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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 07:46

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

I hope that the scales reflect the efforts you've made over the last, strict apart from the cheating fortnight.

Now you have a choice. You can either move on to Bootcamp Light, which allows a bit of fruit (berries mainly), for you to include nuts/seeds - again, occasionally, and also a moderate amount of alcohol. Rules for Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet, but to make it even easier for you here they are:

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.

You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol

But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:
Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds

Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

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secretsignal · 07/06/2017 11:26

@Craftypuss looks like I was wrong about the coffee! Thanks Ragz you've made my day!

secretsignal · 07/06/2017 11:27

Ooops bold fail. Bloody phone Blush

GoodBadOrIndifferent · 07/06/2017 11:29

Heman I've just said its the right diet for someone who had gestational diabetes if questioned. It's a little oversharing, but I don't think obesity and it's complications are anything to be ashamed of.
Totally stealing 'That's ok, I'm not offering you any 'Grin

cathyandclare · 07/06/2017 11:30

I have at last wooshed out last week's random gain and another extra pound to go with it! DH is away for a couple of days, so I've left the aubergine lasagne for tomorrow and just had an omelette last night. That did the trick- I've found that an eggy meal in the evening really helps to get the scales moving when I've stalled for a bit.

Have made a tray of oopsie rolls and leek and ham mini frittata things and some cacao fat bombs/low carb truffles( in the freezer to stop me wolfing down the lot) so am all set for two very low carb days. Have a very social weekend ahead, I'm catering one dinner so should be able to keep on track but wine will probably be partaken Grin

ilovecherries · 07/06/2017 11:49

Styled, I really think it's just about saying you aren't hungry/you don't fancy it today/you're cutting down on sugar - whatever works for you. I think the day we start eating for politeness (especially in a coffee shop where no one has invested any time or effort into producing the food), is the day this will fail. It's about what's more important to us. I do know what you mean - stopping drinking really annoys other people for some reason, but that's their issue, not mine.

JiminnyCricket · 07/06/2017 11:54

Hey Hey :)

I've been a bit quiet for a few days, AF showed up earlier in the week, (TMI) was unbelievably heavy for 3 days (so much so I had to leave work half way though the day on Monday because I bled through everything and had cramp so badly I couldnt stand up) and has now vanished Hmm. I was really hungry and cranky and headachy for those 3 days with really bad cramp. No idea what that was about!

Last night I made low carb batter made with coconut flour and deep fried some squid and cod cubes in it. Had that with mayo, a squeeze of lemon juice and salad. Nom. Felt rubbish after AF from hell, so had soya yoghurt, cocoa powder and a handful of frozen berries as a treat later on last night.

Tonight's meal is spatchcock piri piri chicken and salad with garlic mayo and for lunch I'm having thai green chicken soup. Breakfast was coconut coffee as usual!

Re: Talking about low carb.

I'm very visibly obese so I get A LOT of conversations started around diet and weight, as an obese person your body becomes a public topic for conversation and everyone assumes you're on some form of diet Hmm

The worst I've had is my Mum, but the bulk of the comments have been in passing from work colleagues. I got a "should you be drinking that" about my creamy coffee back at the beginning and a "no wonder you're not losing weight eating like that!" to my cheese, chorizo and olive lunch one day. I used to post on here about the comments I'd gotten and they really upset me (especially from Mum) but now I understand the comments come from a place of ignorence, and the only was to combat that is to educate. This is how my conversation with a work colleague went on Friday last week:

"Wow Jim you've lost weight haven't you!"
"Yep, about 3 stone since new year"
"wow! Well done, are you hitting the gym?"
"nope"
"aaah so it's all diet?"
"Yep"
"What are you doing?"
"I'm eating proper food, lots of green leafy veg, plenty of good fats and unprocessed meat"
"Oh so like clean eating?"
"A bit, not as boring though!"
"haha yeah i tried that last year, coudnt go without chocolate!"
"Yeah it's hard at the start, once you're through the first 2 weeks though it gets easier to resist stuff"
"Cool"

End.

There's no need to mention you're avoiding carbs and unless they are totally relentless like my mother they really just want to make conversation!

My mum's interest came from a place of fear for my health, but now she sees I'm absolutely fine on this WOE, losing weight and enjoying life she's coming round to it.

Just dont engage if the conversation turns critical :)

Veryflummoxed · 07/06/2017 11:56

Style I tend to vary the days I have salad with days of cooked veg and when I'm feeling hungrier having swede or celeriac. I love salad but wouldn't be satisfied with it as my main veg every day.

I agree there are some people I wouldn't admit to doing LCHF to. I just give very off hand responses though about avoiding sugar, not hungry today, too much breakfast etc. Also when certain people ask me how I've lost weight I just answer "by eating healthily". It's the truth, they just wouldn't see it that way. And yes I've stripped out the insides of sandwiches loads of times and eaten my strange lunches next to people eating white filled rolls, crisps and penguins. So many people are eating differently for so many reasons these days that they don't really seem to notice. If it's close friends who I am as a regular thing so will notice then I just say it and get it over with. They're not going to bother to ask and want to discuss it every time.

Sorry that was an epic ramble. But it made me feel sad that you're eating what you don't chose to because of other people.

Veryflummoxed · 07/06/2017 12:00

Brilliant post Jim. Glad you're feeling better.

StuntNun · 07/06/2017 12:06

Whoever found the recipe for low carb bread a million thank yous. It's a game-changer. I've had it with cheese and also with pate which were all very nice but this morning I had bacon, eggs, and a fried slice! The flaxseed bread fried up very nicely in a lot bit of butter and went all brown and crispy. Om nom nom.

dustmotesinthesun · 07/06/2017 12:15

Checking in. All going fine. I had an egg and some bacon and some coconut pieves for breakfast. Sausages and salad for lunch with some dessicated coconut.
Supper will be roast chicken and veg and probably some chunks of my lovely butter scoffed like cheese Blush

I might weigh myself tomorrow to see how much damage my binge did on saturday. We'll see

dustmotesinthesun · 07/06/2017 12:15

And i adore that bread recipe. And i very rarely lile low carb substitutes

dustmotesinthesun · 07/06/2017 12:15

*like

JiminnyCricket · 07/06/2017 12:16

Oooooh I forgot to mention my token vegan Grin

I have a very dear work colleague I absolutely adore. We've been colleagues for 3 years or so, she's vegan and therefore eats an extremely high carb diet. In her opinion, I'm a carniverous animal abuse supporter who exists solely on dairy, meat and the souls of kittens Grin.. in my opinion, she's a sanctamonious lentil weaver who ignores her canine teeth in favour of a morality constructed soley in western societies where food is plentiful and choice abundant. We actually get on like a house on fire Grin

We got chatting over lunch one day about diet and how different my diet was to hers. As we were talking, my low carb diet came up and we chatted about how I'm feeling ok despite consisting largely of butter and pork belly. Her standard lunch is vegan noodles and loads of veggies, really healthy and she's healthy generally, as am I despite both of us being overweight. We came to the conclusion that we've both discovered diets we enjoy, find easy to stick to and can survive very comfortably on and both of us are losing weight on. We also discussed other people's reactions to our diet and found that both of us have had shitty comments from family and colleagues.

Basically, unless you're doing SW or WW, you're ALWAYS going to get remarks by people who dont get it.

WaaWaaWaaa · 07/06/2017 12:28

Morning everyone!

Yes Style why not just say you're dieting so you're not having a cake. I've just had coffee plenty of times. If they are good friends they wont push it surely?

No one at work has really questioned what I'm eating (we tend to eat in a group of 5-8 of us) my closest colleague knows what I'm doing (prolly bored her to death with it frankly) but the others don't/haven't and its noticeable as I'm not buying food from the work restaurant but bringing my own.

I'm also still loosing! Hope it does continue its really spurring me on. I got a compliment from a colleague that doesnt know I'm dieting! "Have you lost weight?" I nearly fell over! :)

B - Breakfast muffins
L - Pork belly slices, chorizo and salad
D - Courgetti with chicken, chorizo, mushrooms, cream

after a very busy morning I'm a little behind in the morning but I've drunk 2L now.

KOKO have a great day all! X

styledilemma · 07/06/2017 12:33

Totally stealing 'That's ok, I'm not offering you any

Me too Smile

styledilemma · 07/06/2017 12:39

Basically, unless you're doing SW or WW, you're ALWAYS going to get remarks by people who don't get it.

True. I will develop a thicker skin.
I also like the answer to ''How are you doing it?'
'Eating Healthily' short and sweet.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 07/06/2017 12:44

I keep getting asked about cholesterol levels Hmm. I tell them there is lots of research and I am not concerned.

StuntNun I am so making that bread at the weekend and frying it!

B: nothing, fasting
L: tuna mayo salad with some cheese; followed by Greek yoghurt and creamy coffee.
D: TBC, maybe something involving eggs or courgetti.

CaptainBraandPants · 07/06/2017 12:46

Shiny yes, I use pre-grated mozzarella. It has 1.7g/100g of carbs, so not too bad.
Basically, unless you're doing SW or WW, you're ALWAYS going to get remarks by people who dont get it.

So true.

JiminnyCricket · 07/06/2017 12:58

Just had lovely lunch of Thai green chicken curry soup. 10g carb for 200g though so more carby than I wanted really. I'm going to attempt to slow cook my own lower carb version this weekend :)

mummymacphee · 07/06/2017 13:11

Hi everyone,

I haven't posted much but I'm really enjoying reading your updates and getting lots of great ideas for meals. After managing to put on 2lbs in the first week, I then lost that and a bit more this week and a sneaky weigh in this morning shows another couple of pounds off - so 5lbs down overall since the start.

I am finding the eating part of this WOE fine but I am having a really stressful time, both at work and at home, at the moment so I am succumbing to wine on a too-regular basis. Fortunately, I am not snacking along with the wine, which used to be an issue for me - queen of the cheese straws! But, I know that, if I could stick to no wine during the week, my weight loss would speed up.

OldBooks · 07/06/2017 13:12

I feel really lucky now, my lovely colleague is also into low carb and IF so we swap recipe ideas, keep each other going etc. We found a cafe on campus that does almond milk drinks so one of us usually goes over to get us both a 'treat' in the afternoons.

In laws and friends know I am 'being healthy'. No-one said anything about my plate of mayo covered salad, chicken skewers and cheese at the weekend!

The only person who worries me is dear mum. She has a track record of constantly telling me how disgustingly fat I am but then waving cake at me - lots of sabotage. We are going to visit DP at the end of August (they live abroad). I hope to be noticeably slimmer by then, which she will definitely notice, so I will have to be firm in my resolve to stick to the woe while I am away, but I am dreading it a bit.

PlymouthMaid1 · 07/06/2017 13:24

I have just popped into Holland and Barrett and got myself some flax seeds and coconut flour so that I can try some of these 'breads'. Exciting times!

ChesterDrawers · 07/06/2017 13:36

I'd forgotten how lovely flax bread is. Just had three slices with butter, mashed avocado and crispy bacon. Was amazing, just wish it was big enough to make into sandwiches.

styledilemma · 07/06/2017 13:41

Plymouth I bought the coconut flour from H & B on Monday.
I'm holding off on making the coconut bread for a while because I don't trust myself not to eat all of it!
I've made the flax seed bread and froze individual slices to be taken out and used as and when. I'll make the cocount bread when the Flax seed bread is finished.
I can't have stuff like that hanging around. It's too tempting. Shock
If it's in the freezer it's out sight and out of mind.

imustbepatient · 07/06/2017 13:42

For the grated mozzarella, if you want to grate your own, use the blocks of cooking mozzarella which is drier, rather than the balls that come in a pack of water. I'll try and find a pic.

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