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Low-carb bootcamp

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday

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BIWI · 06/04/2021 16:13

This one has been timed to finish just as the final lockdown restrictions are removed, so hopefully we can all emerge like butterflies from our chrysalis.

A few days left before we start on Monday, so time to start thinking and planning for the next 10 weeks.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • full sugar fizzy drinks
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)


For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, sausages, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from


The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (which is on the spreadsheet that I link to in the OP of each chat thread). Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from //www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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Tickledtrout · 09/04/2021 17:28

No they're big meat eaters @nowlook. And carb fiends.

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nowlook · 09/04/2021 17:36

@Tickledtrout

No they're big meat eaters *@nowlook*. And carb fiends.

Do you normally cook separately for yourself, then? That must be a bit of a pain in the tush Flowers.
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Tickledtrout · 09/04/2021 17:41

Sometimes, but usually I eat what they eat minus the meat or with an easy veggie - extra cheese, veggie burger instead of meat, or carbs!

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MrsKoala · 09/04/2021 19:08

Oooooh what a stroke of luck! I was just thinking I wonder if there’s a May boot camp I can join so popped over to see and see I’m right on time to prep and start with you all on Monday. For various familiar reasons I’ve put on a stone since Christmas. Homeschooling and working was hard and I had no time so relied on really carby quick and easy meals. Also H had a bit of a career move and our monthly income has reduced by £2k Shock which means my food budget has been cut and I’ve been eating cheap pasta and bread etc.

Before Easter I was lingering about the 11st 12 mark which wasn’t too bad, but then I have spent a week eating hot x buns for breakfast, lunch and dinner and am now 12st 5 and feel sluggish and crappy and my skin looks dull and saggy. So it’s time to get back on it.

My butchers have started doing nose to tail specials so I’m looking forward to trying cheaper recipes for pigs hearts and cheeks.

Nice to see some familiar names too. @Freetodowhatiwant I was wondering how you were doing the other day. So pleased you are doing well.

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ChristMyArse · 09/04/2021 19:11

I'm coming back! I've carried on with bootcamp from Jan bar Easter weekend (UTI from hell). Put on 2lbs and now lost them again so will KOKO and Be there for the 12th!!

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cheeseisthebest · 09/04/2021 20:05

My husband is vegan so I feel the pain of cooking many different meals!
I can also join the 42 club, 43 in August.

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PollyThePony · 09/04/2021 20:46

I am in please Smile

Doing it more for health benefits than for weight loss, so won't be weighing in and may start with bootcamp light, but undecided about that.

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TheGoodShipObvious · 09/04/2021 21:05

@Squidelicious would love to see some of your vegan recipes as we go along, I tend to be lazy and just stick meat and veg on a plate at the moment!

I’ve also ordered myself some new, smaller, dinner plates. Tesco Clubcard vouchers can be used for 3 x the face value at Denby, so I’m buying it slowly!

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Squidelicious · 09/04/2021 21:32

@TheGoodShipObvious Happy to share some :-)

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namechange5575 · 09/04/2021 22:11

I've been low carbing on and off over the years. I'm a good two stone under what I was for most of my 30s, and I'm pleased with that, but not been doing very well since Christmas. I was also wondering if there was a boot camp soon so very fortuitous timing for me. And I'm also 42, so that proves it's going to be a roaring success.

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Bestbees · 10/04/2021 08:02

@Squideliciousi would be interested in vegan recipes too please!

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TinyTroubleMaker · 10/04/2021 08:25

I've planned a day one set of meals, comes in at 21.2g carbs
Breakfast - 3 large eggs, 200g smoked lardons
Lunch - 100g chestnut mushrooms, 100g butter, 2 garlic cloves
Dinner - large chuck brisket burger, 56g picked gherkins
Drinks - 100ml single cream in espressos
Plus - water

The bit I'm going to struggle with is artificial sweeteners. I drink pints of water with sugar free squash in, meaning low carb but sweeteners. I do believe it's possible to train yourself to drink plain water.

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nowlook · 10/04/2021 08:40

I'm going to have to ask to see your workings @TinyTroubleMaker Grin

I know we don't count carbs on BC, but I can't see how you'd get to 21 with that menu. I am not the best at maths though!

Are you having anything with the mushrooms and the burger? Green veg would be nice. I love a bit of brisket.

Re sweeteners, I started by having fresh lime juice in my sparkling water and gradually cut it out over a whole bootcamp.

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Jollyholibobs · 10/04/2021 09:09

Morning everyone and welcome newbies. Just found this thread after noticing the last had gone quiet. Realised that was not like you lovely lot!

@Tickledtrout I am mostly vegetarian (some fish). My new favourite recipe is roasted celeriac. Roasted whole for about 2.5 hrs. You prick it all over with a fork (Otolenghi says specifically 40 times) and coat the skin in salt and olive oil. It oozes lovely caramelised goo. When it’s done you slice it into steaks, brush with the oily goo and grill the steaks then serve with your favourite creamy sauce.

Looking forward to BC. Feeling panicked by a bit of weight gain. Ok to be honest some complete Cathy twattery and 5lbs gain over the last month. Feeling exhausted. Carbs will not be helping. Posting this for accountability. I think I have got into a bit of a deprive and then binge cycle, which is a recurrent problem for me. Brought on by panic that I am getting out of control again. Can’t stop at a sensible portion of Greek yoghurt. Wondering if I should stop buying it but am so short of sources of protein.

Today’s plan
Breakfast scrambled eggs and mushrooms I don’t usually have breakfast but wonder if I need to be kinder to myself
Lunch green soup and nice cheese with red cabbage coleslaw
Dinner Cod and flgv including fennel

Water, black coffee. + plan to resist eating all the Greek yoghurt in the house.

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Bestbees · 10/04/2021 09:16

@TinyTroubleMaker where's the veg?

I would avoid counting the carbs and go for:
Breakfast 3 egg omelette with spinach and avo
Lunch mushrooms as you say but with big salad

Dinner I would wrap the burger in lettuce and serve with homemade slaw and more salad.

To me, having the veg is so much more sustainable. If it helps newbies planning here is my menu for today:

Breakfast:smoked seabass fillet and half an avocado. Coffee with cream.
Lunch: salad of spinach cucumber, pepper, another seabass fillet with a dressing made of blitzed avo, olive oil, lemon juice, basil and wild garlic. Might also have a boiled egg. I know a bit repetitive from breakfast, it's just what needed eating!
Dinner is tofu green Thai curry with peppers, mangetout, spinach a barenaked noodles. Greek yoghurt.

Tomorrow will be:
B creamy coffee
L probably some kind of green buttery soup with some boiled eggs on the side.
D bolagnase made with beef and pork mince served with either cauli rice or courgette.

I am trying to incorporate more veggie and vegan options in, just having meat/fish once a day with varying success!

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prettybird · 10/04/2021 09:17

@TinyTroubleMaker - for future reference, you don't need to plan to that nth degree Shock

We don't count carbs or weigh on this WoE: as long as you follow The Rules, your carbs will naturally be low Smile

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BIWI · 10/04/2021 09:19

@TinyTroubleMaker

I've planned a day one set of meals, comes in at 21.2g carbs
Breakfast - 3 large eggs, 200g smoked lardons
Lunch - 100g chestnut mushrooms, 100g butter, 2 garlic cloves
Dinner - large chuck brisket burger, 56g picked gherkins
Drinks - 100ml single cream in espressos
Plus - water

The bit I'm going to struggle with is artificial sweeteners. I drink pints of water with sugar free squash in, meaning low carb but sweeteners. I do believe it's possible to train yourself to drink plain water.

@TinyTroubleMaker

Firstly, well done on planning! That's really important and is key to success.

However ...

  • we don't count carbs on Bootcamp (or calories) so no need to do that


  • that said, I'm astonished that your carbs add up to that much because there is so little veg in your day! Rule 4 of Bootcamp is that most of your carbs should come from veg and salad - yet apart from the mushrooms and gherkins there's very little in your day.


  • therefore I assume that the carbs must be coming from the sugar being used to pickle the gherkins?


  • you've been very specific about the weights of your food - what about the quantity of water? Again, check Bootcamp rules to see how much you should be drinking


  • re water, you could drink sparkling water, which has the benefit of a different texture. Or add slices of lemon or lime or cucumber to plain water. Some Bootcampers make up an infusion with fruit tea bags and drink that cold.
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prettybird · 10/04/2021 09:22

And as @Bestbees points out, where are the veg? Shock

The majority of the carbs you're eating should come from a FLGV (a Fuck Load of Green/Good Veg Wink). Checking the list on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness will help in choosing the lower carb veg - but you do need to eat plenty of them.

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MrsKoala · 10/04/2021 09:43

@TinyTroubleMaker as BIWI said you can make up herbal tea and put it in the fridge. Every night when I’m on BC I make a litre of very berry tea (2 bags of a red berry fruit tea from Lidl which is a bit squash like) and a litre of plain peppermint tea (again 2 bags of Lidl’s own cheap one) with half a lemon squeezed in and another half put in thinly sliced. Then I put them in the fridge overnight and they are ready to drink thruout the next day. I also mix soda water (I invested in a soda stream because I drink so much) with lime juice and mint leaves for a refreshing evening drink predinner reminiscent of a mojito.

There’s also hot herbal teas which I think count too and I love some of the pukka tea range particularly the peppermint and liquorice, which is strangely sweet and not liquoricey at all, and is nice after my evening meal.

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JimmyJabs · 10/04/2021 09:54

I took to making my own tisanes earlier this year, so there are endless possibilities for herb/spice combinations. Lemongrass and tarragon is great, and when I felt really sick the other day after my Covid vaccine, ginger and cinnamon helped. I sometimes use a bit of orange or lemon peel - do you think this would still be ok? It's small quantities and it's just steeped in water rather than being directly eaten. Anyway, these are good alternatives to squash and it's fun to experiment with flavour combinations.

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StuntNun · 10/04/2021 09:59

Lidl are selling rollitos from Thursday if anyone needs low carb snacks.

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday
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ZiggZagg · 10/04/2021 10:00

Hello all, just checking in.
Really can't wait for this bootcamp, no faffing around this time Wink

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TinyTroubleMaker · 10/04/2021 10:07

Thank you. Still getting to grips with the rules.
Yes the carb count came from the pickled gherkins.
I'm using an app called weightlossresources, hope it's s accurate.
Will pop to the shops today to stock up on green veg, and herbal teas!

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TinyTroubleMaker · 10/04/2021 10:10

Where is the spreadsheet of veg please?

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prettybird · 10/04/2021 10:18

If you look at the final weigh in thread from the last Boot Camp, the first post will have a link to the "Spreadsheet of Fabulousness". One of its tabs outlines the carb counts of different veg (and fruit but we don't have any fruit for the first two weeks).

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