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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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BIWI · 18/01/2021 17:34

If you scroll up the thread, @SilverStarbust, you'll see that Athelstane has posted a link to the new spreadsheet.

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SilverStarburst · 18/01/2021 17:37

Thanks BIWI I have pressed on the link but a message comes up saying I need to request access, so not sure what is happening?

SilverStarburst · 18/01/2021 17:41

I have requested access via the message, I will see what happens.

Midlifemission · 18/01/2021 17:52

@pinkpinkeverywhere I bought the Renpho scales last bootcamp and also love them !

ruple · 18/01/2021 17:52

Hi everyone

This is my first bootcamp, I lost 3lbs last week just by cutting down on carbs/sugar so I'm pleased with that. No sugar is going to be a huge issue for me!!

I fast and do OMAD so today I've had celery with salmon pate, nigella's meatzza (didn't really enjoy this) and 2 babybels. Not enough veg I know but I've had plenty all week. Lots of water but probably not enough.

What is the most weight anyone has lost on a previous boot camp? Just curious.

Also if anyone has any tips regarding tea with cream, how do I stop the cream from separating? I can't drink black tea 😫

Thanks @BIWI and rest of bootcamp gang for all the work you put in to make this happen! I'm kicking myself that I didn't try this sooner.

cheeseisthebest · 18/01/2021 17:57

Hi everyone love how motivated and positive everyone is on here, its such a nice atmosphere when theres so much rubbish going on.
I also have electronic scales that bluetooth to my phone and give me a little graph of weight, bmi etc.
Today I've had 2 teas, one coffee all with milk. (Is that ok? Ran out of cream) About 4 glasses of water. I need to drink 2.5litres a day. Will build up to it.

Late breakfast of boiled eggs and ham
Late lunch of veg soup
Lamb stew for tea with green veg
Also had a chunk of applewood smoked cheddar which is delicious.

I'm 10st 5 now. Was 10 st 10 on 4th Jan so I'm really happy with that loss. Tried to add it to the spreadsheet, I could click on the button but couldnt write. I'm not very techy!

Well done everyone on a good first day. Onwards and downwards!

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 18/01/2021 18:04

Does anyone know of a good documentary about low carb? Documentaries tend to be the best way of getting DH on board...

DulcetMoans · 18/01/2021 18:20

@justcallmecaptainobvious I watched fat fiction recently which was good. It's in amazon prime.

BIWI · 18/01/2021 18:29

@SilverStarburst

try this

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BIWI · 18/01/2021 18:30

@Justcallmecaptainobvious have you checked out the resources on the spreadsheet? There might be something there

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BIWI · 18/01/2021 18:32

@ruple welcome! Sounds like you've got off to a good start!

Just be careful though:

I fast and do OMAD so today I've had celery with salmon pate, nigella's meatzza (didn't really enjoy this) and 2 babybels. Not enough veg I know but I've had plenty all week. Lots of water but probably not enough.

Saying you've had plenty of veg on other days, or that you've not had enough water is a slippery slope! You need to make sure that you're eating plenty of veg as that's where your carbs will be coming from. This is not a no carb diet - you need the nutrition from the veg.

And getting all the water every day is also key. It really does make a difference.

OMAD may also be a bit problematic - @StuntNun knows more about this than I do, but I think she's said before that two meals is better for weight loss than one.

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GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 18/01/2021 18:33

Evening all. Today's food:

B: buttery scrambled eggs, bit of smoked salmon
L: spinach leaves with olive oil, salami and blue cheese
D: tuna steaks, prawns, sautéed spinach and asparagus, padron peppers.

I can tell I'm getting back into it, as I haven't needed to snack. Though I have had three creamy coffees over the course of the day. Blush

ShagMeRiggins · 18/01/2021 18:36

Hey y’all. I’m a long-term Bootcampers since May 2017 and have lot 56lbs. Still have 34lbs to go until I hit the very top end of a “healthy” BMI.

Not that inspirational for many of you but I wanted to welcome everyone trying this for the first time, no matter how much weight you have to lose.

I also wanted to say that this is what you make of it. All diets works. It’s up to you to decide which weight-loss programme you follow. Most importantly, it’s up to you to decide which programme is sustainable.

It’s taken me much longer to lose my 56lbs, and I’ve bumped and grinded along the way, but I always viewed this as a commitment to a new way of eating.

Think about that, please, and think about what you want from a Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) way of eating.

It doesn’t mean you can never have dessert, it doesn’t mean you can never have cheese on toast, it doesn’t mean you can never have beans or alcohol or whatever you love.

It means changing your way of eating and ridding yourself of various addictions and absolute, poor nutrition crap.

Also, had anyone else realised today is supposedly Blue Monday? What an incredibly positive way to start the WORST DAY OF THE YEAR! Ha ha ha!

BIWI · 18/01/2021 18:37

Today:

No breakfast - as a seasoned low carber I usually fast. Had two black coffees during the morning.
Lunch - a Seriously Low carb roll (all the talk about them today really whetted my appetite for one!), with egg mayo and a little chopped shallot
Dinner will be - celeriac and leeks baked in chicken stock, topped with Parmesan, pork fillet in a cream and mustard sauce, and pan-fried broccoli, courgette, red pepper, shallots and green beans.

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BIWI · 18/01/2021 18:37

... and 2 litres of water down so far!

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BrassicaBabe · 18/01/2021 18:38

D: HM coleslaw and roast chicken leg.

R-E-A-L-L-Y feeling the pull of wine this evening. Boredom and stress about a meeting tomorrow is kicking in. Will resist. But reserve the right to be grumpy about it Grin

nowlook · 18/01/2021 18:38

Evening all! Lovely to read all your news.

For Burns Night suppers, I suppose you could substitute any nut meal like ground almonds for the oats in the haggis? Not ideal, but aren't the oats just there for general nuttiness rather than bulk? Huge disclaimer: I am not Scottish, so don't flame me Grin

For curry nights inflicted by your DH or SO, I recommend tandoori chicken or chicken tikka and then your own salad and raita (just in case there's hidden sugar lurking in the takeaway version). BBC Food has a good recipe.

I too struggle with homeschooling. DS1 is fine as he has live lessons, but DS2 is just given assignments/ppts on Teams. Today he helped DH take down a stud wall, so I guess that was DT Wink

Finally, huge congrats to those who are no longer obese, are fitting into unseasonal denim or are otherwise losers!

I'm a day behind you because my Morrisons delivery has only just arrived, bringing gallons of sparkling water, limes, unsweetened soya milk and 10% fat Greek yoghurt. Still, today's menu:

  • B: Tea (full fat milk)
-L:mushroom and spinach omelette -T: Not sure. Anyone else convince themselves there's nothing to eat once the shopping arrives? Grin
SilverStarburst · 18/01/2021 18:39

Sorted out my tech problem, I am so daft!

Anyway a good first day, discharged from hospital!

Have had 2 boiled eggs with green salad and mayo for lunch, a couple of mint green teas, water and having chicken breast stuffed with garlic and herb cream cheese, wrapped in bacon and roasted, with roasted broccoli and mayo. If I am still hungry will have greek yoghurt and cinnamon.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 18/01/2021 18:39

bumped and grinded along the way

Grin Confused

Disco Queen! Grin

Razzlefrazzle · 18/01/2021 18:39

Hi. I'm starting this at the heaviest I've been since after having DS 10. Christmas hasn't helped but it's been creeping up since October. I'm eating out of boredom rather than hunger and, while it's much better since cutting sugar last week, I'm still scared of falling into the trap of grazing in the afternoons. Today has been hard, even though I'm not even slightly hungry. Any suggestions for something (needs to have strong flavour) I could nibble? I know I can do this but self sabotage is a problem for me. Thanks

nowlook · 18/01/2021 18:45

@BrassicaBabe I'm doing the 30 Day Alcohol Experiment, which is interesting. There's an app if you haven't done it before. 18 days without wine now, which is the longest I've managed since I was last pregnant (almost 12 years ago). The downside is that I am dull as ditchwater without it Hmm

nowlook · 18/01/2021 18:53

@Razzlefrazzle I bought these in an earlier BC and they helped until I got into my stride!

Pork Puffs

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 18/01/2021 18:55

@Razzlefrazzle an espresso helped me today with that boredom-hunger. I’ve previously kept jars of pickles (beetroot, gherkin, ginger) in the fridge for a flavour shot! (I assume they’re ok, as long as pickled in straight vinegar not with sugar etc).

Almahart · 18/01/2021 18:59

[quote DataColour]Here the recipe for paneer butter masala www.indianhealthyrecipes.com/paneer-butter-masala-restaurant-style/[/quote]
This looks amazing thanks!

I started at the beginning of January so am now in week three.

Bf was yoghurt with berries
Lunch hm watercress soup
Dinner prawn curry with yoghurt

All delicious.

My best January stodge fall back is the corned beef celeriac hash on the recipe thread with a fried egg on top. Good after a walk outside

BrassicaBabe · 18/01/2021 19:05

@nowlook I did the Alcohol Experiment back in June. I "liked" it a lot. HmmIt helped me understand so much about the pull of drinking. I'm learning I was using it as a crutch to help me relax. I'm really struggling with that today.