @Freetodowhatiwant. Are you still in Spain? How's things?

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Freetodowhatiwant · 09/04/2021 10:42

Hello thanks for having me back! I spent the summer in spain but am now a single parent living on the coast back in the UK. Stbxdh is living a short walk away and we are slowly finding our way in our new city and new lives. So yes, not bad at all. Better now schools are back. Well, after Easter hols.

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