Week 3 - Low Carb Bootcamp - where you get to make a decision!

[BIWI]

Afternoon all! Apologies for the later than usual start to this week's chat thread.

Here's the spreadsheet

I was up so early I completely forgot to weigh this morning

Now. It's week 3, so you get to decide. Do you want to move onto Bootcamp Light, or do you want to stay on Bootcamp? Or, do you want to do both - Bootcamp during the week, and then relax at the weekend, with Bootcamp Light?

The rules for Bootcamp Light are at the bottom of the spreadsheet, but in a nutshell it means you can add nuts/seeds (occasionally, and in moderation); you can eat some fruit - mainly berries, and again in moderation, and you can have the occasional alcoholic drink - again, stick to spirits and wine.

If you're happy staying on Bootcamp, that's fine - but if you decide to do this, please make sure you're getting most of your carbs from veg and salad, and not from other processed foods, otherwise you won't be getting optimal nutrition.

And now for the warning! It's very, very common in weeks 3 and 4 (and sometimes even 5) for weight loss to slow/stop altogether. If this happens to you, please don't be disheartened. It's your body catching up with you! KOKO, and things will soon start to move again - albeit that you're more likely to see smaller weekly losses, around 1-2lbs a week.

It's just a normal Pilates class, I think mine is £7 per hour. One to one sessions are £45 /hour but it's more than just Pilates, it's an hour with a qualified physio. You could go for a while and learn the exercises and poses and then do it yourself I guess but I like the fact that they increase the difficulty as you progress and keep you right if your technique slips.

shouldblow - definitely possible but I'd say you were very lucky to find a physio who was able and willing to do it! I had quite a bit of physio prior to starting to see an osteopath, because of various muscular issues in my neck and back - at no point did they say "oh by the way you have 2 s-bends in your back and your pelvis is tilted and twisted", which was the case and was what the osteo dealt with (slowly). I grew half an inch at least from having m spine straightened! But he refused to fix my coccyx, which, after 4 traumas (crashing down onto the floor on it) had become rather bent inwards, because it required internal manipulation. He didn't want to do it, and I didn't want him to either!

Today:
B - mug of fruit tea.
L - anchovy-filled olives, some goats' cheese and a couple of plums (bet they're not allowed either ), fresh prawns and garlic mayo dip.
D - butter-fried fish, green beans and some of the leftover prawns, all with more of the garlic mayo as a sauce.

But had 2 alcohol drinks tonight - about 25ml schnapps with fizzy water.

Be careful going to see an oesteopath if you are hypermobile - one who doesnt specialise can cause more harm than good!

Gonna write off last night, there was gin and there was pizza. I did have chicken wings too though to stay as fatty as possible

Start today with a cooked breakfast (lc sausages, fried avocado, scrambled egg, tomatoes), lunch will be grain free granola and almond milk with a few blueberries, dinner will be a bpc. Very well behaved macros to make up for last night! :) and will probably take more duclolax tonight too as bread does not agree with me

Gcal you poor poor thing, what you went through in childbirth.
to you and everyone else who's suffered/still suffering with their bodies, hypermobility, alignment, everything you've all been posting about!
Thumb intermittant vertigo sounds utterly horrendous.

I almost feel I got off lightly with my 50 hour labour with DD1. Going on for 20 years ago now but I still remember it in stark detail! Was genuinely psychologically traumatised after and only recovered years later really....

Must it's never too late with the pelvic floor. My mum and sister have both had prolapses but I'm damned if I will. (3 x vaginal births later)! Incorporate pelvic floor exercises in your shred when you're doing the abs exercises - just focus on them at the same time as doing the abs. Everyone reading this, do 10 NOW!!! with apologies to BIWI the original stick wielder

ShouldI I just do a local Pilates class. The instructor seems very clued up and she will give me alternative exercises if there's something the rest of the class is doing that isn't appropriate for me. As well as the osteoarthritis I have hypermobility. I was in agony through my third pregnancy with sciatica and hip bursitis, to the point of having cortisone injections to relieve the pain. After a year of Pilates I got pregnant again and had not one bit of bother. The day before I had DS4 I was climbing up the Cave Hill at Belfast Zoo with my toddler on my back in the sling and I broke into a run because I wanted to get my lunch sooner! (The tea house is at the highest point of the zoo.) Even better I had no urinary incontinence problems through the pregnancy and I didn't even have to get up in the night to pee. Pilates is great for the pelvic floor you see.

Thanks nigella, I am planning another baby but this time hope being strong from Pilates will help with the pelvic stuff, thanks for the encouragement thumb, love a positive story!

As for prolapse it's too late but I've went from a cat 2 (borderline 1 which was def needing surgery) to a cat 3 which doesn't due to Pilates/pelvic floor which is at least not painful. Genuinely think everyone should be doing Pilates.

Yesterday:
B: scrambled eggs with lots of butter
L: bit of crab meat and mayo and a chicken salad with hard boiled eggs and an oily dressing
D: grilled minced lamb with lettuce and red cabbage
S: 2 sq dark choc
I also had a large glass of dry white wine (tasted very sweet to me!)

Today:
B: leftover meatzza
L: total FF yog with a few strawberries
D: courgetti carbonara

Thumb I just read up on internal twisting of the coccyx. The physio definitely didn't do that! So I wonder what he did do and what was going on. Around 4 years ago I saw an osteo for 18 months (fortnightly) just to keep the pain at bay. But then I did a year of Bikram and that was the thing that really caused me to be pain free, as long as I keep doing it and take breaks of no longer than a month. But now I'm finding Bikram too hot.

Fathead garlic bread left over from the other night, topped with cherry toms, pepperoni and more cheese. Drool. I know, it's v cheesy and processed meat but I was needing pizza and this hit the spot. Eaten half and will freeze the rest (reheats wonderfully)

stuntnun are you in n Ireland?!!

I do BodyControl (mat) Pilates and would reiterate what everyone else has said about its benefits. I swear I am an inch taller than before I started )which was just before I became pregnant with ds, ie over 16 years ago )

My GP even complained about how difficult it was to examine me during one of my pregnancy checks as my stomach muscles were so strong he made my day

I also had some pelvic floor damage when I had ds (induced, mid-cavity forceps and a 4.08kg baby) which TMI alert meant I had problems with tampons, yet because the rest of my pelvic floor muscles are strong, they can compensate.

I also treat myself to a 1:1 session roughly every 6 months on the instruments of torture Pilates machines.

Will have to try the fat head pizza - looks yummy!

I agree AuntMaggie that fathead pizza looks amazing.

prettybird those are the stomach muscles I want!

How often per week and would the type/calibre of classes run by the gym do the trick? Or do I need something more specialised?

I'm in this for the long haul so I'm introducing a new thing every month (LCHF Jan, yoga and no alcohol in Feb yes I know cutting alcohol meant to be at the same time), then exercise/joining the gym in March and so on. Otherwise it won't be sustainable for me. So I'm researching March's new thing. Would love to do C25K but lower back will scupper me at this stage.

Oooh. I have pelvic instability too. SPD in 3 pregnancies (although not to the point of being on crutches). I stopped bf DS about 4 weeks ago and things are still painful - I am a bit worried it's going to freeze in a funny alignment. Do NHS physios manipulate you? I did go to some private physio sessions a while back which were great, but I can't really afford them now. My core strength is utterly shite, though.

I have found a Pilates class near me. Might give it a go!

Dinner last night ended up being fried red pepper, savoy cabbage, shallot and garlic in pesto, with extra Parmesan grated on top. Then I went out to see a friend and had one glass of white wine because I had to drive home. Not too bad!

I slept all morning and so today so far I have had Greek yoghurt with double cream and a handful of blueberries. I love cream. DH has been shopping so dinner will be roast beef with some form of swede. Gosh, it's nearly 4 o'clock! Better get that on.

I have lost 3lb magically over night, but I had previously gained so I think this is a net loss of about half a lb. But that's ok by me!

Re the RL work crap that's going on - they are not fucking getting to make me fat! I will lose the weight - if only so I fit into my smaller, smarter work clothes for interviews

Generally NHS physios (in my experience) won't manipulate. If you can self refer (you can here but for only 6 sessions )but try to ask for a pelvic / women's health specialist. I saw a lot of numpties in the NHS before I found someone good. She helped but then I had realised that I had private medical cover, had low back nerve blocks and saw a private physio. Throughout pregnancy I saw a specialist osteopath who puts me back into shape.

I am in Northern Ireland Fohamy, I live near Ballyclare.

Stuntnun I'm in Newcastle!

Tbh, Pilates classes at a gym are a bit hit and miss . Some of the instructors have just been on a weekend or even just a day Pilates course and then think that they are "qualified" .

The reputable Pilates instructors have been through a long course with lots of physio type teaching. My instructor is one of the assessors for Body Control Pilates in Scotland: every so often we get "students" who are part way through their course who teach part of the class while being supervised by my instructor. She then gives them feedback and they have to "pass" this as well as the rest of the course before becoming qualified.

I am also left with a f'd up body due to kids. Currently I am awaiting surgery (tho not sure I will do it) for hugely seperated stomach muscles (2 yrs later) and my guts/bowel coming thru the gap. Nice!!
There is also a dollop of escaped fat in there as well just to add to the pleasure!!
Got to say tho my bulge has got less since doing bc!!

I'm on my 2nd period in 3 weeks :( after none for more than 6 months.

It's just so saddening to see the scales go up and mood go down from it, I want to say fuck it and have chocolate but I'll still have the periods whenever I do start losing weight again. What a vicious circle it feels like.

Still on the wagon but having such a bad week of it. Hope everyone's doing well, the pilates sound great. x

Is there a way of finding out what qualifications they have other than ringing the gym? Some sort of accreditation website where you can check?

There is a gym near me that was set up by pilates/gym type people but it is a fair bit more ££ than the council one. Hardly surprising - sometimes you get what you pay for.

Would 1x week be enough? I'd be looking at £12 a class which I will pay if it's good and effective. Costly and it's not a gym so if I wanted to work out in a gym that would be extra. Less inclined to go 2x a week, but no point going 1x week if it's not enough to work.

You could do one class a week and an extra 20 mins a day yourself?

Amazing how quick you get strong. Even doing 20 mins of 100's Lv 1 and some cat stretch would boost the effect of your class.

Thanks Gcal. I have the Darcy DVD (unopened) so I could do a bit of that, although realistically it wouldn't necessarily be every day. Maybe 4 times per week. I'm thinking I might try out Tuesday's beginner class. Still mooching around the idea, but recommendations are high!