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Low-carb bootcamp

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday

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BIWI · 06/04/2021 16:13

This one has been timed to finish just as the final lockdown restrictions are removed, so hopefully we can all emerge like butterflies from our chrysalis.

A few days left before we start on Monday, so time to start thinking and planning for the next 10 weeks.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • full sugar fizzy drinks
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)


For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, sausages, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from


The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list (which is on the spreadsheet that I link to in the OP of each chat thread). Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from //www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
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Nateismine · 10/04/2021 18:58

Thanks Biwi for the fat help.
Next question- can you recommend a low carb protein powder- finding it difficult to get carb content info?

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prettybird · 10/04/2021 19:04

Wink

They don't fit with the ethos of Boot Camp, where we are encouraged to eat real food, especially a FLGV Grin

It took me a while to get my head around but this is not a high protein diet. Protein stays the same, in the middle and it's the fat and carbs that flip around. The clue is in the HFLC acronym: High Fat Low Carb

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Bestbees · 10/04/2021 19:37

Thank you @Squidelicious. I make shasuka with eggs, is it the same but you pop avo in instead? What's the green one?

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Squidelicious · 10/04/2021 20:15

@Bestbees Yes, just pop in half avocados about 6 minutes from the end of the cooking time.

Green one is just a spinach based, I often do kale, spinach, leek and green beans sliced up with herbs and then garlic, onion.

I use the almond alpro yoghurt as well mostly.

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MrsKoala · 10/04/2021 20:48

@Squidelicious do you eat low carb vegan all the time? Sorry if I’ve missed it. I’ve tried but I end up starving and eating all the time and spending a fortune. I absolutely love the coconut collaborative vanilla yogurt tho, so was thinking of making a few of the lc meals a week vegan and seeing how I go. There’s also a butter replacement I tried called vegan block which is fairly low carb I seem to recall. I’ll have to check again if I want to use it on bc tho.

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Squidelicious · 10/04/2021 20:52

@MrsKoala No - not at the moment (mainly due to finances) - I try and do mostly low carb, some fish (for brain health) and a little meat, but if I am eating animal products I do try and ensure they are higher quality.

It's also quite hard to shop around for low carb vegan products as many of the shops that sell them are still closed and only doing delivery over a certain amount here...

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BIWI · 10/04/2021 22:14

@Squidelicious

Vegan breakfast ideas for next week, often with bullet proof coffee. Some ideas for those of you who were asking.

Monday : avocado red Shakshuka red
Tuesday : spicy Tofu Scramble with kale and spinnach
Wednesday : avocado green shaskshuka
Thursday : Green veg stuffed capsicum
Friday : Tofu quiches with green veg (leftover veg)

@Squidelicious

We don't really endorse bulletproof coffee on Bootcamp as it's not really giving you many/enough nutrients.
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BIWI · 10/04/2021 22:14

@Nateismine

Thanks Biwi for the fat help.
Next question- can you recommend a low carb protein powder- finding it difficult to get carb content info?

@Nateismine

Not really sure why you would need one - Bootcamp is about eating real food, as unprocessed as possible.
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ouchmyfeet · 10/04/2021 22:17

[quote Jollyholibobs]**@BIWI* and @StuntNun* thanks for your except explanations. I need to venture further afield to find proper Greek yog. Local Tesco doesn’t stock. Sounds like it would be worth it.[/quote]
Tesco's own brand is proper Greek yoghurt and is 10% fat

April Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp - starts on Monday
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Staffy1 · 10/04/2021 22:39

Are tomatoes allowed?

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colouringindoors · 10/04/2021 22:45

My first official mumsnet bootcamp! Been following the rules before, but hoping bootcamp helps me keep going beyond my current 4 week max!

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Chunkymonkey123 · 11/04/2021 08:26

I’ve got the fast 800 recipe book which has some good low carb recipes in it. Can anyone recommend another cookbook or website please?

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Chunkymonkey123 · 11/04/2021 08:51

Actually I’ve just found the recipe threads on here, loads of great ideas!

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nowlook · 11/04/2021 08:58

@Chunkymonkey123

I’ve got the fast 800 recipe book which has some good low carb recipes in it. Can anyone recommend another cookbook or website please?

I've mainly just used the recipe threads (tried and tested), but Neris and India's Idiot-Proof Diet is often referred to if you're hankering for another book Smile
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prettybird · 11/04/2021 08:58

I was just about to point you in the direction of the recipe threads Smile

There are one or two that aren't "pinned" (eg, for after the 1st 2 weeks the Desserts and other Sweet things thread) as there is a limit on how many that can be pinned, so its worth scrolling down too.

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nowlook · 11/04/2021 09:02

Oh, I wondered why I had to hunt for the chicken one the other day prettybird! Every day's a school day.

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Squidelicious · 11/04/2021 09:34

@Chunkymonkey123 pinterest is really great, and free. The added bonus is it shows similar pins at the bottom so if you search "Keto Mackarel Recipe" it will give you lots of key ones, and then if you select one it will show you similar. Great if you are ingredient swapping.

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Squidelicious · 11/04/2021 09:35

@BIWI I think I get enough nutrients from the breakfasts - apart from for fat which is why I have the coffee too sometimes.

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venusandmars · 11/04/2021 10:11

@BIWI I think I get enough nutrients from the breakfasts - apart from for fat which is why I have the coffee too sometimes

I think that some keto diets (which bootcamp is not) push bulletproof coffee as a way of avoiding the majority of carbs, so people have butter and cream and caffeine instead of any other more nutritious breakfast. Or people who are not habitual breakfast eaters, have it effctively 'drinking their calories' as @stuntnun puts it. And @Squidelicious your breakfasts sound delicious, I might borrow some of those ideas.

I think that as long as I'm eating lots of other healthy veg, then the occasional BPcoffee is fine - not much difference between putting the butter on my broccoli or putting it into my coffee (as long as I'm also eating my broccoli, of course). My problem is that it can become an indulgent habit, with a lot of calories, and close to my goal I can't afford that too often. Plus it does make me satiated which means I'm likely to miss lunch - OK if it's planned, but not OK if I'm skipping something healthier.

I do like to make bullet-proof soup, which is usually some kind of chicken and green veg soup whizzed up with butter and cream.

B - avocado salsa (chopped avocado, chopped tomato, chopped spinach with olive oil, fresh coriander, tabasco sauce) on lettuce leaves and celery.
Late lunch - roast chicken, broccoli, pak choi, oven roast turnip

Will make soup and maybe have some for supper.

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devoncreamtea · 11/04/2021 10:16

Loving the earring chat! I have only one functioning piercing as the other randomly closed up! My daughter has offered to repierce with a needle - so far I’ve politely declined🤣

Greek yogurt is mystery to me - what is the difference between greek style and Greek? I like to have organic things where I can, so I often get Rachel organic or Yeo Valley - but bc has alerted me the fact these are style rather than Greek.
I think I eat too many avocados! I have got through stacks this week. Expensive habit! Also have been eating bacon which I will limit from Monday as I know it is v.processed and not ideal.
Are things like tinned mackerel good options? I’ve got loads left in cupboard from lockdown!

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JimmyJabs · 11/04/2021 10:30

Proper Greek yoghurt is really hard to find! The only big supermarket I have to hand is Morrisons, and they only had Total 0% or 5% fat, plus lots of Greek "style" options. The low fat industry has definitely done a number on us all. I got the one from their posh range in the end - it has 10% fat and seems to be the real thing.

I had boiled eggs with buttered asparagus to dip in this morning. That's definitely only going to be a Sunday morning sort of breakfast (bit faffy for a weekday) but it was very nice 😁

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devoncreamtea · 11/04/2021 10:45

Oh great idea Jimmy - I’ll add that to my breakfast rota!

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Rayna37 · 11/04/2021 10:50

Tinned mackerel is a great option Devon I quite often have mackerel in olive oil in a bit of a sauce made from leftover creme fraiche and wholegrain mustard with my packed lunch salad.

I've rambled about yogurt at length on threads gone by Blush. The 5% fat total/Fage is fine, it's still low carb and pretty solid and satisfying which is really what you're needing the fat for. I also like the Yeo Valley kerned yogurt, which is high fat and low carb. Really, just spend a bit of time reading the labels in the yogurt section and aim for below 4g of carbs. The big Greek yogurts are often on offer and have a long shelf life so stock up when you see them!

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StuntNun · 11/04/2021 11:07

I agree Venusandmars it's not necessarily that bulletproof or creamy coffees are bad but when you end up having two or three instead of food then you're displacing micronutrients from your diet. They're also significantly easier to "overeat" on since they're not bulky.

Devoncreamtea Greek yogurt is strained to remove the liquid whey and make it thicker. Greek style yogurt is thickened by adding powdered milk. Greek yogurt is more nutritious, lower carb, higher protein and with a better protein profile to Greek style yogurt. Greek style yogurt is still better than natural yogurt for this way of eating so don't let that put you off if it's all you can get. As I mentioned upthread it's really easy to make Greek yogurt yourself if it's something you're having difficulty buying.

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BIWI · 11/04/2021 11:26

If you can only find 5% fat yoghurt - which most of the smaller 'convenience'-type supermarkets like Sainsbury's Local and Tesco Express seem to stock - you can up the fat by stirring in some double cream. The extra thick cream with yoghurt is a lovely, satisfying combination.

@Staffy1

Are tomatoes allowed?

Yes they are. Despite being a fruit, they are low in carbs. However, different types of tomatoes are higher - Sainsbury's gives a value of 2.9g carbs per 200g for their loose and vine tomatoes, but baby plum tomatoes and cherry tomatoes are 3.4g per 100g. All still in the allowable range though.

Tinned tomatoes vary too. Again, using Sainsbury's as an example:

Hubbard's (the new manifestation of the original Basics range) 3.8g carbs per 100g for peeled plum tomatoes; 3.1g for chopped plum tomatoes

Sainsbury's own brand, Italian chopped tomatoes in tomato juice, 3.8g carbs per 100g
Sainsbury's own brand, organic Italian chopped tomatoes in tomato juice, 2.8g carbs per 400g

KTC chopped tomatoes in tomato juice, 3.0g carbs per 100g

These sound low, but remember a can of tomatoes is 400g, so the final amount of carbs will be four times that much. Bear that in mind when following a recipe or just chucking a can of tomatoes into a casserole or a stew, and consider how many people that's going to feed!

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