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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 09:40

In the spirit of @BIWI's post just now, I saw someone asking for flour-free gravy ideas. This only works with chicken, but it's amazing. When you stick the chicken in the oven, you need half a lemon inside the bird and the other half squeezed over the chicken and the shell in the roasting tin. Then loads of garlic, some inside, some in the tin, and some in the skin. Then loads of butter on the chicken, and some salt. The juice in the tin once roasted is amazing. It can be thickened with butter but you won't get lots; it's an intense flavour so you don't need loads on your food, but if you have family members who like to drown their food in gravy, you might need a bit extra for them!

pelosi · 20/01/2021 09:49

Sorry I have some more questions.

The spreadsheet says full fat yoghurt is good, but I can only find 5% in supermarkets. Is this ok? It’s 4g carbs per 100g?

Is Double cream and unsweetened coconut milk only allowed in bootcamp light?

Thanks!

pelosi · 20/01/2021 09:52

Also full fat cream cheese, is it allowed now?

Primitivo · 20/01/2021 09:59

@cheeseisthebest

Can I ask a question please? How much exercise do you all do and how do you incorporate it in busy lives with work and homeschooling! I have an exercise bike and rowing machine in my conservatory plus resistance bands, need to try and use them!!
Hey there, not sure if others have mentioned this option, but Peloton (fancy exercise bikes) have an app that you can use quite well on your own exercise bike. It's free for two months at the moment. If you Google Peloton Hacks you can see how to set it up with your own bike.... I keep meaning to do just this Grin other exercise apps are also available, I think Apple is offering some too x
prettybird · 20/01/2021 10:00

Full fat cream cheese and double cream are not only allowed but actively encouraged Grin

You only need to be concerned if you find yourself stalling and need to consider if dairy is the cause - but you're not there yet Wink

Not sure about the coconut milk - check what the carb level is on the packaging.

Frty · 20/01/2021 10:00

Morning All and commiserations to the sleep-deprived. Such a drain on the body, be kind to yourselves.

I’m not going to post daily menus as I’m in a good routine now. But I’m using this time to have fish more regularly, so today’s dinner will feature salmon in some form. I’m aiming for 3 to 4 portions of fish a week.

Good day to all!

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 20/01/2021 10:01

@cheeseisthebest

Can I ask a question please? How much exercise do you all do and how do you incorporate it in busy lives with work and homeschooling! I have an exercise bike and rowing machine in my conservatory plus resistance bands, need to try and use them!!
Morning! I do Joe Wicks or similar with the younger one every day, plus dog walk, plus housework (which we all do together).
NotwatchingSpooks · 20/01/2021 10:03

Sympathy to those with early risers, hope you get to have a sit down at some point today.

For those struggling with their emotions, I find that it helps me to get out every day and also to eat 3 meals at similar times every day, I totally remember having to force myself out and still do sometimes, but I rarely get no benefit from going out.

I am half a pound down today, which takes me to a tantalising 10 stone and 1/2 a pound, I so want to get into the 9s, I’m only 5 foot 2, so this still gives me a BMI of 25.8, I’m currently aiming at a BMI of 24 which I think was the weight I was at when I got married 😀, maybe I will try on my wedding dress when I do 😀.

shagmeriggins yes I was sniggering at the fence, sorry BIWI

Today
B Greek yogurt with teaspoon double cream
L Eggs with butter, avocado and some green veg/salad
D stir fry beef strips, in some homemade fajita seasoning, in a special veg bowl ( I was supposed to have this yesterday but changed to a low carb cottage pie) I may also make some homemade coleslaw

2 coffees with a teaspoon double cream, 1 decaf coffee with a teaspoon of double cream (in afternoon to keep me from snacking)
Teapigs teas and water

BIWI · 20/01/2021 10:05

@pelosi

Sorry I have some more questions.

The spreadsheet says full fat yoghurt is good, but I can only find 5% in supermarkets. Is this ok? It’s 4g carbs per 100g?

Is Double cream and unsweetened coconut milk only allowed in bootcamp light?

Thanks!

You need to look for the supermarkets' own brand - usually their premium brand - as these are around the 10% fat mark.

Sainsbury's Taste the Difference, Waitrose No 1, M&S are all lovely.

If you can't find one higher than 5%, you can always add some double cream to it, which also adds a lovely texture.

Double cream is very much allowed all the time! Why would you think it wouldn't be?

Which coconut milk do you mean? If you mean the tinned stuff, be careful as the carb counts can be pretty high. Sainsbury's is 5.7g carbs per 100ml whereas KTC brand is only 2.2g carbs per 100ml, but Dunn's River is even lower at 1.1g carbs per 100ml.

If you mean the carton, dairy milk replacement, Alpro chilled is 2.7g carbs per 100ml and their unsweetened version is 0g carbs - however, it's not exactly unprocessed:

Water, Coconut Milk (7%) (Coconut Cream, Water), Coconut Water (2.6%), Calcium (Tri-Calcium Phosphate), Natural Coconut Flavour, Stabilisers (Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum, Gellan Gum), Sea Salt, Vitamins (B12, D2)

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BIWI · 20/01/2021 10:07

@pelosi

Also full fat cream cheese, is it allowed now?
@pelosi - I think you need to read the rules again, and read up more about low carbing!

Full fat everything is what we eat on Bootcamp. So it's very definitely allowed now Smile

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pelosi · 20/01/2021 10:10

Thanks @BIWI

I will have another read. I will look for the 10% yoghurt.

The coconut milk I was referring to is the Alpro unsweetened coconut milk which says 0 carb and 0 sugar.

BIWI · 20/01/2021 10:15

Yep - that's the one whose ingredients I listed above. It's OK, but not a fantastic choice, given that it's pretty processed. That said, it's a better choice than dairy milk from a carb point of view!

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ouchmyfeet · 20/01/2021 10:16

Tesco finest Greek yoghurt is also 10% fat and is delicious

pelosi · 20/01/2021 10:17

Thanks BIWI

@ouchmyfeet I did see that yoghurt but didn’t realise it was 10%! It had a bit of a higher carb count then Total 5% from what I remember.

Ninkanink · 20/01/2021 10:17

Morning all! Finally got the battery for my scales so had a reliable weigh-in this morning: 72.8kg.

ouchmyfeet · 20/01/2021 10:18

I've seen homemade coleslaw mentioned a few times here. Does anyone have a recipe for the sauce? I love homemade coleslaw but my favourite is a Nigella recipe which includes maple syrup so it's a no for now

Lyrata · 20/01/2021 10:20

@pelosi I’m not entirely sure about the fat content (it’s definitely not the low fat one) but Waitrose own brand is absolutely amazing. I don’t typically shop in Waitrose but this is the ONE thing I go in for because it’s just too good to accept substitution.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
BIWI · 20/01/2021 10:21

@pelosi

Sorry I have some more questions

Don't apologise! This is exactly the place for questions, especially if you've never low carbed before. A lot of the things that we suggest/advise/recommend seem so counter-intuitive when you first start.

I know it's hard to get your head round the fact that fat is not only allowed but positively encouraged Grin

My first week when I started low carbing, I was eating bacon and eggs for one of my breakfasts, and my DH said to me 'you're never going to lose weight if you eat like that!' Thankfully he was very wrong (although it did feel like a real leap of faith, that first week.

So any questions please ask away. (You can always PM me if you prefer!)

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Lyrata · 20/01/2021 10:27

Incidentally, if anyone else is in London I just went to order from one of my favourite butchers and it came up with 15% off for first orders over £50. It also did not complain about the fact that it definitely wasn’t my first order! www.hgwalter.com/

Just thought I’d share the link - I really like their meat and they do a lot of relatively decently priced bits, although not quite as cheaply as the amazing restaurant website BIWI shared last week.

But they DO sell a lot of bones and offal and that sort of thing. I initially found them because I needed to get pork bones for ramen and they were relatively cheap. Imagine my surprise when I turned up to collect them and found a beautiful bourgeois butcher and not a dodgy slaughter house type place as I had imagined.

I’ve just ordered a load of bone marrow, oxtail and beef shin to make a stew next week.

pelosi · 20/01/2021 10:30

[quote Lyrata]@pelosi I’m not entirely sure about the fat content (it’s definitely not the low fat one) but Waitrose own brand is absolutely amazing. I don’t typically shop in Waitrose but this is the ONE thing I go in for because it’s just too good to accept substitution.[/quote]
Oooh I’ll try that one Lyrata thanks (in moderation of course!) Grin

plumstone · 20/01/2021 10:30

Morning All, Sympathies for the tired!

Today is going well. But last night I had a revelation regarding cauli rice - who knew that if you squeezed out all the water and cook for longer than I have done previously it almost ends up like couscous - Its going to be my new thing: finely chopped onion, crushed garlic clove, softened in butter, add cauli, mix, half a teaspoon of cumin, & Italian seasoning, mix, lid on and leave on low heat for 5 mins, then fluff with fork and stir through chopped parsley, served with roasted salmon and lemon cream sauce - double cream infused with garlic and lemon rind, brought slowly to boil, and then stirred in a dollop of cream cheese, seven with green beans and broccoli - it was the best thing I'd eaten in weeks!!

B - Greek Yogurt & Double cream
L - bacon and eggs with tomatoes and mushrooms
D - Chicken, broccoli, Brussel sprouts and possibly creamy leaks

Thanks to whoever posted that taco spice recipe - will do lettuce tacos with guac, sour cream and home made salsa at some point!

pelosi · 20/01/2021 10:33

Thanks @BIWI! That’s really great to hear. I’m already feeling the benefit as I’m not getting as many sugar cravings and actually drinking water as I know I have to. I’ve been thinking about changing my eating habits since 2015 (when I went from a size 10 to a size 14) so this is a game changer for me.

Oneborneverydecade · 20/01/2021 10:37

@Lyrata if I'm reincarnated as a gorgeous 20 something single woman I totally want to be you

BIWI · 20/01/2021 10:40

@plumstone - that sounds lovely! Would you mind posting that up as a recipe on the recipe thread, please?
TIA
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Justcallmecaptainobvious · 20/01/2021 10:40

Another early riser here, normally the 3 year old bounces in around 6.30, this morning it was 5.15... It means I start on food earlier in the day, so end up eating more.

I got some Zero electrolyte tablets - I know they’re not ideal but one a day is massively helping with stopping my morning headache in its tracks, and staving off any diet coke/squash cravings.

Tesco delivery arriving shortly, full of yummy food! I’m tempted by this seriously low carb bread but worried that will just make me want more bread, so I’ll stick to using little gem lettuce to wrap everything in Grin.

Tuna salad in aforementioned little gem wraps was super yummy yesterday: tuna, mayo, diced celery, a little diced onion, splash of lemon juice, salt and pepper. Considerably more satisfying than just plain tuna mayo.

My main difficulty at the moment is not picking at my 3 year old’s food! He is in a beige/carb phase, lots of bread, pasta, noodles.