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Low Carb Bootcamp - our final weigh-in!

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BIWI · 19/03/2018 07:19

Good morning!

Well, we've finally reached the end. Here's the spreadsheet, for the last time

It feels to me like it's been a really good Bootcamp, with lots of NSVs as well as success on the scales. Hopefully today sees another good reading on the scales too!

As I've said on previous threads, just because we've reached the end of this Bootcamp, it doesn't mean that we all just melt away - I'll keep this chat thread going and when it fills up, I'll start another general chat one, so there's always someone here for help and support as well as ongoing low carb stuff.

I'll probably put the big stick back in its cupboard for a while though Grin

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AthelstaneTheUnready · 03/04/2018 18:20

Hi, all, hoping for a bit of advice.

I've been AWOL for a week, not because I was off the rails (although I did drink a bit over the weekend), but because I've had the most awful IBS type lower bowel cramps and have felt appalling, not to mention not sleeping for the pain.

So I'm now feeling a bit better, but am terrified of fibrey food, i.e. the bulk of my normal diet - FLGV. Although any food set it off 6 hours later...

Have any of you had IBS type problems, and if so, what was the least risky thing to eat did you find?

wombattoo · 03/04/2018 19:09

Hello everyone.
Twinkle Congratulations.Thanks

I've lurked on 1 or 2 of the threads this past bc. Congrats to all that have done so well.

I thought I'd give a quick update to anyone who's interested - the cancer has hopefully been removed through surgery. I am having ongoing, unrelated medical issues but I am feeling fine.

I have gained just under a stone in weight (as i have eaten loads of carbs)
I am planning on getting back on the wagon tomorrow but also planning on a name change.
I'll be back in the next couple of days. Smile

prettybird · 03/04/2018 19:20

Time - there is/was a half marathon in Inverness - but last month Shock There is a Loch Ness Marathon in September which seems to include a 10k but not a half. So Glasgow does look like your best bet.

Wombat - great news Flowers and look forward to "seeing" the new you shortly Smile

ilovecherries · 03/04/2018 20:07

wombat, was just thinking about you today. Lovely to have an update and hope everything settles down for you soon.

Rshard · 03/04/2018 20:14

Lovely update wombat!

wombattoo · 03/04/2018 20:26

Thank you.
Cherries I have been stalking you on the Hush threads. Stalking is a bit strong, but I lurk on those threads Grin

ilovecherries · 03/04/2018 21:00

Wombat, I just love those threads - such a lovely bunch of women. I'm making up for 25 years of not being able to shop!

BIWI · 03/04/2018 21:55

Welcome back, @wombattoo - I was just thinking about you the other day and wondering your op/recovery was going.

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twinkledag · 04/04/2018 09:15

Great news @wombattoo Thanks

Rayna37 · 04/04/2018 15:32

Frustrating day yesterday as unhappy teething cold-riddled 6 month "half birthday" baby lead to a difficult day with no run despite wearing my kit all day. Ok for food though:
B: scrambled eggs
L: kalettes, streaky bacon, shallots cooked in butter with Parmesan
D: out for curry, various lamb, chicken and veg dishes all delicious and just one bite of DH's naan.

ilovecherries · 04/04/2018 16:39

I'm feeling a lot less hungry now I've upped my fat again, I was just miserable the last two weeks, was only willpower that was keeping me going. I can't believe how easily (still, after all this time!) I drift to LCLF if I take my eye off the ball. I still don't really understand why that also stalls weight loss, given my calories must drop during that time, but it does (I keep thinking I understand it, then realise I don't really, but I feel rubbish so I will just eat more fat and I know I will feel better)

BerylStreep · 04/04/2018 17:55

Athelstane I have ulcerative colitis, and I saw a dietitian about it. She advocated low Fodmap, might be worth considering? It could be combined with low carb but there are some surprising Fodmap foods such as onions that they suggest avoiding. I'll have a look at the literature on it later to see which vegetables they suggest cutting out.

StuntNun · 04/04/2018 18:09

I'm feeling a lot less hungry now I've upped my fat again... . I can't believe how easily (still, after all this time!) I drift to LCLF if I take my eye off the ball. I still don't really understand why that also stalls weight loss, given my calories must drop during that time, but it does (I keep thinking I understand it, then realise I don't really, but I feel rubbish so I will just eat more fat and I know I will feel better)

Cherries you are still buying into the calories in - calories out myth. You already tried reducing your calorie intake and it didn't produce sustained and lasting weight loss. That's because it doesn't work! Yes there are some genetically-blessed and metabolically healthy people who can lose weight by eating less and moving more but they are in the minority. If it was that easy then we would all be slim! And there are also miserable people with wills of iron that can commit to chronically underfuelling their bodies for the rest of their lives in order to stay thin but that would really suck and they are few and far between.

LCHF is not a calorie-restricted diet when done properly. If your body needs 2,000 calories a day then you give it 2,000 calories a day. Yes that might be 1,500 calories from food and 500 calories from your own fat stores but it's still 2,000 calories. Your body is being properly fuelled, nourished well if you're eating a FLGV so it can perform properly without inflammation, with a good hormonal balance, without breaking down lean body mass, it can continue to replace 'old' tissue and replenish your bones.

Once your body is working properly on LCHF, i.e. you've passed the adaption phase, then you cannot trick it by trying to cut calories again. You need to have enough calories coming in to the system. You have to restrict carb and protein calories to around 5% and 25% therefore your fat intake has to be high to make up the rest of your calories. Your body will not give up 1,000 calories of fat stores a fat, that would be suicidal for humans living in a primitive environment. So unnecessarily restricting your calories leads to the famine reaction. You might lose weight initially but you will rapidly become lethargic, hungry, stress hormone levels will rise, your blood glucose goes up, and weight loss stalls.

When you eat LCHF your body is primed to use fat for energy. Once you use up the dietary fat coming in then your body goes looking for more fat to burn and uses up what's coming out of your fat cells. When you're eating high carb then the fat is locked away in the fat cells and easily can't get out to be used up (because insulin levels are too high).

In short, you need to keep eating the delicious fat to lose weight!

StuntNun · 04/04/2018 18:48
  • 1,000 calories of fat stores a DAY
ilovecherries · 04/04/2018 18:59

Thanks Stunt, it's odd, because I never deliberately cut calories, but somewhere deep in my unconscious there must still be a belief about them, because as soon as I take my eye off the ball, which has happened recently for various life-happens reasons, my fat intake drops, my calories drop, and while I'm still low carbing, I suddenly notice I'm feeling hungry and rubbish. As soon as I up my fat, I feel better again.

ilovecherries · 04/04/2018 20:53

But basically, have I just fucked my metabolism up so much over the years, that I'm never going to be able to tolerate dropping my fat? At only a couple of pounds from my target, I'd have hoped I would've been more flexible by now. Although still don't know how I'd tolerate carbs, as I dont eat many apart from FLGV.

BlackMozart · 04/04/2018 21:47

Well done time and great update wombatoo
My accountability has improved over the last few days and I am eating well and not drinking. A little dark choc still (which is my downfall) but I have not suffered from being hungry despite being a twat and eating hot cross buns over the easter weekend.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 05/04/2018 06:49

Great news Wombat Flowers

Hooray for the weight, alcohol, and running Time Grin

@BerylStreep - many thanks for the suggestion. I was coming on to say I'd had the first unbroken night for 10 days, but have just had the most horrendous spasm again. I'll have a google at FODMAP, thank you.

Cherries, I don't think (from what Stunt's saying) that you've fucked up your metabolism. It sounds like it's working exactly as it should, which is to say, a metabolism that wants sufficient food and not too much of the insulin-spiking stuff.

Bluntness100 · 05/04/2018 07:00

Morning all.

That's good news wombat , happier days ahead..💐

Athel. No, but maybe you could try on one of the health forums on here? Hope it gets better soon.

I'm not sure I agree with your theory there stunt nun, sorry 😔. Things like the Dukan diet clearly work and are very low fat. I've done it myself and it works.and it works well. In addition, Everyone loses weight if they eat at a calorie deficit.

Cherries, it depends what your total calorie intake is when you drop the fat. If you were eating at a calorie deficit you'd be losing weight, so i suspect you're not, you're probably eating more than you think....maybe due to less fat making you subconsciously hungrier.

BrassicaBabe · 05/04/2018 08:08

Good morning.
I quick, maybe daft question, any skin problem side effects with LCHF? I've posted in general health, but this woe is the main lifestyle change I can think of.

I've got lots of red dry patches of skin over my body, mainly torso. Any chance I'm missing some nutritional group? I have been rather slack on the FLGV recently Sad

ilovecherries · 05/04/2018 08:22

Brassica, the one body organ that I have that seemed to work ok before LCHF, and which has been problematic since I started, is my skin. I seem to have developed a pretty constant urticaria of red, scaly, itchy bits. If I drop my carbs too low, the itch is hideous, and has been almost from the start. GP ran a load of blood tests because I started to get worried about it, but nothing found. The only hypothesis he had was it was down to weight loss itself changing the underlying skin structures. I use a big tub of E45 cream every week, which helps a fair bit.

BrassicaBabe · 05/04/2018 08:24

Thanks cherries I look like a Dalmatian! Is this what you had? Pic

Low Carb Bootcamp - our final weigh-in!
ilovecherries · 05/04/2018 08:44

Don't want to do diagnosis by internet, but yes, looks very similar. My patches get so big they often seem to join up so sometimes they are huge. I get them all over my chest, abdomen, paper arms and upper legs. Face, back, arse, lower limbs are never affected. GP said to try and keep on top of it with loads of moisturisers twice a day, and if the itch gets bad, to use the E45 anti itch cream (not the hydrocortisone one, the one with urea) and take an antihistamine.

ilovecherries · 05/04/2018 08:46

Initially I thought mine was pytarisis rosea, but when it didn't go away, I did start of get worried.

ilovecherries · 05/04/2018 08:49

Pityriasis, I mean. Why does auto correct always think it knows better than me, when it clearly doesn't!

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