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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Bootcamp Ordinaire - Week 3

561 replies

BIWI · 08/06/2020 07:15

Morning all!

The start of a brand new week. Hopefully it will be a better week - emotionally/psychologically - for us all.

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for you to record your progress.

Hopefully we've all had a good couple of weeks, food and weight wise.

Be warned that we're now in week 3. Many, many, many low carbers (not just Bootcampers) find that the weight loss can slow or stop in this week (and also week 4)

If this happens to you DON'T PANIC! If you've been losing so far, then you know it works. Just KOKO (keep on keeping on) and things will get going again soon.

Good luck to us all [ flowers]

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Takingontheworld · 11/06/2020 15:47

Huge NSV for me today. I had put everything i own into the wash and then remembered I had a school run to do 🤦‍♀️ my fashionista mate sent me a bunch of clothes last year but they were 16s and I was too fat to do them up.

I grabbed some black pencil trousers out from the pile in vain hope they'd see me through the school run.

They only went and did up?! And i even sat in the car with them.. comfortably!?

Made my day.

Ifeelfat · 11/06/2020 15:49

Burnshersmurfs so glad you like your trousers. I LOVE velvet and have several pairs of black (don’t know why) plus various tops. I’m very envious of your lifestyle though that warrants you buying them now. Mine languish in the wardrobe and get pulled out for the odd Xmas party - maybe it’s because of their colour. Where are you going to wear them (so I can live vicariously Grin).

Randomfatty · 11/06/2020 15:52

@MrsTerryPratchett - hi im cooking with butter and do have mayo on my salads as well!

Randomfatty · 11/06/2020 15:54

think I just have to persevere and not get down on myself!

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/06/2020 15:57

think I just have to persevere and not get down on myself!

Can you concentrate on NSVs for a while until weeks 3 and 4 are over? Better skin, feeling good, my nails are great!

devoncreamtea · 11/06/2020 16:04

Way to go @Takingontheworld 😊
I love those kind of accidental ‘ooh look at that’ moments!
Are you going to go through the rest of the stuff and try it on now?! Report back!

devoncreamtea · 11/06/2020 16:08

@Random - try not to feel down on yourself! Honestly, I lost nothing for the first 2 weeks (started before bc) and I felt really rubbish, drank wine, felt worse and had to start over! Then this week I had lost 5 pounds! It is random !!! But you will get there. And it’s week 3 which is slower. Do you feel good? That’s the important thing Flowers

Takingontheworld · 11/06/2020 16:10

Those whistles trousers are divine!

The rest of the haul was mostly charity shopped as we have very different shapes.. but there is a blazer. However I don't think that'll fit yet as I think I've lost alot of bloat from my stomach but nothing elsewhere yet.

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Rshard · 11/06/2020 16:22

Great NSV takingontheworld!

prettybird · 11/06/2020 16:23

My pattern of weight loss seems to be that I lose on my waist, my hips and my underbust - but my over bust measurement remains the same Shock ....so as I go down the bra sizes, I go up the cup sizes Confused

Burnshersmurfs · 11/06/2020 16:38

Ifeel- I have absolutely no idea where I'll wear them- absolutely don't have that kind of lifestyle, esp at the moment. I think they'll become a staple any-excuse dress up, though, and I'll never tire of them. I just have to be careful not to chuck food, drink and dog hair all over them like I do to most of my clothes.

ealingwestmum · 11/06/2020 16:58

My weirdest shape-shift is in my hands, good and bad. Not from actual weight loss per se, but definitely where this WOE affects my body.

Good, that I don't have the pudgy swollen fingers that were clearly holding onto excess water retention for dear life; bad in that my 3 rings on 2 fingers are at times, in danger of slipping off (when I'm cold).

LostaraYil · 11/06/2020 17:06

@prettybird, I'm a bit envious of your increasing cup size Grin. I don't have much in the way of boobs anyway and they're one of the first things to shrink when I lose weight!
My NSV is that the crepey skin on my neck looks a lot better. I spent a while today wiggling my head in front of several different mirrors trying to see the wrinkles and they're definitely less obvious.

Takingontheworld · 11/06/2020 17:08

Can confirm they're not quite as comfortable post dinner and water 😂

Puppermint · 11/06/2020 17:38

Yes @BIWI shake is a Fast800 one so glad it's allowed on occasion. That said I had a huge omelette for lunch to make up for lack of dinner and I'm still stuffed so will see how I go. Might be a long old fast instead.

Freetodowhatiwant · 11/06/2020 17:42

@biwi sorry that wouldn’t be two bananas a day, just one and the other snack would be a protein shake? But no pasta, no rice, no bread or traditional carbs. Does that not still make it low carb? I’m thinking all I had that was carby was the apple and the banana and maybe the quorn products but they weren’t every day. I did think however that jt was the 1200 cals a day that probably meant I was losing and shit loads of exercise.

Sauvignonismysaviour · 11/06/2020 17:59

Some of my jeans are feeling a little looser. Now, in the past I've just enjoyed the extra room but this time NO. I have just ordered some more jeans in the next size down so THEY can be uncomfortably tight and hopefully help keep me on track. Here's hoping they'll pull over my thighs when they turn up...

Love reading the NSVs and also that people asking the same questions that go through my mind (ie can I carb load at the weekend!)

Genuinely enjoying my food and taking it "one day at a time" really helps. We just had chicken, chorizo & feta for dinner. Husband with truck load of pasta, me with spinach, it was delicious and I did not miss the pasta at all!

NumbsMet · 11/06/2020 18:34

Apologies but I can't find any answers in previous posts - what does NSV mean?

I've had a very active day today going out to get enough shopping to hopefully last the week - I found a totally new vegetable called celeriac!! Totally didn't steal that idea from previous discussions and certainly am not planning to make chips and mash Grin

bibliomania · 11/06/2020 18:41

Nsv is non-scales victory.

Ottolenghi has a fab recipe for roast celeriac with cafe de Paris sauce in the Guardian. Can't link from phone but it's easy to find on Google.

PseudoBadger · 11/06/2020 18:44

Non-Scale Victory

Randomfatty · 11/06/2020 18:52

[quote devoncreamtea]@Random - try not to feel down on yourself! Honestly, I lost nothing for the first 2 weeks (started before bc) and I felt really rubbish, drank wine, felt worse and had to start over! Then this week I had lost 5 pounds! It is random !!! But you will get there. And it’s week 3 which is slower. Do you feel good? That’s the important thing Flowers[/quote]
Thanks I do feel good - I have loads of energy and my mood is so much happier and optimistic - not giving up - will keep slogging! 😀👍😀

venusandmars · 11/06/2020 19:04

@freetodowhatIwant when I'm maintaining i.e. not trying to lose anything at all, I carb cycle. I've read a lot about it and it's often used by people who are doing pretty heavy and rigorous exercise regimes, often to build muscle. In those situations there are some pretty strict routines of what to eat when in relation of cardio, HIIT, muscle workouts. It's certainly not just fancying a bit of cake with your coffee on the weekend Grin

When I'm choosing to carb cycle I'm doing it mainly for gut microbiome, and one day a week introducing small amount of higher carb food, but I chose low GI and natural - kidney beans, lentils, beetroot, some nuts. And not too much. However, on the day that I have higher carbs I do not also have high fat. So If I was having chilli with some kidney beans, my lunch might be avocado and salad but no olive oil, no mayonnaise.

But no sugar, no flour, no pasta.

The advantage of that kind of carb cycling is I can eat at a friend's house or have a wider menu choice when I'm out or eat a piece of fresh sourdough at my favourite restaurant, smothered in their fermented whipped butter Actually one day a lchf-ing friend and I had lunch at aforementioned eatery. They brought a basket of bread and a (quite big) pot of butter. When they came to take our orders the waiter looked a bit perplexed 'cos we'd each eaten about half a small slice of the bread, but ALL of the butter Grin

Interestingly, last year I did something called 'ration challenge' where for a week I ate only the same food as is given to a person in a refugee camp. It was difficult timing in the middle of bootcamp, but I was committed to it. It was everything we don't eat on bootcamp - beans, lentils, flour, rice, only a couple of small pieces of vegetable in the week, and a small amount of protein (tinned fish and one egg). It was nutritionally balanced and about 1500cals (more than I was eating on bc), however, with the exception of loads of rice and flour, the quantities were small. Over the week I lost a pound, but I was hungry.

My conclusion (apart from all the other lessons I learned) was that I could lose weight on either a low fat carb-based diet OR on a lchf regime, but NOT on high fat high carb as lockdown has proved. And of the two ways of eating, I know which I prefer.

Apologies for the long post and apologies that some will have heard it from me before Blush

BIWI · 11/06/2020 19:28

[quote Freetodowhatiwant]@biwi sorry that wouldn’t be two bananas a day, just one and the other snack would be a protein shake? But no pasta, no rice, no bread or traditional carbs. Does that not still make it low carb? I’m thinking all I had that was carby was the apple and the banana and maybe the quorn products but they weren’t every day. I did think however that jt was the 1200 cals a day that probably meant I was losing and shit loads of exercise.[/quote]
But one banana is still 23g of carbs! The apple would also be carby, and I'd put money on your protein shake being low fat and high carb.

You were losing weight because it was low fat/low calorie - nothing to do with the carbs.

Sorry if this sounds patronising, but I'm going to say it anyway - go and have a read of the resources on the spreadsheet to find out what a low carb diet is really all about!

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NumbsMet · 11/06/2020 19:51

Ah! I understand now. I'm just about to make dinner and I will use that 'free time' to think of my NSV Smile

1WildTeaParty · 11/06/2020 20:00

Thanks for describing your experience @venusandmars

It would be all too easy to carefully combine two different ways of eating only to up twice as heavy :)

I agree on which one to choose and don't want to be hungry/cold/tired in order to get lighter. Losing weight is only part of the solution. We have to find a way to live that doesn't lead us right back to the beginning.