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Low-carb bootcamp

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Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - the prep thread

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BIWI · 07/10/2020 19:41

So we have about 10 days until we start. One of the key factors for success is being prepared and planning ahead.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind, including your kids' bagels!)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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anewdispensation · 10/10/2020 21:53

I am definitely in. When does this start

BIWI · 10/10/2020 21:54

@anewdispensation Monday! Go and find the sign-up thread!

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anewdispensation · 10/10/2020 22:06

Thanks @BIWI I have seen it and signed up now. I’m definitely in as I feel bloated and terrible from all the sugar. Did this last year and lost 2 dress sizes but lockdown stress has seen me pile the weight back on.

I have come to the sad realisation that as I get older to maintain a healthy weight carbs have to go. Intermittent fasting and low carb are great for weight loss and a good mental health for me

20bloodypounds · 10/10/2020 23:36

@msawesomedragon have you tried cabbage rice? I hate cabbage - the smell, the taste - yuk! But I blitzed it in the food processor then fried it with onion and celeryand butter. Amazing!!

20bloodypounds · 10/10/2020 23:37

I made the cabbage rice into a sort of kedgeree with smoked fish and soft boiled egg.

MsAwesomeDragon · 11/10/2020 00:23

I haven't tried cabbage rice @20bloodypounds. And I probably won't. I have a complete denial that I might ever like cabbage in any way. Cauliflower is/was a dislike, cabbage is a hate thing. I think it's from the way my parents and their friends cooked it when I was a child (basically boiled to death and plopped on the side of an otherwise lovely meal), and I can't imagine ever liking it no matter how is cooked. 🤮

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 11/10/2020 04:36

Hi BIWI (and everyone), part of me really wants to join you but the other part of me thinks I'd just be setting myself up for failure because i haven't had enough time to prepare mentally or practically. Goodness knows I need to do something though, I am at my heaviest ever and I feel truly horrible about myself and how far I have let myself go... I do have a question though - my cholesterol is quite high and so I'm worried about upping my intake even further of butter, eggs, cheese, cream and so on. I'm seeing my doctor on Tuesday so what should I ask her about it?

I do all the cooking for the family but I think they would be ok with less rice, pasta and potatoes so that is a good thing.

BIWI · 11/10/2020 09:31

@HeartsTrumpDiamonds hmm - sounds like a bit of an excuse to me!

Why don't you just read/observe for the next week, while planning and prepping and then join us in week 2?

Re cholesterol - is it Familial hypercholesterolemia (a genetic disorder) or just generally high? And do you know the specific numbers? (You should have it broken down into three different measures, not just one number)

A low carb way of eating is usually very good at bringing 'bad' cholesterol levels down while raising the 'good' ones.

However, prepare yourself for your GP not understanding/recommending a low carb way of eating - in general they get very little training in food/nutrition, and many of them still recommend the current guidelines, i.e. a high carb diet.

However, just to point out that eating cholesterol doesn't increase your own cholesterol. here's a really interesting article about cholesterol that you might find helpful

And you don't have to increase your intake of all those things!

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juniperjune · 11/10/2020 09:44

Hi all,

Can I get some recommendations as to what I can put in my yogurt for breakfast? Currently I have frozen berries (I've been low carbing for a while but am slipping into bad habits) but see these are off the menu for the first two weeks. Eggs are good but I love my yogurt!

Thanks!

fizzfridays · 11/10/2020 09:50

Hi all, I'm a bootcamp lurker deciding to finally take the plunge! I have been low carb in the past but struggled to stop restricting fat so ended up falling off the wagon. I then went veggie for a few years and low carb didn't seem viable. Since the start of this year I'm back eating meat, and have been low carb for the last month or so. Looking forward to diving into proper BC. Thank you @BIWI for running it.

I'm having facial surgery on Wednesday and it's recommended to eat soft bland carbs like mashed potato or oatmeal for the first few days after, and to avoid anything hard or crunchy. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas for things I can prepare in advance? I've put some bolognese portions in the freezer that can just be microwaved and was thinking of freezing some cauli mash portions too. I'm never sure if you can freeze creamy things, if so cauli cheese might be good

Tornfelt · 11/10/2020 10:21

Hello all
I'm also a bit of a lurker from the last bootcamp. I loved following the chat and info on the last thread, and reached my target weight. I'm now maintaining but would really like to keep up with you all as enjoy eating this way.

Hopeislost · 11/10/2020 10:52

@fizzfridays What about swede mash? Or scrambled eggs and smashed avocado? Or soup?

BIWI · 11/10/2020 10:55

@juniperjune

Hi all,

Can I get some recommendations as to what I can put in my yogurt for breakfast? Currently I have frozen berries (I've been low carbing for a while but am slipping into bad habits) but see these are off the menu for the first two weeks. Eggs are good but I love my yogurt!

Thanks!

Adding double cream is good!

Some people add cinnamon to theirs - not me as I'm not a great fan. Or you could try vanilla powder? Waitrose sell it.

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BIWI · 11/10/2020 10:59

@fizzfridays

Hi all, I'm a bootcamp lurker deciding to finally take the plunge! I have been low carb in the past but struggled to stop restricting fat so ended up falling off the wagon. I then went veggie for a few years and low carb didn't seem viable. Since the start of this year I'm back eating meat, and have been low carb for the last month or so. Looking forward to diving into proper BC. Thank you *@BIWI* for running it.

I'm having facial surgery on Wednesday and it's recommended to eat soft bland carbs like mashed potato or oatmeal for the first few days after, and to avoid anything hard or crunchy. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas for things I can prepare in advance? I've put some bolognese portions in the freezer that can just be microwaved and was thinking of freezing some cauli mash portions too. I'm never sure if you can freeze creamy things, if so cauli cheese might be good

Glad you stopped lurking!

I would have thought that any mashed vegetable would be good, and OK to freeze.

I think you can freeze cauliflower cheese - the sauce might go a bit grainy, but it will still taste good and will be soft. You could always mash it up before you freeze it as well.

What about soup? Make your own chicken stock and you can make lovely soups with low carb veg like celery or asparagus or leeks, for example.

And something that is easy to make (but wouldn't freeze, I don't think - although I've never tried!) would be scrambled eggs.

Good luck with the surgery; hope it goes well Flowers

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juniperjune · 11/10/2020 10:59

@biwi oo I do like cinnamon, thanks!

@fizzfriday cauli cheese would be good, and FF yogurt!

BIWI · 11/10/2020 11:00

@Tornfelt

Hello all I'm also a bit of a lurker from the last bootcamp. I loved following the chat and info on the last thread, and reached my target weight. I'm now maintaining but would really like to keep up with you all as enjoy eating this way.
Hello! Glad you've stopped lurking as well!

Tips from someone who is maintaining would be really inspirational too.

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fizzfridays · 11/10/2020 11:23

@Hopeislost @BIWI @juniperjune thank you for the ideas, I'll have a big cook up today so should have lots of easy-to-heat up options on standby to avoid any carb temptation. I've added avo to tomorrow's food delivery.

Hope everyone is having a lovely Sunday- I'm cleaning the bathrooms today which has the dubious bonus of putting me off food!

ShagMeRiggins · 11/10/2020 11:24

Well, I’m maintaining but really should be losing, does that count? Hmm

Quick wave to all and looking forward to the progress this Bootcamp. Sixty lbs down, aiming for a highly ambitious 20lb more before Christmas. I fee this has to be my big bootcamp if I’m ever going to get where I want to be.

Bring it on.

StuntNun · 11/10/2020 11:25

Juniper vanilla powder and grated nutmeg liven up yogurt.

Fizz I had jaw surgery in the summer and found it easier than I thought to find soft low carb foods: yogurt, scrambled eggs, soups, stewed meat, celeriac mash, fish are all good. If you make cauliflower cheese then cut the pieces up small so you don't have to open your mouth too wide.

BIWI · 11/10/2020 11:26

Shag's Big Bootcamp has a definite ring to it Grin

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BIWI · 11/10/2020 11:45

@fizzfridays

You can also buy frozen avocado (can't remember where I bought mine though) and Waitrose sell frozen, diced celeriac which is really useful.

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orchidsonabudget · 11/10/2020 11:55

Oh god I need this.

aaronsorkin · 11/10/2020 12:01

When do we start?
Also where are you on Smoothies/soup?

Burnshersmurfs · 11/10/2020 12:25

Briefly unlurking to join the other unlurkers. I’m more or less maintaining now, having lost nearly 30lbs on the lockdown boot camp (thank you SO much, BIWI and co). I’m joining in for the first 2 weeks just to have a bit of a reset, and to make sure the good habits keep sticking, and then I’ll post my weight and continue to lurk to keep my head in the game.

BIWI · 11/10/2020 12:36

@aaronsorkin

When do we start? Also where are you on Smoothies/soup?
Monday

Soups and smoothies - depends entirely on what you're using to make them! They have to be made with low carb veg, and no fruit in the first couple of weeks.

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