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Week 4 - Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - time to focus

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BIWI · 02/11/2020 09:13

The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

Morning all. Sorry for the late start - had a bit of a bad night so slept longer than usual.

I hope that the scales were kind to you this morning, but please remember week 4 is notorious (along with week 3) in that you are very likely to have seen no loss, or even a small gain

If this has happened to you, DON'T PANIC!

This is your body adjusting to a new WOE, and from now on you should be burning fat. So don't change what you've been doing and things will get moving again; you should expect to see 1-3lbs losses each week (depending on how much you have to lose)

However, it's also important to be scrupulously honest with yourself. If you have had no loss, or seen a gain, go back over what you have been eating and drinking. Have you been following the rules? Have you been keeping your fat levels high? Have you been drinking all the water?

Good luck to us all for the following week as we go into lockdown once again. I know it's not going to be easy, and the lure of carbs (and all the alcohol) will be even more ever-present. Post here if you're needing support to stay away from them and together we can help each other. Remember, you're not alone!

Flowers
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StuntNun · 02/11/2020 09:20

Wow are we in to week 4 already? It's flying by!

ponygirlcurtis · 02/11/2020 09:26

Morning, thanks for the new thread (not sure the link on the last thread is working, it gave me the Mumsnet oops page).

Just 1lb off in Week 2 for me, taking it to 4lb in total. Was hoping for more but keeping in my head that if I hadn't started bootcamp I would still be where I was 2 weeks ago but instead I am over half way to losing half a stone. I think I need to cut back on dairy, so will try that this week.

MaudesMum · 02/11/2020 09:26

Slow downward progress this week, so feeling a bit more positive. I put on a LOT of weight last lockdown, and am determined not to this time. One of the real pitfalls last time was booze fuelled weekend zoom chats, so I need to arm myself with a nice glass of water or two instead of a large gin.

Rayna37 · 02/11/2020 09:29

A small gain for me to 124.6lbs. Lowest I saw last week was 122.6 but numerous factors explain the gain, especially when compared to the week before. I had too much wine on Saturday, not as much water as usual over the weekend, no exercise at the weekend other than yoga, a takeaway curry which may have had hidden carbs, etc. Too much dairy I think too.

Cheeseburger pie day!

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 02/11/2020 09:30

Half a pound loss for me, by the skin of my teeth. Been gaining and losing this all week. I have had gin and wine so I know this is the problem. Back on the straight and narrow now Wink
Good luck everyone for your weigh ins today.

poorbuthappy · 02/11/2020 09:32

Morning all (again)

Let's have a fab week!

ShagMeRiggins · 02/11/2020 09:36

2lbs down for me, much to my shock. 13lbs down this Bootcamp.

I tried on a pair of size down non-stretchy jeans yesterday and they were fine but after a couple hours were a bit too loose and I could pull them down without unbuttoning or unzipping. Hmm

BIWI · 02/11/2020 09:41

Sorry about the broken link - no idea what happened there!

I'm copying a post I made at the end of the last thread, as it might resonate with many of you:

We also all have 'sticking points' - I'm stuck in one of mine right now! For some reason the body wants to stay where it is. It's a biological fact called homeostasis.

This piece here, copied and pasted from a mindfulness site is insightful:

The Sticking Points – Weight Loss Plateaus

By Dr. Rhonda Simpson, MD, CPC

Everyone who has tried to lose weight is familiar with this scenario: you start out like gangbusters. Your refrigerator and pantry are full of healthy veggies, lean proteins, and even some healthy fats like nuts and avocados. You make sure you eat your meals on time and plan to take your lunch every day. You never miss a day of exercise whether it’s an hour in the gym or walking at noon. You are weighing yourself at least once a day (and if truth be told, sometimes two or three times a day); you’re excited to watch the scale numbers as they drop.

And then it happens. It comes to a screeching halt. The numbers stop dropping. You wait a day and step on the scale again. Nothing. Perhaps a week goes by with no change… You feel frustrated and disappointed. You start thinking to yourself, “What’s the point?” “What am I doing wrong?” You feel ready to give up altogether.

Hitting a plateau is common. It can feel so frustrating! Know that you are not alone in this stage of weight loss! So what are we going to do? First thing; remember to stop and BREATHE! Remember that your body was designed to remain in balance. Your recent weight loss has thrown off that balance. Centuries of evolution to prevent starvation have resulted in a beautiful web- like structure of hormones that works to restore your body to homeostasis. Those hormones include the hormone leptin (which is partly responsible for helping you to feel full), ghrelin (which makes you feel hungry), cortisol (which increases fat stores and increases under stress), and insulin (which assists in energy metabolism). In addition to these hormones, a number of vitamins and minerals play an effect depending on current energy needs.

This complex web of hormones and nutrients ensure that you have the energy you need when you need it. How beautiful is that? Please spend some time appreciating the complexity of your body, and the fact that if you’re hitting a plateau everything is working as it should!

Now that you’ve stopped to breathe and recognize that our bodies are functioning as designed, what to do next? It’s time for some reflection. If you keep a food journal, take time to review it. Has anything shifted since you first changed your eating habits? Are you perhaps going out to eat more frequently? Perhaps that occasional cookie has become more common? It’s also time to look at your exercise habits. Are you still as active as you were at the beginning of your lifestyle changes?

Are you sleeping well? Perhaps the most overlooked reason for a weight loss plateau is actually increased stress, and therefore increased cortisol levels. Stress management in the form of mindfulness, other forms of meditation, yoga, or regular breathing practices such as heart-centered breathing can play a crucial role in lowering your cortisol levels.

It’s also important to decrease your weigh-ins. This seems counter-intuitive, doesn’t it? But consider this: we can to be addicted to the numbers on the scale. What do you feel as the number goes up? Down? The negative self-talk that often accompanies a plateau is stressful. It can cause increased cortisol, and therefore actually contribute to some weight gain! Weighing yourself daily to three times a day or more? Decrease the frequency to once per week. Remember that the weight loss will happen in its time. Continue your healthy lifestyle changes and your body will resume its weight loss.

So, if you find yourself at a sticking point during your weight loss journey, remember the following:

All is as it should be.
Don’t panic, stop and breathe!
Review your food diary, exercise plan, your sleep, and most importantly your stress management, to see if anything has changed.
Make time every day for play, laughter, and joy! If you are feeling overwhelmed please remember to reach out for help!!

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BIWI · 02/11/2020 09:42

@StuntNun

Wow are we in to week 4 already? It's flying by!
I know! I had to actually check it was week 4 when I wrote the thread title!
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CowGurl · 02/11/2020 09:42

Morning!

2lbs on for me - but still under the magic 90kg. I had birthday cake and birthday cake crumbs on Saturday, and a couple of chocolates, so not at all unexpected, but didn't want hubby to have to celebrate on his own. However, what I didn't really expect was quite how awful I felt! Really jittery and quite sick. Having been off sugar for 3 weeks it was really clear that my body doesn't like it at all!

I was back on bootcamp yesterday. The part eaten cake is in the kitchen, hubby is valiantly struggling through the remainder on his own, but it has zero appeal to me now!

Hope everyone has a good 4th week.

Takingontheundead · 02/11/2020 09:44

Post is really helpful thanks Biwi. My stress levels are indeed insane right now for numerous reasons. And of course as a night worker sleep is always less than ideal for me...

Stuntnun, interesting about 6 month mark. I started may 19th so roughly 5.5 months in. I think i naively assumed I'd get another 2st off by late january which is definitely not realistic at this point now. I know 3st is amazing but I'm such a big girl, I'm nowhere near target yet so I'm incredibly sad that it suddenly feels so hard when overall, its been a fairly enjoyable journey thus far. I find its messing with my mind a bit, I'm 2nd guessing my usual meal choices and getting a bit confused even though i know what I'm doing is right if that makes sense. I feel I'm losing clarity.

Rayna37 · 02/11/2020 09:50

NSV for me in that I have two very similar pairs of slim fitting black work trousers, both M&S size 10. The older ones were in regular use but have been relegated now as too baggy, and the newer tighter much smaller, bloody erratic M&S sizing pair brought into use!

BIWI · 02/11/2020 09:51

@Takingontheundead

I know I've said this to you before, and I know it's very easy to say (!) but I think you need to take a big step back and try and get a better perspective on things. Ask yourself:

  • are you enjoying your food?
  • do you feel deprived?
  • if you are, what is that you're missing? Are they things that would help or hinder you? (Hint - it's probably the latter!)
  • how would you be feeling if you were counting calories or going low fat?

If you're working nights, and under stress then this is bound to have an effect. Stress and lack of sleep produces a lot of cortisol, which impedes weight loss.

Are you doing anything to help you relax? Could be exercise, could be some kind of meditation - could just be time for yourself, sitting and doing nothing!

Do you plan your meals? If you don't, I'd suggest that you sit down and work out what you're going to cook and eat for all of this week - that way you'll definitely be in control of what's going in your mouth. Also, by planning it up front, it takes some of the confusion and 'floundering' about it out of the way.

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Jdhshekr · 02/11/2020 09:53

Bloody hell, 2lbs off for me this week. I’m really surprised as it’s only 5 days since I last weighed myself. I wasn’t going to weigh until Friday or Saturday but the gyms will be shut by then so I did it today. That’s half a stone off since starting bootcamp and roughly a stone and three quarters since I started LCHF exactly 3 months ago. Very very happy with that especially as I finally got into healthy BMI territory today! 🎉

Anotherducker · 02/11/2020 09:57

Thanks @BIWI
2lbs off for me. I stuck to normal Bootcamp all week, so allowed a small portion of rice and a small brownie this weekend. Hope that doesn’t deserve too much stick.

EarlGreyHot · 02/11/2020 10:02

1lb off in week 2 so 8lbs in total. Feeling quite pleased as I pre-empted week 3 by having some wine at the weekend. Think I'll continue on full Bootcamp for week 3 and see where that takes me.

Thanks BIWI
Well done to everyone on their losses, NSVs and KOKO!

BIWI · 02/11/2020 10:03

Great news @Jdhshekr Flowers

@Anotherducker - go easy on the rice. It's definitely a 'no no' on Bootcamp! It's also very high in carbs, so really won't be doing you any favours in the longer term.

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sheepysheep · 02/11/2020 10:05

Yay 1lb down despite a very trying week.

I’m from wales originally so we would normally have been down there to visit. Obviously we couldn’t this time and I’ve been missing my family. We are now in isolation as the one person we met over half term has since tested positive for covid:-( Day 7 today and still feeling ok but very stressed as I am trying to WFH and do home learning with two kids. I know everyone else is used to this but I’m not as I worked all through the first lockdown (key worker). Spent ages yesterday fannying around doing an online groceries order and we have now been flooded in.... very nervous that the delivery van won’t be able to get to us tomorrow. We’ve been up a lot in the night pumping water and digging drains out trying to stop the water getting into the sheep sheds but it’s a difficult battle! The sun was out first thing but it’s started raining again... but the good news is that I’m feeling great and energised and have managed to resist diving into the cake tin!!

Well done on all the losses and NSV and KOKO everyone

Kleptronic · 02/11/2020 10:14

Would someone put 162 in the spreadsheet for me please? I'm having a tech meltdown Smile

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 02/11/2020 10:18

Hit my target weight this morning! Been bootcamping since feb half term and will keep going for a few more weeks to really cement the new weight (it's probably a bit of a blip tbh).

But then need to figure out a maintenance plan. As a veggie Lchf is pretty restrictive and boring as a WOE and I miss fruit so want to go to maintenance balancing just eating healthier. Will radically cut back on the obvious carbs - sugar, pasta, rice and potatoes but will be lightening up on strictness.

Any tips or big mistakes to watch out for?

BIWI · 02/11/2020 10:18

@Kleptronic

I think the spreadsheet is having a meltdown!

Here's a new link:

The SoF

Hopefully that will work!

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AthelstaneTheUndeady · 02/11/2020 10:20

SPREADSHEET WARNING

Please, people, don't add 'comments' to the spreadsheet as it will leave a note with your real name on it.

I've just taken down the current one, and @BIWI will post a new link to a clean version in a minute (one WITHOUT your real names in it).

Unfortunately I can't just delete comments, so we need to re-upload the spreadsheet each time.

It's perfectly safe to add your weights into the weights column, or indeed, to add text into any cell you feel like - just don't create comments on cells. Flowers

BIWI · 02/11/2020 10:22

@ThinkAboutItTomorrow

Brilliant! Flowers

The trick with maintenance is to very gradually increase your carbs, so you can find out what you can and can't tolerate.

Start with the lower carb options - e.g. some fruit, introducing pulses - but not all at once. So perhaps only at one meal time.

Set yourself an upper weight limit that is your absolute maximum you're prepared to see on the scales - you have to accept that your weight will fluctuate daily, as this is quite natural. It also allows you to have the odd higher carb meal here and there.

But you need to remain vigilant - so keep weighing yourself and noting the trend. If it's bobbing up and down, that's fine. If it's gradually going up, that's time to take action.

But you know what to do!

You now have all the tools and techniques at your disposal to control your weight. If you see and upward trend, go back to Bootcamp for a few days till the trend is downwards again.

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SuperbGorgonzola · 02/11/2020 10:30

End of Week 1 for me and I'm down 6lb to 13st 8 so absolutely delighted. I'm really going to work hard during Week 2 to try and get ahead before the Plateau Zone. 13st 4 and I have a tetchy relationship so the least time I can spend on that sticky menace of a pound, the better.

I've finally bought myself some new running leggings after my last ones got chub rub holes, and with lockdown looming, I've no excuse not to get back to my running. I have just about completed C25k and was finally able to run (slowly!) for 30 mins without stopping. I need to remind myself of how proud I was and how much I enjoy the fab podcasts I listen to.

B- smoked salmon and scrambled eggs
L- creamy cauliflower and leek soup
T- pork steaks with peppercorn sauce and garlicky green beans.

SuperbGorgonzola · 02/11/2020 10:32

ThinkAboutItTomorrow amazing- well done!!! Star