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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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Howdidthathappen1 · 18/01/2021 21:20

Rubbish but within bootcamp rules today as unexpectedly called out for work so ruined my meal plan
B. 2 aldi sausages with spinach and mushrooms in a dollop of cream cheese with a bit of grated cheddar.
Rest of day 3 (yes 3!!) Packs of the M&S manchego ham rolls - stuck in an A&E dept for 8 hours and had no time to browse in the shop and I knew these would be ok.
Nowhere near enough water either.
Must have back up food plans I can grab and go for these emergencies!

ouchmyfeet · 18/01/2021 21:35

Also loving all the updates here, and thanks again to all those who have offered tips on keeping on top of the water intake.

I've had a good day, not felt hungry at all, and although I'm craving junk now as DH is tucking into a packet of crisps Angry. Consoling myself with herbal tea.

B: boiled eggs with butter, salt and pepper
L: cauliflower cheese soup
D: minced beef tacos (no actual tacos for me, I had lettuce cups) with sour cream, avocado and cheese

Have drunk about 3 litres of water plus another litre in green tea, and 2 coffees with cream. Going to hold off a bit for now as I know I'll be up in the night.

Can I recommend that those of you who can't stomach black tea give green tea a try? I could never get on with black tea or coffee but green tea without milk is lovely. Still can't do black coffee but I won't have many with a dash of cream in

LittleMy77 · 18/01/2021 21:37

Any suggestions for breakfast that isn’t eggs or yoghurt in these two weeks (they’re both fine but I can’t eat tons of them) I’ve got salmon and avocado and mushroom but must admit the textures of anything soft sometimes puts me right off in the morning. I don’t eat cream, do eat cheese (I’m going to look like a pack of cathedral cheddar soon...)

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 18/01/2021 21:42

@LittleMy77

Any suggestions for breakfast that isn’t eggs or yoghurt in these two weeks (they’re both fine but I can’t eat tons of them) I’ve got salmon and avocado and mushroom but must admit the textures of anything soft sometimes puts me right off in the morning. I don’t eat cream, do eat cheese (I’m going to look like a pack of cathedral cheddar soon...)

I make these low-carb rolls sometimes - they're more of crumbly scone texture than a bread one, but they are nice toasted with butter for breakfast. If you left out the cheese and spices you could top them with nut butter as well.

250g almond flour/finely ground almonds
2 tsps baking powder
0.5 tsp salt
2 large eggs, beaten
80g butter - measured solid then melted.

Cheese/herbs/spices to taste. Combinations I like are Parmesan with thyme or rosemary; garlic and herbs; cheddar and chilli flakes; and smoked paprika.

Pre-heat oven to between 180-200 degrees. Butter and line a large baking teay. Combine the dry ingredients, then mix in any flavourings you’re using, and then the eggs and melted butter. Stir gently until all combined and you have a soft sticky dough. Use your hands to shape into balls - you should get between 6-10 depending on how big you make them. Place them on the baking tray, slightly spaced out, and flatten them a little with your palm. Bake for 15-20 mins till golden - check after 15.

Motivateinmotion · 18/01/2021 21:46

@LittleMy77 how about cheese roll ups? Using slices of Edam or manchego. Can spread with butter and add a salad filling or salad and Mayo?

ChristMyArse · 18/01/2021 21:49

@Bestbees

Just wanted to comment on the tea chat! I find teapigs OK, but would really recommend yogi teas, much stronger and spicier if you like that kind of thing. They do a choco chili which is almost creamy. And each tea bag has a little mantra thing which I enjoy, though might be a bit naff for some!

Made a creamy halibut and brocoli casserole from diet doctor for dinner which was much better than expected and husband loved it too. Served with roasted kale. Stuffed, but gave me energy for a 5k run.

Where do you get this tea from! I've had a google, but can't find choc chilli one for sale anywhere!?
LittleMy77 · 18/01/2021 21:51

Ooh @GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal they look ace! I got sucked into a rabbit hole on a keto site with the worlds most depressing looking bread, this is an infinite improvement! (Am assuming no almond flour until first 2 weeks is up tho?)

GreeboIsMySpiritAnimal · 18/01/2021 21:53

Oh yeah, I didn't think of that! Sorry BIWI Blush

pelosi · 18/01/2021 21:58

Hi all, day 1 was tough as I gave haven’t done a low carb shop yet but I made it, mostly.

Unfortunately I ate Mrs Elwoods gherkins which have around 7g of carbs/5g sugar per 100g.

Am I back to square 1?

Bestbees · 18/01/2021 22:07

@ChristMyArse I get it from my local health food shop. Maybe Holland and barrett?

Almahart · 18/01/2021 22:27

I've just ordered some low carb bread too, I'm extremely excited!

venusandmars · 18/01/2021 22:47

On the tea chat... for those who aren't pining for a sweet flavour, I like hibiscus tea. It's quite sour and refreshing, particularly in the summer if it's chilled and topped up with soda water.

I buy THESE from Amazon. It's an expensive experiment at £10 for 50

venusandmars · 18/01/2021 22:54

I didn't like the seriously low carb bread, I though it was tasteless and mushy. But Asda sell THIS BREAD which is sort of like a rye bread, and is only 4g carb per slice. It his the spot for me for the days when I need something more substantial to put my avocado on Grin

pelosi How many gherkins did you eat? It can't have been that many... You're not back to square 1, but you have learnt an incredibly useful lesson: read the label before you eat it! Well done for learning that on day 1, no more mistakes from now on.

IncurablyCurious · 18/01/2021 22:55

Thread is moving so fast! Lovely to see so many cheerful posts Smile

Not a good start, but it was exam week deadline day. So, I'm cutting myself some slack, because the past week was so much more stressful than I thought it was going to be. But I have a restocked fridge and a good plan for the rest of the week, so onwards and upwards.

B: Big pot of orange and lapsang tea.
L: Salami and two baby cucumbers & a pot of green tea.
D: Steak, bearnaise sauce, salad.

Couple of glasses of water. Nowhere near enough, so have popped some nice mineral water in the fridge to tempt me a bit more tomorrow.

Oneborneverydecade · 18/01/2021 23:03

We watched Fat Fiction on Amazon after the recommendation so thank you. Nothing I haven't previously read but so much easier to take in than a book. It's really dawned on my DH that we need to try to reduce the carbs DS2 is consuming which will be a challenge.

I also had a bit of a wardrobe sort out - plenty of tent like dresses have gone - and took a couple of 1st day of bootcamp photos to monitor progress

Everyone's food today sounded delicious, I've saved a few new ideas, thank you

Lyrata · 18/01/2021 23:09

Thank you for your advice, BIWI - I said I’d rather do something other than Wahaca tonight and we ended up going to a Turkish place. I ordered a lamb skewer - but they ended up only having chicken in stock - and then actually said I wanted to cook my own vegetables with it because I desperately did. I felt a tiny bit rude but I enjoyed my meal a lot.

I did have a (large) glass of red wine but in the grand scheme of things, I’m really pleased with myself because moderation is something I really struggle with. To have a drink but not end up going all out is a big win for me.

That being said, I’ve been doing this WOE for I think 18 weeks now and tracking using six week tick sheets. On the last six week tick sheet (which includes Christmas) I cheated 8 times and as a result only lost four pounds. On the previous one I only cheated twice and lost ten pounds. So the cheats really do hurt my diet - I could be half a stone lighter right now if I had behaved. I’m hoping this six (or ten) weeks will be better.

Breakfast - creamy coffee
Lunch - spicy sausage soup
Dinner - chicken thigh skewer and roasted feta courgette, onion, pepper and cherry tomato (plus glass of red wine)

1WayOrAnother2 · 18/01/2021 23:54

B boiled eggs and butter + coffee and cream
L 1/2 Very-low-carb roll with toasted cheese and peppers
D roast chicken with broccoli and cauli cheese bake.

Kitchen still spread for miles and everything lightly seasoned with plaster-dust but things are looking up.

Was a bit lower than planned on the water today.

tea69 · 19/01/2021 00:21

My start weight is bang on 12 stone. Would like to be in the 10 stone zone by the end off Bootcamp.

Let's do this.

Bestbees · 19/01/2021 07:21

Morning everyone.
Sounds like lots of people are feeling really motivated. Which is great!
Just checking in with my plan:
B yoghurt with cream. Unfortunately my online shop replace my greek yog full fat with low fat so have put in a bit more cream and hoping thats OK.
L salad with lots of bits from fridge, cottage cheese, salami, pork belly, olives, coleslaw. Using up left overs basically!
D gammon and creamy mushrooms with roasted sprouts.

I have actually put on 1/2 lb which is annoying but focusing on settling into this woe, then will look at tweaking. I ma much less hungry but worried if I cut down or skip a meal at this point I will snack or cheat. Assuming this is the right approach those of you who have done this before?

ouchmyfeet · 19/01/2021 07:27

Morning all, can I ask about the salt intake?

Do we need to keep adding salt/drinking bovril etc as long as we continue with LCHF, or is this just something we might need when we first start and are adjusting to it?

DulcetMoans · 19/01/2021 07:43

Morning! What's the deal with the tea chat? I've been back but can't find where it started. We can have tea, can't we? I love fancy tea anyway so happy to diversify!

Peppermint must be fine, surely. Earl gray? I really rate tea pigs but had some whittards Christmas brew as a gift and love that too.

Letsrunabath · 19/01/2021 08:06

Hi, lovely thread and have picked up lots of information. I’ve a stone exactly to loose and have been cutting carbs down since Christmas. What do you eat as fibre? I always get constipated because of the lack of fruit even though I eat loads of veg.

cheeseisthebest · 19/01/2021 08:11

I'm a bit confused by the tea talk too, is normal not allowed or milk?
Had an amazing nights sleep last night.
Have a great day everyone and hope those of you not feeling well feel better soon xx

cheeseisthebest · 19/01/2021 08:12

Letsrunabath I have a stone to lose too then will be a healthy BMI.

EarlGreyHot · 19/01/2021 08:16

Well I've re-learned a lesson in KOKO and drinking all the water! Slightly disappointed with a half pound loss yesterday. The old me would have fallen head first into the kids cake - especially as I was feeling fragile due to being up half the night with a toddler and homeschooling fun with the other two! But I knuckled down and made a real effort to get the water in... hopped on the scales this morning and 1.5 lbs off overnight!
Plan for today is black coffee this morning (have been doing 16:8 since last Bootcamp)
L - mediterranean vegetables soup and low carb roll with cream cheese
D - pork chops with creamy mushrooms and FLGV