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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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DataColour · 18/01/2021 13:42

It was really nice. I substituted shallots for onions and didn't add any sugar!

DataColour · 18/01/2021 13:44

Had a yummy lunch: omelette with feta, mint, cream and chorizo. Served with avocado and spinach with olive oil.

CowGurl · 18/01/2021 14:08

Thanks for the congrats Smile Hubby now rolls his eyes whenever I mention it, so I might shut up about it for a bit Grin … my next milestone is to get under 13 stone, which I should be able to manage this bootcamp.

I tried butter and eggs for the first time, as recommended in the threads, and it was yum.

Turnedouttoes - So glad to hear you are feeling better!

Bestbees - Thanks for the Thai larb recipe. Looks delicious, and we have pork mince in the freezer!

Ouchmyfeet - re: water, I find that I have to set myself water drinking targets throughout the day. I have a litre of plain water poured out in the kitchen along with a pint with electrolytes in it and work though those by a fixed time, and then refill. Repeat as necessary. I try and get most of down by 3pm to avoid too many trips to the loo in the night.

DataColour - the paneer butter masala looks right up my street! Thanks for posting the link.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 18/01/2021 14:10

Thanks, Bumble! Did you let it defrost first, or just chuck it in?

prettybird · 18/01/2021 14:19

My official weigh-in after one week (I started a week early so that I could legitimately transition to Boot Camp Light and have alcohol on Burns Night Wink) is 11st 8lb - so down just under 3lb Smile

Less than 6lb to go to get back to where I got to before Christmas GrinBlush

52andblue · 18/01/2021 14:54

Can anyone point me to some SOUP recipies please?

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 18/01/2021 15:04

Biwi, thank you, yes I have now seen the post and logged in.

Just wanted to add for anyone using the barenaked noodles/rice, don't forget to rinse it first, otherwise it smells like rotten fish Grin. I nearly missed that the first time I bought them. Also Holland and Barrett were doing 0 carb pasta on their buy one full price and one for a penny offers, so this might still be on.

With the teapigs tea, the jasmine pearls is my favourite, but very expensive at £5.65 a packet. Their chai tea is nice, as is the pukka 3 ginger.

It's funny, but since I started this woe my taste buds have changed and I now like really strong flavours of food and drinks.

pinkpinkeverywhere · 18/01/2021 15:10

I'm loving reading what everyone is having for their meals, giving me lots of inspiration!
Could anyone recommend some scales (person weighting not food) as mine are old and I could do with something more reliable.

ouchmyfeet · 18/01/2021 15:19

@52andblue

Can anyone point me to some SOUP recipies please?
@52andblue Jamie Oliver's cauliflower cheese soup is delicious

www.food.com/recipe/cauliflower-cheese-soup-369323

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 18/01/2021 15:23

@AthelstaneTheUnready I use frozen broccoli, yes it can be a bit soggy! So just bear that in mind when adding whatever other liquid your using. Or defrost first and squeeze some of the water out.

I have made it past post-lunch snack time! I’m at my hungriest about 15 minutes after I’ve eaten lunch... it is pure habit, I had an espresso, chugged half a litre of water and grit my teeth!

Bumbledee · 18/01/2021 15:31

@AthelstaneTheUnready I always put frozen veg straight in unless I am putting it in the oven or if it’s spinach or Brussels sprouts. As @Justcallmecaptainobvious mentioned defrosted broccoli is very soggy, but if you chuck it straight in a curry or stew that needs to simmer it will cook through to the right texture. :)

AthelstaneTheUnready · 18/01/2021 16:01

Thanks both for confirming! Will try defrosting first.

Turnedouttoes · 18/01/2021 16:09

@pinkpinkeverywhere I love my Renpho ones from Amazon. They tell you all kinds of other things like your body fat % and how much body water you have (although I’ve no idea how accurate these are). The app is really nice to look at as it’s all graphs so you can easily see the downwards trend.
Mine were a bit cheaper I think but the same as these www.amazon.co.uk/RENPHO-Bluetooth-Bathroom-Skeletal-Metabolic/dp/B077RXM292/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=renpho+scales&sprefix=renp&tag=mumsnetforu03-21&qid=1610986148&sr=8-3

pinkpinkeverywhere · 18/01/2021 16:17

Thank you @Turnedouttoes for the link. They are really reasonably priced too. I keep looking but get stuck down the rabbit hole of reviews and indecision overwhelms me!

NisekoWhistler · 18/01/2021 16:24

I've started this week as I had Coronavirus last week.

So far so good, very much determined to stick to it this time.
Any suggestions for what to have with salmon for dinner tonight?

Ifeelmuchlessfat · 18/01/2021 16:26

@CowGurl just popping on to say 👋 to all, and bloody well done to cowgirl. “ as of today I am NO LONGER OBESE!!!! “

I had that moment last boot camp and am now, slowly!!, working my way down to normal Grin

Bestbees · 18/01/2021 16:34

Wowzer this is moving fast!

Not sure who asked for soup recipes but I follow this method:

Fry onion/shallot/leek and garlic in oil/butter. Add spices or herbs.
If using raw meat add and fry now
Add allowed veg and saute
Add stock and simmer
Blitz to desired consistency
Add extra fats/protein like shredded chicken, cheese, cream etc.

Using this you can make e. G. Bacon and leek, green veg and cream, broc and Stilton, spicy veg and chicken. You may have wanted more specific ideas but I just mix and match with what I have.

Thanks for all the curry tips, will go for shashlick and aubergine side. I have already done a week of bc so not too worried.

Hope everyone is managing to avoid the mid afternoon munchies!

LittleMy77 · 18/01/2021 16:42

@NisekoWhistler roast broccoli? I do mine in the oven tossed in chilli flakes and parmesan

Or roast veg? Big portobello mushroom?

Ifeelmuchlessfat · 18/01/2021 16:43

@pinkpinkeverywhere I second the Renpho scales - they have revolutionised my weighing experience... I love all the other bits of info they give like body fat % and bmi, and watching the numbers go in the right direction even though they might be a bit fictional some of them.

@AthelstaneTheUnready apologies, I thought I couldn’t access the spreadsheet but have now done so so pls ignore my request. I also went on to check my weight at the end of the last boot camp and am starting this one just over a pound lighter. Losing weight over Christmas is absolutely unheard of, especially as I had several days off, but I kept up the IF, kept exercising, and reigned it in after 2-3 days at Xmas and then again at new year rather than plough on regardless and put on a stone which I normally do.

Not sure I’m going to be losing too much this time around, even though I have at least a stone to go, but keeping up with you all keeps me focused. Let’s see where we are at Easter... good luck all.

Loving the soup recipes btw.

Hopeislost · 18/01/2021 17:03

Congrats to those that have had early losses! And thanks for all the lovely meal ideas - cauliflower cheese soup sounds yum!

I did my official weigh-in this morning and am 0.5lb up from the end of the last bootcamp. Am looking forward to a strict 2 weeks as I was ping-ponging around 15 stone for all of December. Hoping to say goodbye to the 15s for good!

pinkpinkeverywhere · 18/01/2021 17:03

@NisekoWhistler we're having spinach in garlic butter and the broccoli as suggested by MyLittle77. I also saw a lovely recipe for braised fennel which I'm going to try this week.

PastramiNoRye · 18/01/2021 17:12

Is anyone else experiencing a very dry mouth even though they've been chugging water all day?

BIWI · 18/01/2021 17:16

It means you need salt @PastramiNoRye.

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PastramiNoRye · 18/01/2021 17:17

Oh, thank you! Will get on that!

SilverStarburst · 18/01/2021 17:33

Hi, I had the spreadsheet last week when I entered my weight, but it has now disappeared! I am a bit rubbish with technology but managed last bootcamp, still have those sheets but not the new ones. Please can anyone help?