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Low-carb bootcamp

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Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - the prep thread

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BIWI · 07/10/2020 19:41

So we have about 10 days until we start. One of the key factors for success is being prepared and planning ahead.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind, including your kids' bagels!)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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sheepysheep · 09/10/2020 22:30

Does anyone have any recommendations for low carb microwave meals? I don’t normally eat them so it’s not something I’ve ever investigated.

I work away and next week I will be staying in my normal pub on my own as the owners are off on holiday. I work in Scotland so nothing will be open for food after 6. I will have access to a fridge and a microwave.

I eat anything! But I work in a cold environment during the day and commute by bike so I would like something hearty.

My shoptions are M&S, Tesco, lidl, Aldi or the co-op. Possibly JS online deliver if I organise it now.

Any ideas oh wise bootcampers?

BuffyTheBuffetSlayer · 10/10/2020 01:25

@sheepysheep I'm sure tesco sell meat dishes (either found in the meat or ready meal isle) you can bung in the mic such as pulled pork, lamb shank etc. But you need to choose one where the sauce is separate from the meat as that is where most of the carbs are. I'm sure they also sell veg you can make in the mic. Also in tesco, next to the microwaveable pouches of rice is micro pouches of cauliflour rice (ready in 2 mins). Almost no carbs and can be quite filling. Theres another rice substitute called Barenaked rice, very low carbs.

BIWI · 10/10/2020 07:36

@sheepysheep sadly there are very few. It seems that all manufacturers think that their meals have to have a portion of carbohydrate, or must be based around pasta/rice.

If you have a big supermarket and/or M&S near you, go and have a good ferret around - you may find something like cod/haddock mornay in M&S with nothing else, or some kind of chicken dish.

The other thing to consider would be soup - New Covent Garden make a mushroom one which is reasonably low in carbs. But again, it's difficult to find a soup (either fresh or canned) that's low in carbs.

Will there be nowhere near you that does a takeaway? That could be another option if you want something hot.

Alternatively, could you ask the pub owners to make you something in advance, and freeze for you? (Which you'd pay for, naturally!). Sorry - don't know if these are friends or if it's a more commercial arrangement.

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TeddyIsaHe · 10/10/2020 07:49

@sheepysheep Sainsbury’s have a good curry (lamb rogan or jalfrazi - I can’t remember which one!) which is low carb and no rice.

M&S is your best bet I think, but you will need to take Tupperware with you because I found their low carb meals are generally in foil containers. They have a good haddock rarebit with no breadcrumbs, also lots of their veggie sides like creamed mushrooms/cabbage are low carb and microwaveable.

They also have salami and prosciutto crisps (just air dried) which I am fully addicted to! Those with a dip make a great snack on the run.

tinkywinkyshandbag · 10/10/2020 08:12

Hi I'm in please!! Started low carbing a few weeks ago and felt great but fell off the wagon . Need to get back on it as I find it reduces my need to snack. With second wave of COVID looming I really need to shift some weight. Boot camp rules are hardcore but I really want to give it a go. Off to make a shopping list....

Whogivesatossedpancake · 10/10/2020 09:14

Ready to go on Monday, but i'm stuck for evening meal ideas..i can cook but im looking for quick/simple dishes involving meat/veg.

kirstenmunk · 10/10/2020 09:29

Hi all, just doing my shopping for next week. Is it ok to have unsweetened soya milk insted of milk for coffee? The Sainsburys own brand has less than 0.5 carbs/100mil but I'm worried there's something I'm missing? Thanks!

StuntNun · 10/10/2020 11:42

Kirsten yes unsweetened alternative milks are fine and usually much lower in carbs than moo juice.

StuntNun · 10/10/2020 11:44

Whogives you can just cook your usual meals but substitute a vegetable for the carb. For example Shepherds Pie with swede mash instead of potato, bolognese with courgette ribbons or fried mushrooms, sausages and celeriac mash (Waitrose sell frozen celeriac cubes that are cheap and ideal for low carb), curry with cauliflower rice, etc.

gillyweed · 10/10/2020 11:56

Can someone help me out with the water thing please? I've read all the posts and I'm still confused😬

So I need to drink 3.5 litres, does coffee count towards this?

BIWI · 10/10/2020 12:24

@Whogivesatossedpancake

Ready to go on Monday, but i'm stuck for evening meal ideas..i can cook but im looking for quick/simple dishes involving meat/veg.
@Whogivesatossedpancake go and have a look at the Bootcamp recipe threads, which are stickied at the top of the Bootcamp topic. Lots to inspire you there!
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BIWI · 10/10/2020 12:26

@gillyweed

Can someone help me out with the water thing please? I've read all the posts and I'm still confused😬

So I need to drink 3.5 litres, does coffee count towards this?

What is it you're confused about?

Coffee will count towards it, but really the aim is to drink 'pure' water.

If it's about water in general, and why you should drink so much, here's a piece I've just put together, for a new FAQ I'm going to post:

Why You Should Drink More Water when low carbing

Your body goes through major metabolic transitions as you become a fat burner. Here’s why adequate fluid levels are crucial:

  1. you need to replace lost water
As mentioned previously, your body stores water when carbohydrates are present. When carbs are eliminated, water is also flushed out.
  1. it curbs cravings and regulates appetite
Often, when you experience hunger pangs or sugar cravings when you’re low carbing, it’s most likely because you’re dehydrated. Make it a habit to reach for a glass of water instead of a sugary treat when these cravings arise.
  1. it puts less stress on your kidneys
Ketones are acidic and some of these ketone bodies are flushed out instead of used for fuel to ensure they don’t accumulate in the body. Drinking more water supports the kidneys’ role of filtering out any unnecessary toxins that may be lingering.
  1. water helps fat metabolise faster
The process of beta oxidation (where fats are broken down) requires water molecules. Burning fat costs more water during the process compared to carbs which means more water consumption will help your body break fats down more effectively.

(adapted from www.carbmanager.com)

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NorthOfAmazing · 10/10/2020 14:59

Hi everyone,

I have been lurking on the lockdown boot camp and have found all the info very helpful. I’ve been low carbing now for 8 weeks and I feel well established , but the weight loss has stalled and I feel like I need to go back to the basics. I’m rubbish at eating veg and really struggle to drink water so it’s not an ideal WOE for me but Ive been feeling so healthy on it and it’s cleared up some IBS symptoms I’ve had for years so I’d like to carry on. I’m a chef so have decent nutrition knowledge but I work in a hot kitchen where it’s virtually impossible to keep hydrated and I’m surrounded by bakery items so it takes real dedication to keep going.

Look forward to chatting to everyone and seeing what exciting meals we can all scrape together Grin

Thanks BIWI for organising !

FizzyPink · 10/10/2020 15:11

Really looking forward to getting started on Monday. I’ve got a friends birthday dinner tonight and tomorrow (Italian tonight and a fancy roast tomorrow) so getting my last hurrah in.

I’ve also just had delivered some smart scales from Amazon. I have no idea how accurate they actually are but have told me so many measurements including fat percentage, water, protein etc just from standing on them! Hopefully they’ll prove good encouragement for the weeks to come!

BIWI · 10/10/2020 17:08

@NorthOfAmazing glad you've stopped lurking!

Water really is key to success on this WOE - if you're struggling to lose, this could be one reason why.

Also, if you're rubbish at eating veg, where are your carbs coming from?!

And I have to take issue with this:

it’s not an ideal WOE for me but Ive been feeling so healthy on it and it’s cleared up some IBS symptoms I’ve had for years

Why would you think it's not an ideal WOE if it has those benefits?!

If you're a chef and you know about nutrition, you must have a gazillion ways of making veg exciting and tasty, surely? Grin

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Mimosa1 · 10/10/2020 17:19

I'm not great at the water drinking either so a BC reset will be good! I'm hoping to be under 70kg at the end of this BC. I would be lighter than on my wedding day! Although tbh, I was far too happy and excited to diet that year, so it was a case of getting fat and happy during all the prep!

NorthOfAmazing · 10/10/2020 17:58

[quote BIWI]@NorthOfAmazing glad you've stopped lurking!

Water really is key to success on this WOE - if you're struggling to lose, this could be one reason why.

Also, if you're rubbish at eating veg, where are your carbs coming from?!

And I have to take issue with this:

it’s not an ideal WOE for me but Ive been feeling so healthy on it and it’s cleared up some IBS symptoms I’ve had for years

Why would you think it's not an ideal WOE if it has those benefits?!

If you're a chef and you know about nutrition, you must have a gazillion ways of making veg exciting and tasty, surely? Grin[/quote]
Most of my carbs come from salad items and yoghurt , I could reign this in a bit, especially as I don’t weigh or measure anything. I have a green salad with everything and sometimes if I get too sick of meat I just have the salad.

I do know about making veg tasty it’s just the actual doing... and they’re not my first choice so I always end up snacking on salami ( I know this is processed ) while I potter rather than sitting and eating chicken and broccoli with a fork and knife.

I make some lovely flavoured butter to sauté tender stem broccoli in and different mayos for salads ... I just lack the variety. And I hate leafy stuff so I sometimes blitz it into a cream sauce ( I’m thinking of you, frozen spinach) but otherwise avoid. My OH is doing this with me too but he’s a veggie so already very disciplined with plant stuff.

Anyway I’ll give anything a go Grin but some things I’ll really moan about Grin and you’re right, the benefits are not to be sniffed at !

MsAwesomeDragon · 10/10/2020 19:00

I love veg, in most forms. I don't like cauliflower (although I can seemingly tolerate cauliflower rice) or cabbage, but love all other veg. It took me til I was an adult to realise that I like a wide variety of veg, mainly because my parents don't eat much veg (my dad has digestive disorders that mean he can't tolerate much veg at all).

Dh does all the cooking in my house, so I'm finding low carb recipes and requesting that he cooks them. He's doing quite a good job so far.

Some of the diabetes medication I'm on gives me terrible wind (both ends Blush) when I eat too many carbs. It's an interesting side effect, but it's giving me real motivation to stick to the low carb diet! I was a real chocoholic until a couple of months ago (quite possibly a contributory factor in the diabetes), but I've managed to kick that habit and am feeling much healthier on the low carb diet.

BIWI · 10/10/2020 19:54

@MsAwesomeDragon if you're on medication for diabetes, then you really do need to talk to your GP about following this WOE - because you're likely to improve all the key markers, so will need your dosage to be reduced.

But you can't do that without keeping him/her informed of what you're doing!

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MsAwesomeDragon · 10/10/2020 20:01

Thanks BIWI. My diabetes nurse knows all about my intention to do low carb high fat. In fact, she recommended it. Not necessarily boot camp, but similar. I was diagnosed last year and my hbac1 was 89 (incredibly high!!!!). I did some half hearted low carb last summer, along with taking Metformin and got it down to 68 (still far too high). It was still 68 in June, so she increased my medication to try and get it down and recommended low carb high fat, and to do it strictly.

None of my medication would take me to low blood sugar so she's not worried about my change in diet. I'm going back for more blood tests at the end of November so she can see the impact of the change in diet and assess the dosage of medication. So I've got full permission from my diabetic team. . . Thanks for your concern though, it's reassuring that you care so much about the people on your bootcamp

ZiggZagg · 10/10/2020 20:02

Hello 👋

Any advice about sauces? I love hot chili sauce on everything so can anyone recommend a lower carb one? I currently use Malaysian Special Chili Sauce which has 3g carbs per tablespoon, I'm assuming from the sugar added?

gillyweed · 10/10/2020 20:55

Thanks Biwi - I think I'm confused by the sheer quantity of water needed (3.5ltr!) and how I'll actually drink that much without weeing all day long!

Your knowledge is fantastic and everything you've wrote makes perfect sense. I did bootcamp with you about 7 years ago for my wedding, it worked great, but I've had 2 more kids since then and I've never got my weight under control since then.

BIWI · 10/10/2020 21:04

@ZiggZagg

Hello 👋

Any advice about sauces? I love hot chili sauce on everything so can anyone recommend a lower carb one? I currently use Malaysian Special Chili Sauce which has 3g carbs per tablespoon, I'm assuming from the sugar added?

Most chilli sauces are pretty low - as long as you're not using anything called 'sweet chilli sauce'.

That said, the one you reference sounds like it's a bit too high - all the chilli sauces I searched on the Sainsbury's website were under 2g per 100g.

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BIWI · 10/10/2020 21:06

@gillyweed

You will get used to it! Honestly, if you keep drinking the amount you need, regularly through the day, it will be fine.

@MsAwesomeDragon thank you! But I have to make sure that I post the right stuff/care about posters, as I don't want to be responsible for killing people! Grin

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StuntNun · 10/10/2020 21:41

Zigg I like Frank's Red Hot sauce which is only 1.8g carbs per 100 ml. If you want it really hot then Encona Original Hot Pepper sauce is 1.1g carbs per 100 ml but it's habanero peppers rather than cayenne so it's too hot for me.

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