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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Preparing for Bootcamp - starting on Monday 9 October!

371 replies

BIWI · 06/10/2017 09:06

Lots of people have signed up for this one - no doubt thinking about Christmas and squeezing into that little black dress!

So in advance, here's some stuff to think about so you can get planning over the weekend.

1- How long is Bootcamp?

Bootcamp lasts for 10 weeks, so our final weigh-in will be Monday 18 December.

The first two weeks of Bootcamp are the strictest, to help you shift your body away from burning carbs for fuel, to burning fat for fuel.

After the two weeks are up, you can move to Bootcamp Light, which is a little bit more relaxed. If, though, strict Bootcamp is working for you, you can stay on that. Or you can do a hybrid, following Bootcamp during the week but switching to Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

2 - Bootcamp should be easy to follow

There is absolutely no need to weigh anything, or count the carbs in anything. Nor do we count calories. Just follow the rules (only 10 of them!) and you will be fine.

Low carbing isn't the easiest WOE (way of eating), because our contemporary diet is built around carbs. Just take a look at any high street coffee shop or takeaway - all carb central!

And you may find the first few days tough going, until your body adjusts, but once you're into it, it's a simple plan. It's made that way because I'm a lazy arse who can't be bothered with all that weighing and counting!

3 - Foods that you're not allowed to eat during Bootcamp

Absolutely NONE of the following:

pasta/noodles
rice
bread (in any form - so no wraps, bagels, pittas, naans, chapattis, etc)
barley/oats/quinoa (or other grains)
flour
cake/muffins/brownies/flapjacks
potatoes
other sweet vegetables - especially sweet potatoes/sweetcorn (the clue is in the name!)
pulses/legumes (e.g. peas, lentils, chickpeas, kidney beans etc)
balsamic vinegar (it's made differently from other vinegars and is very high in carbs - wine vinegar is fine)

4 - Well what can I eat then?!

We're aiming to switch the ratio of macronutrients from carbs:protein:fat to fat:protein:carbs.

This is a high fat diet. This is something that blows most people's minds when they first start out low carbing. We've been told for the last 30-40 years that fat is bad for us, but this simply isn't true. It's a claim that was initially based on bad science and given further credence by politicians and the media.

Good sources of fat include olive oil, coconut oil, butter, cheese and cream. You will find that not only will your food taste absolutely delicious, but it's also very satiating. You will not be hungry on a low carb diet!

Other things to include in your diet are fattier cuts of meat and fish. Stop seeking out low fat chicken breast with no skin, and embrace the loveliness of roast chicken with lots of gorgeous crispy skin!

Buy mince with a higher fat content. It will have a much better taste than low fat stuff.

Fry your food rather than grill it, etc.

Your carbs on this WOE will come mainly from vegetables and salad. When I post the spreadsheet on Monday morning you'll see on the tabs at the bottom that there's a list of vegetables and their carb counts - if you stick to veg that's around 4g carbs per 100g or less, you'll be fine. Higher carb veg occasionally is OK.

If you've been used to basing your meals around pasta or rice - which lots of us do, especially if you buy a lot of ready meals, you'll have to re-think your approach to meals/cooking.

Here are some examples of meals that I might cook:

•Roast chicken with roasted vegetables• (e.g. shallots, leeks, fennel, courgettes, peppers, cauliflower). Veg roasted in olive oil, and oil or butter on the chicken skin

Marinated salmon fillets with stir-fried vegetables (salmon marinated for c. 20-30 minutes in olive oil, with garlic, ginger, soy sauce, lemon juice and Chinese 5 spice powder); veg could include mange tout, shallots, baby sweetcorn, celery.

... or serve it with egg fried 'rice' made from cauliflower

This is really easy and tastes surprisingly good - trust me! I resisted cauliflower rice for a long time, because I thought it would have too strong a cauliflower taste, but I was wrong.

To make this, separate the florets of a cauliflower, wash them, and then either pulse in a food processor until it's blitzed into small rice-like pieces, or use a box grater (this way is a bit messy, but works well if you don't have a food processor). In a wok or large frying pan, fry this in some light oil or coconut oil. It's all cooked through, which won't take long, push it all to the edges of the pan, and then in the 'hole' in the middle, add a little bit more oil, and then pour in a beaten egg. Let it set a little bit, and then stir it through the cauliflower, so it forms shreds

Shepherds pie made with high fat mince, and using celeriac mash for the topping

OP posts:
StuntNun · 07/10/2017 13:21

Oncewaswho I buy frozen berries and leave a few to defrost overnight in the fridge or more likely forget and defrost them in the microwave.

Rshard · 07/10/2017 13:26

Thanks wombattoo I've been looking on the diet doctor website, made a cauliflower pizza off it in the week - was yum

ASDismynormality · 07/10/2017 13:41

purpleviolet1. I had insomnia around the start of this woe but it soon settled down and I started sleeping really well.

brassica. Some fish and chip places do grilled fish or roast chicken quarters, would be perfect foods if they do!

wombattoo · 07/10/2017 13:48

brassica 6lbs is fantastic. Do you really want to undo that loss by giving in to fish and chips? I know it's not easy what is? but I would forgo them and eat before I left home or when I returned.

Mimosa1 · 07/10/2017 14:27

Brassica, could you have the fish and pick off the batter without the chips?

yeay2day · 07/10/2017 15:41

How do I sign up for this?

Thiswillbemyusername · 07/10/2017 17:00

I've ate 20g of carbs today and the craving is INTENSE (I usually eat 50+). I used to smoke and it easily rivals nicotine cravings.

My daughter's 2 and a picky eater so there are carbs around the house. Please help me resist!

I sniffed a brioche bun and it smelt so good >.

C4gammeldagthefirst · 07/10/2017 17:00

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C4gammeldagthefirst · 07/10/2017 17:01

Arrrgh I have the bold disease

C4gammeldagthefirst · 07/10/2017 17:13

This - go immediately to the kitchen and hard boil some eggs, grill some bacon, cut up some celery and cucumber and when the eggs and bacon are cool make up a snack box. Use snack box to deal with cravings.
Sniffing carbs is allowed but can lead to licking, nibbling or swallowing whole.

CarbyDiem · 07/10/2017 17:30

I forgot to eat lunch but did find some GF pork scratchings in Waitrose.

C4gammeldagthefirst · 07/10/2017 18:05

Carbydiem may I politely remind you that the scratchy porky snacket may only be referred to as Gammeldags on the bootcamp of "oh shit it's the Christmas party"

Mother Double Cre am has been informed and future indiscretions of this nature may result in you being put on the naughty list.

NOMOREoatcakesandcheese · 07/10/2017 18:12

Or the dreaded Bolding 😜🤣

Mimosa1 · 07/10/2017 18:23

I have discovered that tossing cauliflower with equal amounts of red wine vinegar and olive oil before roasting is DE-lish. Tangy and more-ish. You're welcomeGrin

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 07/10/2017 18:30

had the computer crash, but now the pictures show in the threads. yah

links
[[https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/low_carb_bootcamp/3033696-Keeping-on-keeping-on-until-the-new-bootcamp?pg=2&messages=100
Story on Gammeldags]]
Gammeldags = old fashion
Flæskesvær = Pork rind
and as C4 said Gammeldags rolls off the tongue easier.

Rules for bootcamp are in OLD VERSION Read only BIWI creates a new one with WOMBATTOO and STUNTNUN each Boot camp.

RAGZ you forgetting the pork-crackling-scratching-advent-calendar

C4 Glad you enjoyed the night out and have resolved to do it again and again.

But did you get your menu planning done and food order in?
Looks like you and your PA are going to be designing some new dresses for the next event. Perhaps you need to catalogue the shoes and current wardrobe for better boobage planning.

CarbyDiem · 07/10/2017 18:34

Are Gammeldags GF? Or without the lovely rusky glutenous coating are they just mear scratching?

FAthead pizza tonight. Oh how i love a fathead.

But I'm off to the fair with MiL. Am i allowed a smidgen of candy floss?

ilovecherries · 07/10/2017 18:37

Interesting observations, C4.

I think though it's important to say that many people here will still be well over an optimal weight or dress size, and for some (like me 4 months ago) a size 16 seems like a dream. 10 stone still seems well out of reach, and at my current rates of loss of a pound a week, 10 stone anything is still well over six months away. We don't know anyone's story or history and I feel it's really important that we don't create an environment where people may construe that they are being fat shamed, delusional about their real dress size, (which in itself is a societal construct), or gluttons.

To sign up for this bootcamp will have taken immense courage for many - posting their weight and talking on the forums may take even more. I would want everyone to feel they have a place here. Having lived a lot of my life as a fat person, I know that I was judged, deemed unworthy, eyed up and down. Many times I went out feeling good only to be laid low by a look for another woman, or a catcall from a man. I never felt my obesity was 'normal', society makes damn sure of that.

I know you were only relating your evening, and musing on changes but as I read your post I could feel my eyes welling up for all the times I've been the fat one - and really fat, not just carrying a bit more weight than I wanted, and how it felt to know that other people were judging me. While I've thankfully left that behind now, I do remember that last bootcamp posting my weight was the most terrifying aspect of the whole thing. I'd just hate there to be one woman reading this thinking 'could this be the answer?' who lets fear of judgement hold her back.

If anyone wonders if they have a place here, my answer would be (as I'm sure yours would be as well) a resounding 'yes'.

Namaste
Grin

CarbyDiem · 07/10/2017 18:40

Wot iLove said. With bells on.

NOMOREoatcakesandcheese · 07/10/2017 18:45

Me too x

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 07/10/2017 18:49

Mimosa1 is that a bowl of soup? or was there very little cauli? Equal portions. Wink

on the Gammeldags thread its page 8 they make an appearance Mon 18-Sep but you need to go back to the Friday to get the full story.

ManTheBarricades · 07/10/2017 19:03

Well I feel a bit choked up after reading all this Blush Got my shopping delivered today, and ready to go. Have low carbed before but it’s so punishing if I cheat, and so hard to get back on it. Better not cheat then!

C4gammeldagthefirst · 07/10/2017 19:05

Ilovecherries I love your response to my lunchtime post. Trust me I would never fat shame or judge anyone being disabled I'm no stranger to being marginalised, stared at, pointed at, talked about or being on the receiving end of insensitive comments.

I agonised over joining the last bootcamp too, I know I come across as super confident but in real life I'm not, the whole reason we got Lola was to force me out of the house and into the village. I'm still ashamed of being in a wheelchair in the one place I should feel safe because we became invisible to people who we thought were our close friends.

I'm more angry with society for allowing vanity sizing to even be a thing, along with huge portions, plates, cupcakes and junk food. There is so much debate around people's health and as we all know here the low fat, diet culture and the promotion of certain foods as a treat, reward or allowable sin has an awful lot to answer for.

Namaste Campers

ASDismynormality · 07/10/2017 19:27

ilove. Fabulous response, thank you. Had I read a post on here just before more first bootcamp which was fat shaming/talking about vanity sizing I would not have stayed. I hope your response will reassure people ilove

Rshard · 07/10/2017 19:37

Superb ilove thank you.

NotThereEileen · 07/10/2017 19:39

Well, I meant too pre bootcamp bootcamp, but no. A boozy couple of friends came round so it'll be the 9th. Ignoring the wine it hasn't been too bad does BIWI have a stick if it's not official bootcamp?
B: scrambled eggs and mushrooms, both in butter
L: wine Blush
Chicken and veg, tahini sauce
D: cumin and garlic chicken livers (so so nice - will post on recipe thread as lovely, no carbs and cheap) with green beans fried in the juices and leftover butter