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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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NotwatchingSpooks · 20/01/2021 10:43

Bumbledee the other thing I did was to write down my starting BMI angainst my weight so

10 stone 13lb - BMI 28.1
10 stone 12lb - BMI 27.9
10 stone 11lb - BMI 27.7
Etc etc....

This was a tip from another poster, and I have found it really useful as it gives you different goals to achieve, which may not align with half stones off. I also add the dates I get there, as it gives me some other data to refer back to. As BIWI says it is best to set mini goals. I always think of this when setting goals, it may help you.

My husbands company did some charitable work in Africa, they went out for about 2 weeks and the task was to build a pipeline to bring fresh water into a village as the villagers had to carry the water everyday. The staff who went out were terribly sad that in the time they had, they could only cover half the distance between the water source and the village and had to explain that to the villagers, I think they were disappointed and felt they had not achieved the goal. But, the villagers response was to smile delightedly and to reply that they were extremely grateful as they now had to only carry it half the way. I remember my husband coming home and telling me about this, as he and I are so used to working to goals where the measure of success is completion and there is no half way point. I think this thought process can often spill over into our personal lives and that whilst targets are important with weight loss, it is also important to remember that every ounce off is a health benefit, a slightly lower BMI and less to carry on the knees.

plumstone · 20/01/2021 10:52

@BIWI added to the vegetarian recipe thread!!

BIWI · 20/01/2021 10:58

Thank you!

And thank you @Lyrata for that link - I've just managed to get 15% off my first order, so have some yummy fillet steak on its way to us now!

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prettybird · 20/01/2021 10:59

My very mini goal is to get back under 11.5 stone. Next one is to get back to where I'd got to before Christmas which was 11st 2.75lb.

My next goal (a "big" one is to get under 11st) and my overall goal is to get to 10st 7lb (but I'll accept 8 or 9lb Wink) by 6 April, my 60th birthday (Shock - how did that happen?! Wink)

Lyrata · 20/01/2021 11:05

Hahaha @Oneborneverydecade - that has totally brightened my morning. Sadly I’m 30 and single which I believe is meant to be far less aspirational. But I am very glad that my exciting life of jogging, crochet and toting bags of bones around London comes across as reincarnation worthy. (I would have gone for Emma Watson myself).

Bestbees · 20/01/2021 11:14

Loving all the comments about small goals. @NotwatchingSpooks that's a lovely story.

I feel absolutely awful today. Headache which I don't think is carb flu/low salt as I have masses. Have had salt in my coffee this morning too. Had a covid test today as am a teacher but that was negative. Any ideas or just a bug? Headache, naseaus, exhausted. Have a herbal tea on the go and resisting the biscuits!

BIWI · 20/01/2021 11:21

@Bestbees - best way to find out if it's low carb related is to up your carbs a little - try having a piece of wholemeal toast and see if that makes you feel better.

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ZiggZagg · 20/01/2021 11:23

biwi I definitely do mean using seriously low carb bread!!Blush

Thanks for the good luck everyone, I have managed to have a bit of sleep so will now start getting ready, need energy to wash my hair but feel really ill today I may have to have a "posh pony" Grin and lots of make up!!

shagmeriggins taught me to use accessories, so will be wearing lots of fabulous jewelry and specs to seem more interesting Wink

cheeseisthebest · 20/01/2021 11:37

@plumstone that sounds delicious I'm going to try that. Is it homemade cauli rice or the frozen stuff?
Like all the mini goals.
I'm 5ft 1.
Was 10st 10.5 on 4th Jan
Now 10st 5lb
So 5.5 lost. Really happy with that.

Thank you all for the exercise inspiration!

prettybird · 20/01/2021 11:41

Have just weighed myself after my exercise DVD Wink and I'm 11st 7.5lb - so only 3/4lb to go until I achieve my first mini-goal Smile

Bumbledee · 20/01/2021 11:48

@NotwatchingSpooks that is such an inspiring story. My lack of sleep is making me very emotional reading that.

Inspired by all your methods I am going to start the Spreadsheet of the lost pounds tonight.

plumstone · 20/01/2021 11:49

@cheeseisthebest it was home made, I removed the leaves cut the stalk and then grated it using the large side of the grater - its super messy - that could be me though, i have limited worktop space so it always looks like a bomb has hit it by the time i plate up!

plumstone · 20/01/2021 11:50

my mini goal is 12.7lbs which brings me back to where I was at the start of the last bootcamp. Longer term is 11st for easter and then 10 for the start of August.

When is Easter - this may impact the goal setting!!

Bumbledee · 20/01/2021 11:51

@plumstone that sounds delicious. I've also tried a pilau with cauliflower rice, veggies and spices and have a biriyani on my list for the weekend. I'll let you know how that turns out.

Bestbees · 20/01/2021 11:51

@BIWI if I do that I suspect I will be off on a slippery slope! Will see how I feel after lunch, and will make sure there is maybe some carby veg like carrots and see how it goes. Maybe some blueberries in yoghurt. Given that I ate like this all week I cant see why it is striking me now, is it like a build up thing?

Early risers hope you are still going strong!

DataColour · 20/01/2021 11:56

@ouchmyfeet Haven't read the whole thread so not sure if somebody else had posted a recipe, but I made some coleslaw the other day. I just shredded white and red cabbage and mixed in a couple of tablespoons of mayonnaise and a dollop of Greek yoghurt and mixed everything. Just adjust the yogurt and mayo to get the right consistency. Then squeezed in a lemon, some mustard, salt and pepper, all to taste and mix again.

I'm feeling pretty hungry all the time, despite sticking to the rules. It's a hollow feeling in my stomach. Haven't given into any cravings yet though. Hope the hunger passes?!

Yesterdays food:
B:Fried egg, bacon and spinach fried in butter
L: Chicken chipolatas (1g carb) with mushrooms fried in butter, coleslaw home made and spinach salad drizzled with olive oil.
Snack: 2 more chipolatas and a chunk of brie
D: roast chicken with lots of crispy skin, celeriac dauphinoise, cabbage, leeks in butter. bit of gravy.
Snack: more cheese, greek yoghut with cinnamon

Today:
B: boiled eggs with butter, some kale crips
L: home made babaganoush, halloumi, salad with olive oil, perhaps peppers and manegout to dip in the baba ganoush, maybe some feta
D: left over roast chicken made in to a chicken broth with vegetables, ramen style. I won't he having noodles though with mine.
Any ideas on how to introduce fats in to this meal? I have plenty of toasted sesame oil on hand to drizzle, which I will do.

plumstone · 20/01/2021 11:56

@Bumbledee please report back - I miss curry!!

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 20/01/2021 12:00

Ah, @DataColour, you’ve reminded me of a question I had - how to add fat to a stir fry. I have turkey, big bag of veg. I put toasted sesame oil on it too, but that’s so strongly flavoured I only like a little. It’s not really a butter/cheese meal!

Ninkanink · 20/01/2021 12:19

I’d just add lots of vegetable oil/olive oil/whichever oil you like to the stir fry itself, then drizzle your sesame oil over as usual.

Sorry already forgotten name but pp who asked about hunger - it’s likely you’re just not having enough oil/fats/butter. Or it could be thirst - apparently a lot of people actually tend to misinterpret thirst as hunger.

It usually takes about a week and then the physical hunger goes. Some people do still struggle with emotional hunger though (I do, sometimes) but you push through that and learn strategies for dealing with it. Or if you’re in the week leading up to your period that can also affect your hunger/cravings.

Ninkanink · 20/01/2021 12:21

On the ramen meal, if you have some green veg or broccoli I’d fry that up and have it on the side or as a starter.

Ninkanink · 20/01/2021 12:26

Or do a Japanese-inspired omelette!

DataColour · 20/01/2021 12:29

Actually my hunger seems to be less than usual this morning. I've had 2 glasses of water, a coffee with almond milk (I just cant get used to cream, it's not as refreshing!) and Lapsang Souchong tea with a splash of almond milk.

Oneborneverydecade · 20/01/2021 12:32

@Lyrata it was the cheat ticklist you referred to that swung it for me, I can only dream of being that organised

PastramiNoRye · 20/01/2021 12:33

I like the idea of a spreadsheet!!

Desperately trying to get homeschooling done after the kids spent all morning in the huge dump of snow we had last night! This kind of cold makes me want comfort food so have made a big batch of low carb soup with lots of butter melted in!

DataColour · 20/01/2021 12:34

oh yes omlette!

I usually make this omlette www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/02/thai-style-omelet-khai-jiao-recipe.html but can leave out the flour, I reckon it'll be just as nice!