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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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ouchmyfeet · 19/01/2021 08:16

I'm a bit confused by the tea talk too, is normal not allowed or milk?

Normal tea is allowed but we shouldn't really be having the milk

Almahart · 19/01/2021 08:18

Morning!!

Can someone explain the salt in coffee phenomenon?

Ninkanink · 19/01/2021 08:28

@Bestbees

Morning everyone. Sounds like lots of people are feeling really motivated. Which is great! Just checking in with my plan: B yoghurt with cream. Unfortunately my online shop replace my greek yog full fat with low fat so have put in a bit more cream and hoping thats OK. L salad with lots of bits from fridge, cottage cheese, salami, pork belly, olives, coleslaw. Using up left overs basically! D gammon and creamy mushrooms with roasted sprouts.

I have actually put on 1/2 lb which is annoying but focusing on settling into this woe, then will look at tweaking. I ma much less hungry but worried if I cut down or skip a meal at this point I will snack or cheat. Assuming this is the right approach those of you who have done this before?

There’s no need to cut down or skip meals - in fact if you’re new to low carbing it’s very important that you don’t skip meals. So eat until you’re no longer hungry, at every meal.

Natural fluctuations in weight will happen and you are best just ignoring them, keeping on keeping on and trusting the process. Eat lots of healthy fats, drinks lots and lots of water, and don’t cheat with any carbs.

This WOE works, but it’s early days yet so don’t get discouraged.

Ninkanink · 19/01/2021 08:29

@Letsrunabath

Hi, lovely thread and have picked up lots of information. I’ve a stone exactly to loose and have been cutting carbs down since Christmas. What do you eat as fibre? I always get constipated because of the lack of fruit even though I eat loads of veg.
You’re probably still not eating enough veg. You need to eat loads.

Also make sure you’re getting enough fat and drinking enough water.

Ninkanink · 19/01/2021 08:32

@DulcetMoans

Morning! What's the deal with the tea chat? I've been back but can't find where it started. We can have tea, can't we? I love fancy tea anyway so happy to diversify!

Peppermint must be fine, surely. Earl gray? I really rate tea pigs but had some whittards Christmas brew as a gift and love that too.

It’s absolutely fine to have tea, just some people end up having too much milk with it if they drink lots of tea and like it very milky.

I measure out a 50ml serving of milk and stick to that for the day’s intake.

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 19/01/2021 08:33

@Almahart

Morning!!

Can someone explain the salt in coffee phenomenon?

Morning!

Someone posted upthread that it takes away the bitterness, & it does Smile

Ninkanink · 19/01/2021 08:34

@ouchmyfeet

Morning all, can I ask about the salt intake?

Do we need to keep adding salt/drinking bovril etc as long as we continue with LCHF, or is this just something we might need when we first start and are adjusting to it?

Salt and electrolyte intake is important throughout - because we drink so much water it’s important to keep it balanced.
venusandmars · 19/01/2021 08:37

Normal tea is fine, but some cannot face it without milk so were looking for alternatives. Also some people struggle with drinking plain water and herbal teas can be another way to keep up the fluid intake.

B - avocado smash on rye bread
L - left over veg (broccoli, sprouts kale) with fried egg
D - leek and bacon soup; tuna salad and mayonnaise

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 19/01/2021 08:37

Well, this first day and might have been most illuminating for me.

I have followed the rules faithfully, and have unmistakable withdrawal symptoms: can only be from sugar!

I would usually have dried cranberries, two lots of fresh fruit plus a LOT of milk, and never shook my weekend sugar cravings. Hopefully this will do the trick!

Btw, @52andblue, I have PMed you. Nothing weird promise! Have a look Smile

prettybird · 19/01/2021 08:37

Iirc, the water contribution from caffeinated drinks (tea or coffee) is limited to two cups. So if you are using tea to help drink your water allocation, then herb teas are better Smile

My favourites are rooibos and peppermint & liquorice (used to have Buttermint on that list but Twinings have stopped doing it Sad). I agree with the comments about some of the others (eg Apple and cinnamon, lemon & ginger): the idea seems better than the reality. Although the lemon and ginger one isn't too bad must get it out again Wink

MilesJuppIsMyBitch · 19/01/2021 08:38

*night

Oneborneverydecade · 19/01/2021 08:48

@Letsrunabath is it definitely constipation or just going less frequently? The latter is a natural consequence but shouldn't be a problem

Frty · 19/01/2021 08:49

Wow, this thread is moving fast. Great to hear of so many people in the same boat.
If we're talking herbal teas, my favourite at the moment is rose hip and hibiscus. Slightly tart and very warming.

BIWI · 19/01/2021 08:49

@pelosi

Hi all, day 1 was tough as I gave haven’t done a low carb shop yet but I made it, mostly.

Unfortunately I ate Mrs Elwoods gherkins which have around 7g of carbs/5g sugar per 100g.

Am I back to square 1?

It depends entirely on how many you ate!
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BIWI · 19/01/2021 08:52

@Lyrata

Why are you still drinking the red wine though?! First two weeks of Bootcamp no alcohol is allowed.

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BIWI · 19/01/2021 08:53

(... although I'm very glad you stuck to your guns and ordered the kind of food you wanted!)

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Almahart · 19/01/2021 08:54

Ah thanks @MilesJuppIsMyBitch

BIWI · 19/01/2021 08:55

@ouchmyfeet

Morning all, can I ask about the salt intake?

Do we need to keep adding salt/drinking bovril etc as long as we continue with LCHF, or is this just something we might need when we first start and are adjusting to it?

Good question!

We need more salt generally on a low carb WOE because we drink more water. At the beginning, you may need to increase supplementation until you get used to it, but overall salt is very important.

Are you worried about the salt?

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BIWI · 19/01/2021 08:57

@Letsrunabath

Hi, lovely thread and have picked up lots of information. I’ve a stone exactly to loose and have been cutting carbs down since Christmas. What do you eat as fibre? I always get constipated because of the lack of fruit even though I eat loads of veg.
Are you really constipated, or just going less often? Constipation is when you have trouble, or it's painful to go.

If you're eating plenty of veg that's great - you also need to keep the fat levels high and drink plenty.

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ShagMeRiggins · 19/01/2021 09:00

pelosi Mrs Elswood’s hamisha cucumbers are gorgeous, far less sweet, and only 2.1g per 100g. Also, don’t stress that eating one gherkin on your first day will someone bring the fires of hell raining upon you...

This is for everyone who’s starting LCHF from scratch—I can almost guarantee that if you make a few mistakes with not reading labels this week you will still be eating significantly fewer carbs than you normally do.

Before I started Bootcamp I didn’t have the sweet craving that so many refer to. Rarely ate dessert, didn’t have cake or biscuits when out for coffee, certainly didn’t sit down with a pack of chocolate in front of the telly.

What I did do was bread, specifically anything in a baguette, bagel, tortilla, or on a cracker. And a typical day might have been scrambled eggs with toast, a prawn mayo sandwich at lunch or possibly a salad with lots of croutons, then maybe carbonara or burritos or lamb and veg and mashed potatoes for dinner.

If you add the carb consumption from bread and potatoes alone (not to mention probably cheese on crackers as a snack) you’re looking at:

Two slices of toast 50g
One baguette 66g
Five crackers 20g
Plate of spaghetti 76g

278g of carbs, not including additional carbs from other ingredients throughout the day. These are rough figures and don’t represent daily eating, but it’s easy to eat sky high carbs without thinking about it as sweet treats (then add them through choc etc).

In the UK women consume 198g of carbs per day on average. I’m not a fan of carb counting—which we don’t do on Bootcamp anyway other than to inform ourselves about labels and traffic light veg—but cutting back on carbs will lead to weight loss, all things being the same.

The 9g Gherkin won’t make a damn bit of difference this week.

BIWI · 19/01/2021 09:02

@Bestbees

I have actually put on 1/2 lb which is annoying

We're only on day 2!!!

Everyone is different. What you'll see today is some people reporting a loss already (although don't forget that many of them may have started earlier). It's not a race. Your body weight will fluctuate quite naturally on a day-to-day basis, so don't worry.

Don't start trying to tweak things yet. You need to let your body settle into this WOE, so just follow the rules. Keep your fat levels high and drink all the water.

It's a pain about the yoghurt substitution, but adding cream was the perfect remedy to that!

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BIWI · 19/01/2021 09:03
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ShagMeRiggins · 19/01/2021 09:07

@BIWI

Grin
Ha! That reminds me of a post I meant to reply to yesterday, BIWI when you mentioned being on the fence about something in reply to a poster.

Immediately I picture a long fence made of...yep...Very Big Sticks. I couldn’t possibly say how I envisaged your perching, by the way.

cheeseisthebest · 19/01/2021 09:19

Why do I keep missing stuff? I didnt know milk wasnt allowed! Shock
Oh well I have builders tea so only have a tiny bit anyway

BIWI · 19/01/2021 09:21

@cheeseisthebest

Have you not read the rules?!

Rule no 5:

Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs

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