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Low-carb bootcamp

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday

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BIWI · 06/04/2021 16:13

This one has been timed to finish just as the final lockdown restrictions are removed, so hopefully we can all emerge like butterflies from our chrysalis.

A few days left before we start on Monday, so time to start thinking and planning for the next 10 weeks.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • full sugar fizzy drinks
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)


For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, sausages, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from


The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (which is on the spreadsheet that I link to in the OP of each chat thread). Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from //www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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prettybird · 09/04/2021 10:48

@nowlook

And I love the fact that prettybird has made it clear that she's 5 ft 5.5 Grin

It makes a difference to the BMI calculation Grin
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nowlook · 09/04/2021 10:48

The Times and The Guardian both reporting this morning that both Spain and Greece are on the cards for summer holidays from the end of June (provided they have reached 50% vaccination status etc) That's where my two (rescheduled) breaks are booked, so it's an extra focus now. May have to break out the swimwear for progress photos. Don't worry, I'll not be posting them Wink

the Telegraph is not so confident, but I don't take that paper so it's not relevant

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JimmyJabs · 09/04/2021 10:51

@nowlook

There are quite a few posters I've noticed who are also 42 (including me!) JimmyJabs. Building on what BIWI has just said, I wonder if it's particularly popular at that age because (in terms of sweeping averages) the kids are old enough that you can do something for yourself again (mine are 14 and 11, for example) *

*of course, there are many other posters of many other ages who do or do not have children and this post is not meant in any way to suggest one form of living is superior (or inferior) to another. We are all Bootcamp's children etc.

I don't have kids. I think it's because 42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything Grin
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BestIsWest · 09/04/2021 11:01

I am also joining again having done this five or six years ago with great success. I know it is going to be hard though.
My downfall is tea with milk. It is what always lets me down in the end. I’ve tried it black, tried fruit and mint teas, almond milk but it is my one true love. I can manage soy or almond for a bit surely.
I won’t be able to start until Tuesday due to birthday celebrations but looking forward to it.

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Tickledtrout · 09/04/2021 11:09

Popping on to say hello. Two stone to lose. Have had a knee injury but added weight isn't helping at all.
Any other vegetarians putting together a shopping list at the moment? I think I will have to eat some fish tbh. Literally can't stomach quorn.
Work busy next week so have cut out white and brown carbs this week to make next week a little easier. Stocking up on herbal teas too

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Tickledtrout · 09/04/2021 11:13

@BestIsWest I think unsweetened soy is the closest in tea. Not a fan of almond milk other than in smoothies.
Does anyone know what the line is on chia seeds? Chia pudding with almond milk and ground vanilla is a passable breakfast. All depends on chia being allowed though. I think they're relatively carby!

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BIWI · 09/04/2021 11:26

Nuts and seeds not allowed in the first two weeks!

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HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 09/04/2021 11:29

@BIWI are there any previous threads with meal plans for the first 2 weeks? Trying to get some good ideas of a full days food that doesn't include any of the banned foods.

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Ninkanink · 09/04/2021 11:36

@BestIsWest if milk in tea is a dealbreaker (it is for me) then that’s really not going to be enough to derail you unless you’re drinking ridiculous amounts of it. I measure out my milk in the morning so I know how much I’ve had. I can easily keep it within reasonable limits, especially because I don’t eat cheese every day. If you’re used to having your tea with lots and lots of milk then you can gradually take it down and your tastes will acclimatise.

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nowlook · 09/04/2021 11:37

[quote Tickledtrout]@BestIsWest I think unsweetened soy is the closest in tea. Not a fan of almond milk other than in smoothies.
Does anyone know what the line is on chia seeds? Chia pudding with almond milk and ground vanilla is a passable breakfast. All depends on chia being allowed though. I think they're relatively carby![/quote]
Breakfast is found to be the most challenging for many, I think. Popular choices include:

  • Greek yoghurt (sometimes with a tsp of double cream and a dash of vanilla);

-Mashed eggs with butter;
-Spinach, eggs and avocado with some chilli flakes;
-Omelette with fillings of your choice. Mushrooms and spinach for me.

Equally, you can try to forget Mr Kellogg's brainwashing and have leftovers from the night before. I'm a bit rubbish at that, though. It's more important to get the fat in, I think.
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prettybird · 09/04/2021 11:40

I usually drink far too much tea with milk. In order to properly IF (16:8 or the occasional extended fast) I've taken to restricting myself to a window of time
and/or a maximum of four two cups of tea-with-milk and the rest of the time I thole the tea black. Still not keen on it thoughHmm

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Freetodowhatiwant · 09/04/2021 11:42

@BestIsWest I also love tea with milk, and especially when working form home. Last time I did this I managed to reduce it to 2 a day but I missed it. I’m trying to drink black coffee as I don’t like black tea or any herbal teas. I will miss the tea though.

I am also a veggie @Tickledtrout but will probably be eating fish. I kinda am almost tempted to eat meat but it’s been so long. As I recall @BIWI quorn products are not allowed at first anyway...?

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prettybird · 09/04/2021 11:43

10% fat Greek yoghurt (Lidl has started doing it again: the "authentic" Greek yoghurt rather than their Greek style stuff which isn't nice) with a pinch of cinnamon is lovely Smile but there again, I adore cinnamon Wink

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HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 09/04/2021 11:45

@nowlook I discovered quark in the cheese aisle recently and it's bloody delicious. It's a soft cheese but very mildly flavoured and can be eaten savoury or sweet. It tasted like Greek yoghurt but creamier and less tangy.

Slightly less calories, more protein and less salt than Greek yoghurt too.

I usually have it with berries, nuts or seeds but thinking I may just add some vanilla extract and have that for breakfast.

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nowlook · 09/04/2021 11:51

I thought Quark was fat-free though HalfShrunkMoreToGo? I will have a gander when I'm next in the supermarket.

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nowlook · 09/04/2021 11:54

Oh, and on your question about daily meals, Shrunk if you have a look at previous week 1 threads, you'll see many people list out what they've had or are planning to have. There's also the spreadsheet, which does have a tab with daily plan ideas (you'll find an example of that at the start of every bootcamp weekly thread). Happy prepping!

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BIWI · 09/04/2021 11:59

I think the best way to get a feel for that @HalfShrunkMoreToGo would be to read through previous weeks 1 & 2 threads - but you'll need plenty of time for that!

Here would be my suggestions - feel free to ignore!

(I'm assuming that you eat anything/don't have any allergies, etc)

For breakfasts, eggs of some kind are great (2, boiled, scrambled or poached). You could also have bacon and eggs, sausage and eggs or mushroom and eggs - all fried, of course. Avoid bacon/sausage on too many days, however, as they're processed

Alternatively, if you don't fancy eggs, then full fat Greek yoghurt (not Greek-style). In the weeks after our initial fortnight you could add nuts or seeds or some berries. In the first two weeks you could add cinnamon or vanilla if you are less keen on it neat.

Or, you have leftovers from the night before. There's no rule that says you have to have special breakfast foods! That was invented by Mr Kellogg et al.

Lunch - obviously depends where you are, if you're at home or the office, but for me would usually be something with salad - so tuna mayo (full fat mayo, obviously!) or ham and cheese (again, be wary of ham too often) or hard boiled eggs.

Soup is great, as long as you are careful about the carb content. Unfortunately most manufactured soups tend to be pretty high in carbs - a lot use potato as a thickener. So homemade is the best - some kind of soup made with onion/shallots, leeks, celery and any other low carb veg that you have to hand.

Omelettes are also a great, easy lunch. With cheese or mushrooms or gently sautéed shallots (actually with any leftover veg chopped up and thrown in!)

Dinner

Here, to be honest, pretty much anything goes, as long as it doesn't have pasta, rice or potatoes!

Think of any 'meat and 2 veg' type of meal, and that would be fine - just leave out the potatoes or add an extra veg. So, for example, if you were going to serve salmon fillets, with broccoli, leeks and new potatoes either leave the potatoes out and increase the amount of broccoli and leeks, or add a third veg.

Dishes that would have used potatoes or pasta/rice can be prepared using other, lower carb veg. So, for example, shepherd's pie can be made using a mash made from mashed celeriac or cauliflower or swede. No reason why anyone has to have it with potato, other than it's conventional!

Something like spagetti Bolognese is a bit more difficult if you really love pasta (as I do!), but when I'm serving this to the rest of the family I either:

  • just have the sauce, with plenty of Parmesan on the top - possibly with salad or extra veg
  • serve the sauce on a bed of finely shredded and lightly boiled cabbage, or courgetti
  • replace the pasta with Bare Naked noodles . A bit of an acquired taste, but very, very low in carbs


Chilli - leave out the beans (for your portion) and serve on its own, with yoghurt/sour cream and cheese on top. Add extra mushrooms to it, and again serve with salad or extra veg

A roast dinner - easy peasy! Just don't serve roast potatoes or parsnips. If I'm doing a roast chicken, for example, I'd serve it with braised white/green cabbage and/or some roasted broccoli and/or celeriac 'chips' and/or swede mash - all manner of different 'conventional' veg. Sometimes if I'm roasting a chicken I'll do a tray of roasted veg instead - making it more Mediterranean. So mixed peppers, shallots, courgettes and aubergine. Often with a head of garlic cloves (separated) in the mix, and a chopped chilli or two.

A favourite here is roasted veg with sausages and halloumi - brown sausages, then add to a tray of roasted veg (as above) and roast in a hot oven for 20 minutes. After 20 minutes, stir it all round and add the sliced halloumi and roast for another 20 minutes till everything is starting to char nicely.

These were our meals this week:

Mon - salmon fillets, in foil parcels, marinated with olive oil, garlic and lemon juice, served with roasted broccoli and shallots and salad with a vinaigrette made from olive oil, white wine vinegar and salt/pepper

Tues - roast pork loin, and crackling, with braised red cabbage and celeriac and leek mash, with gravy made from the pork juice (the pork was roasted on a 'trivet' of onion and carrot, and into the roasting tin was a sloosh of white wine and lots of water)

Weds - sort-of Spanish chicken: chicken thighs with chorizo and black olives, in a garlicky and chilli tomato sauce, served with salad and roasted cauliflower

Thurs - pork fillet stir fry: pork fillet thinly sliced and marinated in sesame oil, ponzu soy sauce, garlic, ginger and dried chilli flakes, added to a stir fry of cauliflower rice, broccoli florets, onion, garlic and thinly shredded omelette, seasoned with soy sauce and star anise

Tonight is takeaway night. Not always easy to navigate the menu, especially if you're considering Thai or Chinese, but I tend to a bit more relaxed about things - but still avoid rice/noodles/breads/pancakes and any sauce that would obviously be thickened with flour.

So - loads of options!

Go and have a look at the Bootcamp recipe threads, which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic and you'll find a lot more inspiration.

But hope that helps in the interim!
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Tickledtrout · 09/04/2021 12:02

@Freetodowhatiwant don't think I'd be able to scoff meat and certainly not in the quantity required. Will work out something, I'm sure.

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BIWI · 09/04/2021 12:04

Although Quark is low carb, it's also very low fat, so not such a good option for Bootcamp. Ricotta or marscapone or cream cheese would all be better options, although they are higher in carbs.

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BIWI · 09/04/2021 12:05

Quorn is OK during the first two weeks if you have to. I don't like it because it's so heavily processed, but I understand that if you're veggie it might be a good option.

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HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 09/04/2021 12:27

Thanks @BIWI and @nowlook it's going to be a bit of a brain twister getting used to boot camp after 9 months of calorie counting!

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BIWI · 09/04/2021 13:09

@Tickledtrout

Popping on to say hello. Two stone to lose. Have had a knee injury but added weight isn't helping at all.
Any other vegetarians putting together a shopping list at the moment? I think I will have to eat some fish tbh. Literally can't stomach quorn.
Work busy next week so have cut out white and brown carbs this week to make next week a little easier. Stocking up on herbal teas too

@Tickledtrout check out the vegetarian recipe threads, stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic. Loads of stuff here.

Also, Rose Elliott has a low carb recipe book which has some lovely recipes.
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Squidelicious · 09/04/2021 14:24

@Tickledtrout I eat a lot of vegan meals.

I make raw brocoli balls instead of falafels, lots of soups, gazpacho, salads, nut minces, courgette, stir fry, curries, cauliflower steaks.

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Tickledtrout · 09/04/2021 14:56

Thanks all. I do have the Rose Elliott book. I think I'll probably see how it goes and add a few chia bits if the dairy and egg mix gets too much for me.
Have been tempted by an air fryer. I'll be eating differently to the family and think it'll help speed up meal times and keep me to plan.

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nowlook · 09/04/2021 15:23

You'll be able to do the dirty fries (on the recipe thread) especially well if you have an air fryer Trout Smile

I don't have one, because I'm a lousy cook.

That said, is there any reason why you need to eat much differently from the family? Are they also veggie?

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