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Low-carb bootcamp

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Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp - the prep thread

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BIWI · 07/10/2020 19:41

So we have about 10 days until we start. One of the key factors for success is being prepared and planning ahead.

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs. There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread (of any kind, including your kids' bagels!)
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp (which last for 10 weeks), you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream (although in moderation)
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

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Liftupthereceiver · 08/10/2020 18:38

BIWI having studiously skirted round these threads for 6 years, I need to bite the bulletproof coffee . However.. apologies if you have said already, but is tofu allowed? I eat lots of it, as I don't eat meat.
TIA

poorbuthappy · 08/10/2020 18:45

@BIWI
Well I'll be going through it all on here so the questions will be asked!!
Do you think that it would be better to get the carbs from veg rather than pasta rice?

BIWI · 08/10/2020 19:42

[quote poorbuthappy]@BIWI
Well I'll be going through it all on here so the questions will be asked!!
Do you think that it would be better to get the carbs from veg rather than pasta rice? [/quote]
Absolutely! Pasta and rice are verboten on Bootcamp.

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BIWI · 08/10/2020 19:43

@Liftupthereceiver

BIWI having studiously skirted round these threads for 6 years, I need to bite the bulletproof coffee . However.. apologies if you have said already, but is tofu allowed? I eat lots of it, as I don't eat meat. TIA
We really don't recommend bullet-proof coffee, as there's no inherent nutrition in it.

Tofu is OK, but it does have carbs, so you need to aware of that.

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Liftupthereceiver · 08/10/2020 19:44

Fab, thank you.

20bloodypounds · 08/10/2020 22:02

Great prep thread. I feel like a racehorse getting ready for the run...

For FAQs:
Q: Measuring ketones
A: No need
Other Answer: might be useful to help understand how your own body tolerates carbs, or the impact of alcohol. But easier just to follow bootcamp rules.

Mimosa1 · 09/10/2020 08:52

Just marking my place, looking forward to BC starting properly. I'd love to loose another 5kg ahead of Christmas

BIWI · 09/10/2020 08:53

@20bloodypounds

Great prep thread. I feel like a racehorse getting ready for the run...

For FAQs:
Q: Measuring ketones
A: No need
Other Answer: might be useful to help understand how your own body tolerates carbs, or the impact of alcohol. But easier just to follow bootcamp rules.

Grin

I'll post a load of questions and then just answer:

No
Don't be stupid
Who told you that?
Of course
etc ...

Grin
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TeddyIsaHe · 09/10/2020 09:30

Excited for this! I lost a stone doing keto over the summer, but I had a cheat day, that turned into a cheat week and everyone knows how that pans out Blush

I think the encouragement of BC will be a massive help. Low carb until Christmas is my plan, I have around 2 stone to lose so anything close to that would be amazing. My body loves low carb, I just need to listen to it rather than the crisps Grin

Rayna37 · 09/10/2020 09:30

Ideas for FAQs: Water

Q: What counts towards my water intake?
A: Up to two cups of caffeinated drinks per day (500ml total) I think; herbal teas like chamomile, mint, fruit etc, those new fangled cold fruit infusion things, and ideally lots of plain water maybe with lemon/cucumber/mint in it. NOT green tea that's got caffeine.

Tips - Buy a nice new water bottle if you don't have one, or a nice glass even maybe. Figure out if you prefer large glasses or if that actually over-faces you and a small one topped up by a bottle is better.

I imagine there are lots of health tracker app that include water intake but I love the Waterlogged app but I paid (About £4 maybe) for ad-free. You can photograph all your different bottles/mugs/glasses in regular use and add their sizes and log as you drink. I only use on workdays normally but will aim to keep it up over the weekend for bootcamp.

Q - does it really matter/make a difference
A - yes it really does, get it drunk

itsmeagainagain · 09/10/2020 09:50

I drink sparkling water... have a 2 litre bottle at my desk throughout the day and the use a nice wine glass in the evening so I can pretend it’s a nice chilled Sauvignon Blanc Smile

Xenia · 09/10/2020 10:38

I drink tap water and always have a pint on my desk all day (and by my bed at night)

BIWI · 09/10/2020 10:39

@Rayna37

Ideas for FAQs: Water

Q: What counts towards my water intake?
A: Up to two cups of caffeinated drinks per day (500ml total) I think; herbal teas like chamomile, mint, fruit etc, those new fangled cold fruit infusion things, and ideally lots of plain water maybe with lemon/cucumber/mint in it. NOT green tea that's got caffeine.

Tips - Buy a nice new water bottle if you don't have one, or a nice glass even maybe. Figure out if you prefer large glasses or if that actually over-faces you and a small one topped up by a bottle is better.

I imagine there are lots of health tracker app that include water intake but I love the Waterlogged app but I paid (About £4 maybe) for ad-free. You can photograph all your different bottles/mugs/glasses in regular use and add their sizes and log as you drink. I only use on workdays normally but will aim to keep it up over the weekend for bootcamp.

Q - does it really matter/make a difference
A - yes it really does, get it drunk

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Midlifemission · 09/10/2020 12:00

Hello all and thanks BIWI - I am so ready for this Bootcamp.
Without going into a huge self indulgent rant - I know this WOE works for and have lost over a stone on one Bootcamp but then started and drifted off several others ( have name changed!) After a year off piste and eating junk on the run with an awful job plus lockdown I am now at such an all time high I barely recognise myself.
Late 40s so I know it’s going to be tough but also I need to do this for my health and wellbeing as well as good old vanity !
Determined to be a success this time.
I have so far -
Started Sober October on Oct 1 - so the two weeks of no booze isn’t any extra effort. Previously I have let the odd G and T permitted turn into more and probably self sabotaged !
Spoken to DH and made it clear I am really going for it - he is supportive but doesn’t really get it ! He is on his own fitness crusade after a major Op so hopefully we can align.
Stocked up on some old favourites especially allowable snacks to get me through the first week.
Roll on Monday

poorbuthappy · 09/10/2020 12:49

Mayo features heavily for me - what is considered low carb from a mayo perspective? Is it 3g per 100g like the veg?

Rayna37 · 09/10/2020 13:44

@poorbuthappy

Mayo features heavily for me - what is considered low carb from a mayo perspective? Is it 3g per 100g like the veg?
I think 3g would be high, especially if you eat a lot. It's a staple for lunches for me and I stick to Hellman's as it's about 1.3g. A lots of brands and own brands have 3-4g and it can vary enormously so always read the label.

Actually that's a top tip- ALWAYS read the label! So much of LCHF is (or should be) unprocessed meat/fish/veg that it shouldn't be a burden to check the labels of anything that has one. It's amazing how things can vary between brands or different versions of the same brand. Yogurt is a key example as another staple.

Coldwinterahead1 · 09/10/2020 14:08

I’m excited as well. How much do people generally lose if they stick to it?xx

BIWI · 09/10/2020 15:08

@Coldwinterahead1

I’m excited as well. How much do people generally lose if they stick to it?xx
Impossible to say! It depends on a lot of different factors - age, sex, how much they have to lose in the first place. And, of course, sticking to it!

What you should expect to see:

Weeks 1 & 2 significant weight loss. You'll be losing water, using up your glycogen stores and losing some fat. It's only in a low carb diet that you'll access your glycogen stores, and this can account for as much as 7lbs, which is why low carb has a reputation as being a diet where you'll shed tons of weight.

We have had people lose a stone in the first week! (This is pretty exceptional though.)

Weeks 3 & 4 it's very common to see little or no weight loss. The body is transitioning from carb-burning to fat burning.

From Week 5 onwards you can expect to lose 1-3lbs a week, which is in line with other diets.

However, unlike other diets, you'll be able to eat lovely, satisfying food and you will not feel hungry.

I'm interested that you say 'if they stick to it' though - please know that low carbing is an unforgiving way of losing weight. You can't have a bad day and then hope that a good day will compensate for it, as you can with other diets. If you cheat, it won't work!

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BIWI · 09/10/2020 15:11

@poorbuthappy

Mayo features heavily for me - what is considered low carb from a mayo perspective? Is it 3g per 100g like the veg?
The lowest carb mayo is the one you make yourself! It's actually very easy and doesn't take any time at all.

here's a very easy recipe using a stick blender which means no drip, drip, drip of the oil! Just bung it all in and it will work.

One thing though - don't use extra virgin olive oil as it's too strong-tasting. You need a flavourless oil.

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BIWI · 09/10/2020 15:16

If you make it yourself the carbs are low because the ingredients are no/low carb. Branded mayo usually has sugar in it, which ups the carbs a lot.

But whatever you do, make sure it's full fat and not light!

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poorbuthappy · 09/10/2020 15:27

@BIWI what's a flavourless oil (if that's not a dull question!!)

BIWI · 09/10/2020 15:45

Never a dull question!

Something like safflower, groundnut (aka peanut) oil, or possibly a light olive oil or a rapeseed oil - it's worth experimenting to see which you like best.

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poorbuthappy · 09/10/2020 17:58

Lovely thank you!! @BIWI

MsAwesomeDragon · 09/10/2020 18:58

Thanks for this. I'm ready to get started. I'm looking forward to the accountability of a group thread. I might not post much during the week but will still be eating properly.

juniperjune · 09/10/2020 21:25

Oo count me in please. I've been low carbing quite successfully however I still have a long way to go and have recently developed a liking for rice cakes that I need to curb!

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