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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Preparing for Bootcamp - starting on Monday 9 October!

371 replies

BIWI · 06/10/2017 09:06

Lots of people have signed up for this one - no doubt thinking about Christmas and squeezing into that little black dress!

So in advance, here's some stuff to think about so you can get planning over the weekend.

1- How long is Bootcamp?

Bootcamp lasts for 10 weeks, so our final weigh-in will be Monday 18 December.

The first two weeks of Bootcamp are the strictest, to help you shift your body away from burning carbs for fuel, to burning fat for fuel.

After the two weeks are up, you can move to Bootcamp Light, which is a little bit more relaxed. If, though, strict Bootcamp is working for you, you can stay on that. Or you can do a hybrid, following Bootcamp during the week but switching to Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

2 - Bootcamp should be easy to follow

There is absolutely no need to weigh anything, or count the carbs in anything. Nor do we count calories. Just follow the rules (only 10 of them!) and you will be fine.

Low carbing isn't the easiest WOE (way of eating), because our contemporary diet is built around carbs. Just take a look at any high street coffee shop or takeaway - all carb central!

And you may find the first few days tough going, until your body adjusts, but once you're into it, it's a simple plan. It's made that way because I'm a lazy arse who can't be bothered with all that weighing and counting!

3 - Foods that you're not allowed to eat during Bootcamp

Absolutely NONE of the following:

pasta/noodles
rice
bread (in any form - so no wraps, bagels, pittas, naans, chapattis, etc)
barley/oats/quinoa (or other grains)
flour
cake/muffins/brownies/flapjacks
potatoes
other sweet vegetables - especially sweet potatoes/sweetcorn (the clue is in the name!)
pulses/legumes (e.g. peas, lentils, chickpeas, kidney beans etc)
balsamic vinegar (it's made differently from other vinegars and is very high in carbs - wine vinegar is fine)

4 - Well what can I eat then?!

We're aiming to switch the ratio of macronutrients from carbs:protein:fat to fat:protein:carbs.

This is a high fat diet. This is something that blows most people's minds when they first start out low carbing. We've been told for the last 30-40 years that fat is bad for us, but this simply isn't true. It's a claim that was initially based on bad science and given further credence by politicians and the media.

Good sources of fat include olive oil, coconut oil, butter, cheese and cream. You will find that not only will your food taste absolutely delicious, but it's also very satiating. You will not be hungry on a low carb diet!

Other things to include in your diet are fattier cuts of meat and fish. Stop seeking out low fat chicken breast with no skin, and embrace the loveliness of roast chicken with lots of gorgeous crispy skin!

Buy mince with a higher fat content. It will have a much better taste than low fat stuff.

Fry your food rather than grill it, etc.

Your carbs on this WOE will come mainly from vegetables and salad. When I post the spreadsheet on Monday morning you'll see on the tabs at the bottom that there's a list of vegetables and their carb counts - if you stick to veg that's around 4g carbs per 100g or less, you'll be fine. Higher carb veg occasionally is OK.

If you've been used to basing your meals around pasta or rice - which lots of us do, especially if you buy a lot of ready meals, you'll have to re-think your approach to meals/cooking.

Here are some examples of meals that I might cook:

•Roast chicken with roasted vegetables• (e.g. shallots, leeks, fennel, courgettes, peppers, cauliflower). Veg roasted in olive oil, and oil or butter on the chicken skin

Marinated salmon fillets with stir-fried vegetables (salmon marinated for c. 20-30 minutes in olive oil, with garlic, ginger, soy sauce, lemon juice and Chinese 5 spice powder); veg could include mange tout, shallots, baby sweetcorn, celery.

... or serve it with egg fried 'rice' made from cauliflower

This is really easy and tastes surprisingly good - trust me! I resisted cauliflower rice for a long time, because I thought it would have too strong a cauliflower taste, but I was wrong.

To make this, separate the florets of a cauliflower, wash them, and then either pulse in a food processor until it's blitzed into small rice-like pieces, or use a box grater (this way is a bit messy, but works well if you don't have a food processor). In a wok or large frying pan, fry this in some light oil or coconut oil. It's all cooked through, which won't take long, push it all to the edges of the pan, and then in the 'hole' in the middle, add a little bit more oil, and then pour in a beaten egg. Let it set a little bit, and then stir it through the cauliflower, so it forms shreds

Shepherds pie made with high fat mince, and using celeriac mash for the topping

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AnotherOtter · 07/10/2017 19:42

Thank you ilove for your post. After reading that my weight of fourteen stone means that I am "disgusting", I was feeling very small and alone. Been varying degrees of overweight, from BMIs of 27-41, my whole adult life so well aware of what society thinks of my appearance and therefore me. It hurt to read that here too.

RaininSummer · 07/10/2017 19:45

Hi all. I am still here and have been doing bootcamp lite since last bootcamp. Think I will join in properly to see if weight loss picks up by removing berries and nuts again (and dark Chocolate). Still feeling great on this woe.

RaininSummer · 07/10/2017 19:49

I love coconut porridge. Don't know if its like yours C4 but I mix flax seeds with coconut, bout of cinnamon and almond milk before microwaving and adding blueberries.

Mimosa1 · 07/10/2017 20:03

Lol @grah.

ilovecherries · 07/10/2017 20:08

otter, not sure if you are a newbie, a returner or a name changer, but it really is fabulous here. This has transformed my life, and although the weight loss is the measurable part of it, the health changes are even more significant. Welcome :)

BIWI · 07/10/2017 20:19

Right.

There are several posters here who have been on the last Bootcamp. Whilst that's fantastic, and I am delighted that you're here, and hope very much that you will provide support and guidance for those new to low carbing, PLEASE STOP POSTING ALL THE IN JOKES FROM THE LAST THREAD

I did post about this on the last Bootcamp thread, and I pointed out that there would be lots of people who were new to Bootcamp/low carbing who needed to feel welcome and included, but despite this, there is lots of stuff that's impenetrable to anyone who wasn't on that thread.

It's not fair. The Bootcamp threads are different every time, and a load of people who have never done low carbing, and they need to feel welcome and equal.

And as for the fat shaming - C4 you should be ashamed of yourself. That was a very ill-considered post.

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CarbyDiem · 07/10/2017 20:30

Also wot BIWI said. With more bells in Grin

CarbyDiem · 07/10/2017 20:30

This could become a habit. I'll just agree with everyone.

ASDismynormality · 07/10/2017 20:32

Thank you BIWI! Now really looking to a fresh new bootcamp!

ClearEyesFullHearts · 07/10/2017 20:32

C4 and ilovecherries, I get both of you.

I think we are all on the same side, just different thoughts and ways of expressing ourselves.

KOKO

Wishingandwaiting · 07/10/2017 20:33

Does the fact that Boot Camp threads restart with many people rejoining from previous threads indicate that this isn’t a sustainable diet? Ie people do it, lose weight.
Then gain.
So rejoin.
And repeat.

Genuine question.

ilovecherries · 07/10/2017 20:38

wishing, not at all. It's just I didn't put the weight on in 10 weeks, so it's going to take longer than that to take it off. I like the support of doing bootcamp, but in fact I haven't deviated off plan since May when I started, and have lost nearly three stone in that time.

ClearEyesFullHearts · 07/10/2017 20:40

wishing, no! Not at all!

For me it indicates that I've been successful low-carving but, having had nearly 100 lbs to lose, couldn't quite manage it in 10 weeks. Grin

So I'm sticking around for a while. After I hit my target I imagine I'll be dipping in and out tonhelpnothers with my vast amount of knowledge.

There are some who have tried BC (Bootcamp) before and given up. Perhaps the time simply wasn't right for them.

I'm nearly 40 lbs down, by the way, which is great. But also means I'll be around for a few more Bootcamp. Wink

RaininSummer · 07/10/2017 20:40

Wishing, no. I haven't put any on. Its very sustainable but I like the support and ideas on the thread and its a reminder to step away from the chocolate. I haven't eaten any of the banned carbs in over four months now and love eating this way. I don't see it as a diet to be honest.

BIWI · 07/10/2017 20:41

@Wishingandwaiting no absolutely not! But most people won't lose as much as they want to in ten weeks, so they continue after each 10 week Bootcamp finishes.

If I could promise people would lose all the weight they want to in only 10 weeks I'd be a millionaire! Grin

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CarbyDiem · 07/10/2017 20:42

Wishing I don't think so. I had never done low carb high fat before the last boot camp.
I don't think I've found a 6 or 10 week cure to my 40 years of seriously poor relationships with food and my body. But I do think I've found a way of eating that means I am eating decent home cooked food, much much less crap, no sugar, more veggies (sometimes -I'm working in that bit). And a way of eating that seems to really suit my irritable guts.
I've not lost loads of weight (because I drink too much wine). But it is sustainable and I enjoy eating. I'm not hungry and reaching for cake to snack on.

For me a second bootcamp will hopefully refocus me and let me make better choices. Cut back on the wine and give me a regular sharp shock to be strict again for a couple of weeks. Re-engage the brain and take control again.

Plus it's lovely to get support and friendship from the weevils in my iPhone.

Wishingandwaiting · 07/10/2017 20:48

Interesting. Thanks for considered responses.

ASDismynormality · 07/10/2017 20:51

wishing. This will be my third bootcamp. I first started in January and have kept going since then, will be doing the next bootcamp in January too - I have a lot to lose!

BIWI · 07/10/2017 20:52

It does, though, raise an interesting point about how much weight you can lose in 10 weeks.

Conventional wisdom would say that you should aim for 1-2lbs per week, so you should be able to see a loss of 10-20lbs.

However, I don't think it's ever that straightforward!

We have had several posters (I've been running Bootcamps since 2012) lose as much as 12-14lbs just in week 1.

But generally what happens is that people lose a fair amount in week one, possibly also in week 2, and then weeks 3, 4 and possibly 5, things slow right down. And then for the last 5 weeks, weight loss is much more predictable, i.e. 1-2 lbs per week.

But only if they're following Bootcamp rules! Grin

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C4gammeldagthefirst · 07/10/2017 21:02

BIWI I wasn't fat shaming, that was not my intention in any way.

I was shaming the fashion industry for making vanity sizing a thing and society in general for allowing us to be hoodwinked into falling for all their bullshit.

But I do have enormous respect for you and your message is received and understood, there will be no more in jokes, referring to Gammeldags.

I hope you don't think I stepped out of line in answering purpleviolet's request for an explanation of Namaste Bitches, C4 and Gammeldags

C4gammeldagthefirst · 07/10/2017 21:17

Manthebarricades this shouldn't be a diet, it's a woe forever that is more healthy and better for your body than a lot of the low fat foods we are pushed towards.
If you feel you have a craving or feel the need to eat a food that isn't part of bootcamp please post here and wait for three replies. I guarantee that your craving/need will have passed by the time you read the third post.
Have faith in you, you can do this and feel healthier and more energetic as a result.

purpleviolet1 · 07/10/2017 21:23

Sorry for getting you into trouble c4.. I just wanted to join in on the fun!

SayrraT · 07/10/2017 21:37

I agree with BIWI each BC needs to be its own BC. I've been doing the spreadsheet for BC since 2014 and every one is different.

I think it does need to be a fresh start to ensure newbies feel welcomed.

I can guarantee we'll end up with new Oct 17 BC jokes. The whoosh fairy and a CrabbySuperpost featured in the 2014 bootcamp but not again! I'll try to be around more but I'm being rubbish again.

StuntNun · 07/10/2017 21:37

Not at all Wishing, I reached my goal weight years ago. I currently have a normal BMI and I wear size 12 clothes. I stay on the Bootcamp threads as an "old-timer" --don't anyone actually call me that or I might cry!" to help out and offer advice and reassurance. Most people take more than one Bootcamp to achieve their goal weight, a realistic average rate of weight loss is a pound per week so as an example it could take about a year if you had 4 stone to lose.

Veryflummoxed · 07/10/2017 21:50

SayrraT be around even if you are being rubbish.