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Low-carb bootcamp

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday

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BIWI · 06/04/2021 16:13

This one has been timed to finish just as the final lockdown restrictions are removed, so hopefully we can all emerge like butterflies from our chrysalis.

A few days left before we start on Monday, so time to start thinking and planning for the next 10 weeks.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • full sugar fizzy drinks
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)


For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, sausages, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from


The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (which is on the spreadsheet that I link to in the OP of each chat thread). Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from //www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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BIWI · 10/04/2021 10:44

@TinyTroubleMaker

Thank you. Still getting to grips with the rules.
Yes the carb count came from the pickled gherkins.
I'm using an app called weightlossresources, hope it's s accurate.
Will pop to the shops today to stock up on green veg, and herbal teas!

No worries! A lot of it will seem counter intuitive, given that we've been told to avoid fat and salt for so long. But trust us, it does work.

Also - really, really no need to use an app to track what you're eating. Just follow the rules and you will be fine.

Here's a link to the last spreadsheet the rules are on one of the tabs.

Next week I'll start a new thread with a brand new, shiny spreadsheet with all our names on it.
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blackbettybramblejam · 10/04/2021 10:49

Morning all, I’ve been doing boot camp lite this past week to get into the zone gently. I had a lovely roasted cauliflower cheese and Brussels sprouts in butter with a buttery salmon fillet last night for tea (the cheese sauce was made with BIWI’s amazing recipe of cream, lemon and mature cheddar 😋)
This morning I’ve already had 1.5 litres of lemon water and am about to have a tuna steak.
I’m going to pop to the supermarket soon to pick up some low carb options for the week ahead. I must remember something breakfasty like yoghurt and lots of yummy meats and fish.
I’m actually feeling quite motivated now it’s spring time but through the winter I was just in survival mode trying to get through lockdown with very little mental energy to dedicate to self care and meal planning. The time feels right.
I already feel more stable emotionally , the mental ups and downs are real when you are living on carbs.

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prettybird · 10/04/2021 11:11

I'm having steak, shallots and asparagus tonight (once I've gone back to Lidl as they had no beef on their shelves yesterday although it was relatively late at 7.30pm Shock) - Dh will have his with mushrooms and chips.

Provided they've restocked, I'll also get mince and make cheeseburger pie for Monday onwards Wink. Dh is joining me on Boot Camp (although he's already told me he won't do it 100% Hmm) - so that will help reduce the temptation from alcohol Grin

I'm normally a daily weigher but haven't weighed myself the last few days as I'm in denial about the damage that my birthday celebrations will have done Blush

Starting afresh on Monday.

Today I'm trying to get back in the habit of lots of water Grin

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decisionsincisions · 10/04/2021 11:41

Really looking forward to making some positive steps to regaining control of my eating and drinking habits. I am a weekend drinker and will be aiming to cut right down to 2 units per night at the weekend. I wonder if the cut down of alcohol will help too.
I tried a keto diet several years ago but at the time as a new mum it wasn't sustainable. I love low carb high fat woe and really want to make this a sustainable lifestyle for myself.
My problem is that I am greedy and that I make excuses, a lot. Oh its the weekend, oh its the school holiday etc etc etc. I think this bootcamp and accountability that comes with it will really help me push through to the point where I see and feel the results. I want to be healthy. I can already see the support here and I am so glad to be a part of this with you all.
I have my first two weeks planned out, DH is on board so no distractions.

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HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 10/04/2021 11:57

Quick Q, are we only supposed to have the green highlighted veg during the first 2 weeks?

I really like soups with a tomato base so lunches tend to include tinned tomatoes, need to know if this is allowed or contraband.

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Oneborneverydecade · 10/04/2021 12:05

@MrsKoala £2k a month?! That's a big drop

@decisionsincisions good luck 🍀

I've bought some size 12 jeans as motivation to lose the final 7lb over this BC. I'd like to be 10st 10 and use 4lb as my buffer

L: chicken mayo salad
D: cold roast chicken with my new favourite Leon brussels sprout kale salad

I had no idea until just now that it's brussels not brussel Confused

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BIWI · 10/04/2021 12:37

@HalfShrunkMoreToGo

Quick Q, are we only supposed to have the green highlighted veg during the first 2 weeks?

I really like soups with a tomato base so lunches tend to include tinned tomatoes, need to know if this is allowed or contraband.

@HalfShrunkMoreToGo Try and focus on the green zone as much as you can, but it doesn't mean the others are off limits - although in the red zone, anything more than 8g carbs per 100g are not allowed through the whole of Bootcamp (i.e. parsnips, potatoes, beetroot and sweetcorn)
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decisionsincisions · 10/04/2021 13:23

@oneborneverydecade thank you - you too! Daffodil

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Jollyholibobs · 10/04/2021 13:25

I am confused regarding Greek yoghurt and would welcome some advice.

I have been avoiding milk due to a belief that it’s too carby. Checking this out semiskimmed milk is 4.8g carbs per 100g where as Greek yoghurt is 4.1g (but not easy to find in my regular small town shops which only stock low fat versions) and Greek style is 4.8g. Have I misunderstood that Greek yoghurt is a good BC food? How significant is the carb count of true Greek compared to Greek style and could Greek yoghurt be contributing to my carb cravings?

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ouchmyfeet · 10/04/2021 14:29

Hi all, looking forward to getting cracking on bootcamp on Monday. I've just done some prep for the week ahead and have a celeriac dauphinoise ready as well as a cheesy turnip and cabbage bake (I think this is @nowlook's recipe? It's better than it sounds Smile)

Not sure if this is an NSV but it feels like a victory of sorts for me: last night for a variety of reasons we had an unplanned takeaway. The vote was first pizza. I have vetoed pizza so many times since I started bootcamp in January.... last night I made myself cheeseburger pie and didn't touch a bite of pizza Halo

Freezing cold today, spent the morning standing in snow and sleet watching DS play football. Roll on spring.

Meals for today:

Lunch: leftover cheeseburger pie with homemade coleslaw
Tea: grilled fish with herby butter and FLGV (probably cabbage and mushrooms)

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Oneborneverydecade · 10/04/2021 14:39

No one asked but here's the sprout salad recipe Grin I've included the dressing although we use classic vinaigrette as I wasn't sure about the honey.

Shredded sprout salad
2 handfuls destemmed and shredded kale
100g shredded sprouts
Juice 1/2 lemon
50g cooked bacon lardons
25g smoked almonds
1 tbsp grated pecorino
Salt & pepper

Honey mustard dressing
5 tbsp olive oil
2 tbsp cider vinegar
2 tsp honey
2 tsp grain mustard
1 tsp dijon mustard

I'll try and add it to the spreadsheet on Monday

We hid the kids chocolate before Easter and can't find it anywhere

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StuntNun · 10/04/2021 14:47

Jollyholibobs milk is complicated because, even though it's technically low carb at 4.8g per 100 ml it's also relatively low calorie and low fat so it doesn't suit the macros of this way of eating. 100 ml milk contains 4.8g carbs, 1.8g fat and comes in at 49 calories. 100 ml Greek yogurt on the other hand is 3.8g carbs,10.3g fat, and 132 calories so it's much more suited to a low carb-high fat approach. The other issues with milk are that it's easy to consume 100 ml in two or three cups of tea of coffee plus consuming dairy protein multiple times throughout the day in hot drinks is much more likely to cause increased hunger and cravings compared to a single portion of yogurt per day. That's why we also don't recommend having multiple creamy coffees per day despite double cream being fine for this way of eating. Greek Style Yogurt is less optimal than Greek Yogurt because it is produced by adding thickening agents (milk powder) rather than by straining off the whey so it is slightly higher carb, lower protein, more processed, and less nutritious. In terms of cravings then any dairy product can cause hunger and/or cravings and the less processed the worse they will be so milk is most likely to cause problems, then cream, then yogurt, with cheese, particularly hard cheese, least likely to be an issue. Frequency of consumption is a big factor due to the way dairy protein perturbs insulin levels. So if you think dairy is an issue then you need to look at frequency of consumption as well as the form of dairy. For example I only eat cheese as part of a meal and not as a snack on its own. Double cream is a common problem for people if they're having it spooned from the pot as a snack or in several creamy coffees throughout the day. As a rule of thumb you shouldn't ever be drinking your calories.

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Rayna37 · 10/04/2021 14:52

Jumping back in, I think I disappeared in December when the restaurants and shops opened up and I went a bit wild. I have about 10lbs to lose, yes the same ones every time . The swimming pool reopening will be an additional help; not been running much. Feeling a bit frumpy and not sure if it's just the lack of getting dressed up properly and seeing people or linked to the weight creep too.

Looking forward to learning about the importance of earrings (is this to distract from my burgeoning double chin?) and finding out who this Cathy is who's been behaving so badly!

42 on my next birthday so in that gang.

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StuntNun · 10/04/2021 14:52

Note that there are two forms of processing involved here. In general the more processed a food is, the worse it is, i.e. pork belly strips are healthier than streaky bacon, even though it's the same cut of meat, because the pork belly is unprocessed; a pork chop is better than sausages, etc. When it comes to dairy then more processed is generally better because it breaks down the lactose sugar and the dairy protein making it lower carb and less likely to perturb insulin. So cheese is better than yogurt is better than cream is better than milk. Processed cheese is the bad type of processing; cheddar is the good type of processing.

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BIWI · 10/04/2021 14:58

@Jollyholibobs

This is from Healthline and hopefully explains why Greek yoghurt is better than milk:

Carbs in plain yogurt occur mainly as simple sugars called lactose (milk sugar) and galactose

However, the lactose content of yogurt is lower than in milk. This is because bacterial fermentation results in lactose breakdown

When lactose is broken down, it forms galactose and glucose. The glucose is mostly converted to lactic acid, the substance that contributes the sour flavor to yogurt and other fermented milk products

The other thing you need to look at is the fat content. Total (or Fage) used to do a 10% fat variant, but now only do 5% or 0% fat. However, all the major supermarkets have their own brand of Greek yoghurt - usually in their premium ranges - that is 10% fat.

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Jollyholibobs · 10/04/2021 15:15

@BIWI and @StuntNun thanks for your except explanations. I need to venture further afield to find proper Greek yog. Local Tesco doesn’t stock. Sounds like it would be worth it.

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Jollyholibobs · 10/04/2021 15:23

*expert

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StuntNun · 10/04/2021 15:40

Jollyholibobs I make my own Greek yogurt - it's really easy, all you need is a thermometer. You can use any live yogurt as a starter to make whole milk into yogurt in a yogurt maker, thermos flask, Instant Pot or slow cooker. Then strain through a nut milk bag, cheesecloth or muslin to remove the whey. I freeze some of the whey and use it as starter for my next batch.

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venusandmars · 10/04/2021 16:11

@decisionsincisions I think cutting back on alcohol will help in many ways - and in any case the first 2 weeks of bootcamp should be no alcohol. Alcohol is an easy source of energy for the body to use, so when you are drinking you will use the alcohol first, rather than burning fat. Also for me less alcohol results in fewer off-plan eating decisions, no pre-dinner carb-laden snacks if I haven't got a G&T, no biscuits with my cheese if my resolve is not weakened by a glass of port. Plus more energy in the morning to get up and eat on plan and no hangover requiring a big mac, salty fries, and a sugar laden coke Smile

We were up very early this morning to go and see a rare bird at a local nature reserve. We saw it but the temperature was -8.5 Shock Sad (that's a frozen blue face, not a sad one). So we returned home to a treat of fried eggs, streaky bacon, sausage, black pudding (just a small slice for me), buttery mushrooms, fried tomato, and a coffee with cream

No need for lunch.

D - avocado, huge salad, ham and cheese, coleslaw, then some raspberries and cream/greek yogurt mix. The last raspberries for a few weeks. By the end of next bootcamp we'll be getting the fresh local ones.

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CrispyChickenThighs · 10/04/2021 16:13

Earrings arrived in a beautiful inspirational box! I love spring blossoms, so these make me really happy.

The information about Greek yoghurt is really useful, as I've just found mine is Greek style, and doesn't seem to have as much fat.

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday
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BIWI · 10/04/2021 16:30

Lovely earrings!

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50FootWave · 10/04/2021 16:37

I'm in, please!

I have already lost 3 and a half stone on low-carb between Aug - Feb but have been stalling/dicking around.

I only have one more stone to go so could use some focus and motivation.

Will read through the thread and add myself to the SSoF.

See you all on Monday!

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Nateismine · 10/04/2021 16:53

I need to get my head around eating fat! Do I need to actively add fat to each meal? Or is the natural fat content enough?
Eg an omelette for breakfast fried in a knob of butter- do I need to add further fat or is the butter enough?
Sea bass fillet and greens for lunch- some butter with the greens but Mayo too, or not?
Avocado salad- enough fat in the avocado or do I need to smother with olive oil.

And finally- if we are trying to limit dairy, are we limited to butter and Mayo to add fat? Would love other suggestions.
Am I overthinking this?

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BIWI · 10/04/2021 17:28

@Nateismine

I need to get my head around eating fat! Do I need to actively add fat to each meal? Or is the natural fat content enough?
Eg an omelette for breakfast fried in a knob of butter- do I need to add further fat or is the butter enough?
Sea bass fillet and greens for lunch- some butter with the greens but Mayo too, or not?
Avocado salad- enough fat in the avocado or do I need to smother with olive oil.

And finally- if we are trying to limit dairy, are we limited to butter and Mayo to add fat? Would love other suggestions.
Am I overthinking this?

Welcome @Nateismine!

Yes, shifting to a high fat WOE can be difficult to accept. But it's key for this WOE to work.

In the main, yes you will generally need to add fat to your meals, and generously. No little drizzles or thin smears of anything.

Looking at your suggested meals:

an omelette for breakfast fried in a knob of butter- do I need to add further fat or is the butter enough?

As long as it's plenty of butter, then that should be fine. You could, of course, also add some cheese.

Sea bass fillet and greens for lunch- some butter with the greens but Mayo too, or not?

You'll definitely need more fat here as sea bass doesn't have much fat. So fry the fish in butter or oil, and also butter with the greens. A dollop of mayo wouldn't go amiss either! However, check the carb count of your mayo as they vary quite a lot.

Avocado salad- enough fat in the avocado or do I need to smother with olive oil lovely fat in the avocado but, yes, you'll need to add an oily dressing to the rest of the salad - and possibly also some mayo.

You can use lots of different oils to add fat to your diet - coconut oil, sesame oil, avocado oil, walnut oil, olive oil etc. The other thing to consider is choosing fattier cuts of meat and fish. So chicken thighs rather than chicken breast (and with the skin!); 12% fat beef mince rather than 5% fat; salmon instead of sea bass - etc, etc.

You may find that dairy doesn't cause you any issues, so don't rule out cheese and cream at the outset. And, of course, full fat natural/Greek yoghurt.
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Squidelicious · 10/04/2021 18:31

Vegan breakfast ideas for next week, often with bullet proof coffee. Some ideas for those of you who were asking.

Monday : avocado red Shakshuka red
Tuesday : spicy Tofu Scramble with kale and spinnach
Wednesday : avocado green shaskshuka
Thursday : Green veg stuffed capsicum
Friday : Tofu quiches with green veg (leftover veg)

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