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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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Oneborneverydecade · 20/01/2021 06:38

@Bumbledee thank you. I started lc towards the end of July 20, and found bootcamp in Oct I believe. Mine was baby weight too, my DD just over 2 when I started. You'll smash 2st if you stick with it I'm sure
@Ninkanink you have my sympathies, plantar fasciitis is so painful
@MrsOmelette our toddler is also fond of the 5am start Sad and last night we had the added pleasure of our teenager dicking about wandering the house looking for food and hidden xbox controllers

Bestbees · 20/01/2021 07:21

Morning all.

Sympathies to those with early risers. My twins were 5.30am walkers for years. Thank goodness that has stopped now (they are 7 now).

I felt terrible last night, not low carb related. Ended up eating lots of cheese and celery. On plan but definitely emotional eating not hunger. Onwards!

B sausage and egg muffin
L left over brisket and coleslaw with salad
D lamb keema, roasted sprouts and greens

Water and No Snacks!!

Lyrata · 20/01/2021 07:43

@Onelittlepiglet here is a recipe for lamb shoulder but I bet it would work just as well for shanks. I tend to prefer slow cooking in the oven nowadays because I find you get a nicer sauce than from the slow cooker. Does anyone else find that? My slow cooker gives me more of a thin, hot pot style sauce.

@SummerBody1 agree that exercise is therapy! I’m pretty sure running is the only thing keeping me going right now, although I do get the odd bit of knee pain. Staving it off by trying to adjust my form and wearing supports but I think at some point I need to book a session with someone to really analyse my gait.

I firmly believe that 10k steps are better than the running for weight loss though. I wear a Fitbit and while the running seems to be good for cardio, it’s walking where I hit fat burn zone.

I was wondering - has anyone read that new book: Why We Eat (Too Much)? By Dr Andrew Jenkison.

I really enjoyed it but it felt like he spent most of the book talking about why weight loss was impossible and then didn’t really deliver much of an effective solution. He seemed to somewhat vaguely recommend slowly dieting (but called it going straight to maintenance to make it seem like he’d said something more revolutionary) but had earlier in the book claimed that your body starts slowing metabolically after 10% weight loss and wasn’t really clear on how slowly one would have to lose weight to avoid this. He then recommended low carb - which is part of the reason I bought the book (confirmation bias) - but again didn’t really link it to his previous arguments about ‘set points’ or metabolic slowing as much as I wanted him to. Anyway I know there are some smart people here so I thought I’d check if anyone had read it. It felt a bit like he’d set up a problem but then didn’t really resolve it as much as I’d expected.

ZiggZagg · 20/01/2021 07:54

Morning. Another with hardly any sleep last night, DH fell asleep before me and was snoring then I developed a cough Sad

I'm taking it easy today, WFH due to the Covid test and have a job interview at 3pm via Zoom.

No breakfast as I usually fast anyway, but I'm going back to sleep.
Lunch bacon and veg soup
Dinner Courgetti bologna with cheesy garlic bread Grin

Lots of water..and coffee to get me through the day!!

Have a good day all!

m0therofdragons · 20/01/2021 07:58

@cheeseisthebest I still have to battle my brain telling me I can’t run every time! Weightloss is clearly more related to what I eat though but it does help if the loss starts slowing.

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 08:08

I haven’t been running for a while and miss it, even though I’m not a regular runner. Not sure why I’m not going. I might be a bit depressed and logically I know I’ll feel better if I get out there but it feels hard.

Another 2lbs off today which just removes my weekend carb-fest weight. So I’m back to where I was last week. Anything more now is a loss from there. First milestone now is to lose the lingering Christmas 6lbs.

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 08:09

I hope the sleepless ones get through the day OK.

Bumbledee · 20/01/2021 08:13

@venusandmars I know what you mean. I was most comfortable in my own body when I was 2 stone lighter so I am looking at it as an aspirational goal. However, I do have a favourite pair of trousers I used to fit into when I was 1 stone lighter, so I might just get those out. Smile thank you for your kind response.

Bumbledee · 20/01/2021 08:15

@Oneborneverydecade that definitely gives me hope! Smile

cheeseisthebest · 20/01/2021 08:15

Morning everyone. Sympathies for those with early risers, I dont miss those days although we are hopefully getting a puppy this year so might be back there again!

I used to love running, theres nothing like it but I had such shin pain. I saw all sorts of people to help with it, ended up with insoles from chiropractor but still got the pain. Not sure if I give up or try again.

oscarandelliesdad · 20/01/2021 08:17

Hope your day is gentle @zigzag and good luck with your interview x
Oneborneverydecade - I have a similar model of teenage boy, likes loping around in the dark and making himself illicit instant noodles at 3 am Hmm

VeryLittleOwl · 20/01/2021 08:23

Lyrata - yes, I read it before Christmas, but honestly don't remember too much from it! I thought what he was saying about weight set points and how they change was really interesting.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 20/01/2021 08:34

ATTENTION ATTENTION

SERIOUSLY

READ THIS

There is a new link to the spreadsheet here:

SPREADSHEET

I know it's annoying to keep having to find a new link, but someone else left a comment on the previous one which displays their full name.

We do appreciate this is often fat thumbs - but just in case it's you thinking you'll just add a note. Please don't. It identifies you.

And then we get a gazillion posts asking why the old link doesn't work Grin

Howdidthathappen1 · 20/01/2021 08:51

Morning all.
V v tried today after a 17 hour work day yesterday and this will be my first test as tiredness would normally mean carbs!!
B. Last nights missed dinner - roast chicken, pile of green veg - may have a dollop of mayo as a sauce as oh made it so I told him no gravy on mine!
L. Some sort of eggs
D. Stir fry green veg with either tofu or prawns.

Still waking up seriously hungry - can't wait for that to stop

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 08:55

Yesterday after I'd missed lunch because of work and stuff, I read through this thread before dinner, and your food made me so hungry I almost went to buy a steak to have as a pre-dinner snack! And I often miss lunch without noticing. Your breakfast is now making me hungry in the morning, @Howdidthathappen1, and I am almost never interested in breakfast.

lurknolinger · 20/01/2021 08:57

Morning all, I'm a 1lb down from Monday already so want that to stick for the rest of the week. (Bearing in mind I started on the 4th jan and have already lost 6 of my 6.5lbs I put on over Christmas, and I'm In week 3 and will expect my weight loss to slow down from here on) this this takes me to a new lowest weight - and also into the 11's stone bracket so I'm keen not to see a 12 number again on this boot camp.
@ZiggZagg - you are planning to have cheesy garlic bread?? I'm confused, what am I missing? Smile

venusandmars · 20/01/2021 09:08

No running or gym stuff here, but lots of walking - a distraction from the miserableness of January and the news!

B - avocado salad
L - bacon, leek and cabbage soup with a swirl of cream and crispy pancetta on the top
D - Chicken parmigiana, buttered leeks, kale, spinach

And water!

AndreaMartel · 20/01/2021 09:11

I have come to work without having prepared any food ahead. There is a sandwich shop so open near work, wondering how odd it would be to buy a couple of booked eggs!

I have a holiday booked end of May which I know most likely will be cancelled but I might still set a goal around that. I'm wondering if two stone is realistic in that time?! I'm starting at nearly 16 stone. I might be brave and take a photo in my swimsuit for the now and then comparison.

Huge sympathy to those with early risers. It really zaps your energy.

I had a feta omlette with green salad last night. Really enjoying food eating like this.

Good luck @ZiggZagg.

@Howdidthathappen1 hope you have an easier day today. 17 hours sounds tough!

Right better go face the day.

prettybird · 20/01/2021 09:19

I do The Shred or Ripped DVDs 4 days a week (and Pilates on the 5th) and take weekends off - but I do them for my health and not weight loss.

I also go for a daily walk with dh (to feed the ducks Smile) .

I do want to start running again 3-4 days a week (at over 50, I should only do that many runs and most of them should be reeeeaaaally easy and only one of them at pace, according to a Webinar I went on) but I'd got out the habit when I had the massive falling off the wagon before the last Boot Camp and once my weight got back into a "safe" category (I have a TMI problem Blush when my weight is above a certain level), it was both the run up to Christmas and the weather was not conducive. Maybe next week......Wink

Bumbledee · 20/01/2021 09:20

Morning everyone,

My sympathies to the early risers, I am not over that phase either. I was awake sitting by the cot from 2-3 am to stop the toddler from escaping! Then I was so wide awake that I spent 30 minutes on social media. My menu today:

B: spinach and cheese omelette
L: A creamy spinach and lamb mince cooked in coconut milk with a salad
D: the creamy curry will be stuffed in a bell pepper, topped with feta and baked. Again with salad or buttery broccoli.

GorgeousGoldies · 20/01/2021 09:21

Another one with a broken night’s sleep here, but just for variety, it was the dog vomiting that had me up!

This has led to 2 black coffees and scrambled egg with smoked salmon already (I normally hold out until lunchtime).

Lunch will be soup, and dinner, basque chicken. It’s a bit oniony and tomatoey but I think it’ll do, with loads of leeks and broccoli.

In my own little experiment (sample of 1), I found that dog walks are just as effective in terms of exercise/weight loss/weight maintenance as running. A couple of Januarys ago, I ran every day and completed over 100miles, but did not lose a single pound! In fact, I think I gained due to being ravenous. I still love running, but I don’t get upset these days if it’s a lovely long walk instead.

@ZiggZagg good luck in the job interview and hope everyone who is lacking sleep gets through the day.

BIWI · 20/01/2021 09:25

@oscarandelliesdad yes lemon juice (or lime juice) is fine. I use lemon juice (and what's left of the lemon) on a chicken when I'm roasting it - juice on the chicken, lemon itself inside the cavity.

@Onelittlepiglet and @MrsOmelette I'll join you in the insomniacs corner! Rain and wind were raging around the house last night, and I just couldn't sleep. Ended up downstairs for a couple of hours reading. Thankfully I don't have the pain of small children to add into that mix!

@Bumbledee @venusandmars is right - breaking your overall target into smaller ones makes it seem much less overwhelming and therefore, psychologically, much more likely that you'll stick to it. I colour coded my spreadsheet, so that I broke it up into half stones - the row that reflected my starting weight was coloured in orange, and then the row 7lbs down was coloured in green, along with the one at 14lbs and then again at 21lbs. The columns across the top were for the days, so each day had its own cell, which I filled in in yellow, so I created a graph using my chart. Seeing what was effectively a green band across the chart showed me each target, but also made it seem much easier to get to a 7lb marker rather than a 28lb marker!

But equally a favourite item of clothing that no longer fits is a good one too. Again, though, don't pick something that's a size 8 if you're currently a size 14 - that's simply too depressing! Pick something that's just a bit too small or tight and you'll soon find that you're fitting into it.

@Howdidthathappen1 you are allowed to be hungry in the morning! However, looking at your menu it does look to me like you're perhaps not getting enough fat. Try upping that and see what happens.

@lurknolinger I think @ZiggZagg is referring to Seriously Low Carb bread from this site. At least I hope so!

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BIWI · 20/01/2021 09:29

@AthelstaneTheUnready

ATTENTION ATTENTION

SERIOUSLY

READ THIS

There is a new link to the spreadsheet here:

SPREADSHEET

I know it's annoying to keep having to find a new link, but someone else left a comment on the previous one which displays their full name.

We do appreciate this is often fat thumbs - but just in case it's you thinking you'll just add a note. Please don't. It identifies you.

And then we get a gazillion posts asking why the old link doesn't work Grin

IT'S BECOMING MORE AND MORE OBVIOUS THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT READING THE WHOLE THREAD. I SHAN'T NAME NAMES, BUT FROM COMMENTS ABOUT THE SPREADSHEET/NOT BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE SPREADSHEET THAT'S WHAT HAS GIVEN YOU AWAY - AMONG OTHER POSTS!

Please, please, please read the whole thread. I know it moves quickly, but it's immensely frustrating when people plop on the thread simply for their own benefit without bothering to read what other posters have written or asked. It's something I asked right at the beginning of this thread and it is poor thread etiquette to ignore that.

Using the bookmark feature does make it easier to find your place, so each time you join the thread, please catch up with newer posts before you add yours.

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lurknolinger · 20/01/2021 09:32

@BIWI ah yes of course, the Seriously Low Carb bread, that's makes sense.
Good luck with the interview @ZiggZagg, hope you managed to catch up on some sleep beforehand.

Bumbledee · 20/01/2021 09:40

Thanks @BIWI. I think the spreadsheet approach would work well for me. I would look at it like just another KPI I need to achieve for my quarterly reviews this year! 😁 I can't use a top because, I am a pear shape, which means, I still fit into my size 8-10 tops as I was never a slim fit wearer. I carry most of the weight on my bum, tum, hips and legs.

So it will be my favourite pair of trousers and a spreadsheet. I am trying not to weigh myself every day and obsess!

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