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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 4 - January Low Carb Bootcamp - KOKO!

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BIWI · 09/02/2015 07:20

Morning campers!

You know the drill! Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for your delectation

So week 3 is fairly typically a bit of a bastard. And I'm afraid to have to tell you all that week 4 is sometimes its best friend.

Don't panic if the scales aren't moving, or even if you're seeing a slight increase. This is totally totally normal for this period of time

Keep focused, make sure you're following the rules - particularly eating the fat and drinking the water - and things should get going again shortly.

If you're struggling, post here rather than dive into the biscuit tin!

Good luck everyone

Flowers
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MrsKoala · 11/02/2015 18:52

Can i ask those repeat bc-ers a question? Particularly BIWI and Sayra...

Is the fact that you continue to return to/do BC because you put all the weight you lose back on? Do you return to eating carbs and then balloon?

I am concerned about what to do when bc is over.

Mrsstevejones · 11/02/2015 18:52

Oh thanks Lex for the truffles suggestion - i was looking for something to make for DH, he has a sweet tooth so will love these. Aldi are doing little silicon heart shaped moulds - would they work instead of rolling into balls???

Feeling awful today - kids been ill this week and i think all the cleaning up poo and sick has caught up with me.

Had roasted chicken thighs with roasted garlic cauli - looked and smelled nice but i didnt enjoy it. I roasted the cauli on the chicken tray (after it was cooked) and scrapped all the chickeny bits off so they stuck to the cauli, added salt, pepper, garlic granules and a tiny sprinkle of parmesan - was woofed down by everyone. Might make again when i feel like eating.

Totm, 2 massive coldsores and feeling very rough - woe is meeeeeee! Off to bed as soon as kiddies asleep.

nowitsenough · 11/02/2015 18:55

Lex, thank you Smile

MrsHerculePoirot · 11/02/2015 19:07

MrsK I tend to just maintain when not bootcamping properly or put on about 5lbs immediately then maintain. I don't eat many carbs though - this is a way of eating for me that is for life. I might be slacker on allowing myself stuff when out on occaision but by that I mean if I order a caeser salad I might eat the croutons rather than order a bowl
Of pasta or chips instead, or if I have a Sunday lunch out I might have the odd Yorkshire pudding or roastie but generally I stick to eggs/bacon/no breakfast, salad for lunch with sandwich filling/meat/cheese and meat and veg for tea (no pots, rice, pasta but would have higher carb veg without thinking about it too much). I keep coming back to it as I have lost nearly three stone but still have the same again (at least) and had a baby in the middle!

Amaxapax · 11/02/2015 19:20

Yesterday was a cheese-heavy day due to awkward circumstances, but today has been better and I have just had the most delicious dinner. I made cauliflower rice for the first time, and had it with prawns in garlic butter and a side of broccoli. My husband isn't a big fish person so I don't get it much, but he's out tonight so I had it as a treat. I'm ready for him to go out more often, I think!

After staying the same last week, I'm still not feeling any smaller or anything. If I still haven't lost anything this week, I'm going to cut out cheese (sad!) and maybe keep track of calories a little more closely. The last time I was trying to lose this much weight I did WW and it came off really easily, but I don't want to give them my money, I don't want to get back into eating processed foods, and I feel better and more in control when I'm eating low carb. I just wish the scales would drop!

Grah0SoontobeaFatty · 11/02/2015 19:27

Thumbwitch - You put cream or milk in a BPC...Shock

I thought BPC is Black Coffee ( blah organic blah non-toxic fresh ground) -
Instant Nescafe Grin or drip depends on how many having Coffee.

Big dollop of butter and a dollop of coconut oil then blending that turns it out looking like a latte. Must be really creamy with milk as well.

Grah0SoontobeaFatty · 11/02/2015 19:52

Bold MrsKoala

When I came of LC last year - I spent 5 weeks on holiday - staying at friends - drinking ale - going out for meals - day tripping lots of sandwiches and Pies.
Then back home continuing, Christmas office parties etc -
An example of old non-LC portion is large chips and 2 pies with 2 slices of bread from a chippy.
So over 3 months put on 25lb. no surprise eh!

Lost almost 20lb since start of year LC boot camping and controlling portion sizes.

So coming off LCHF boot camp isn't a problem, its reverting back to very bad eating habits that's the problem.

Part of this boot camp lesson for me is learning to eat slowly, smaller bowls and if "a big IF" still hungry in 1/2hour go get some more or a BPC.

For some its
veg isn't all crappy - bread isn't required - Chocolate doesn't need to be in the house. New recipes and fatty food aren't killers but sugary foods are. Stick with this WOE and you'll soon find the old cravings and lazy food grabs become a thing of the past.

Well I hope, not succeeded myself yet but there's a theory and only second time of trying.

readyforno2 · 11/02/2015 19:54

Right everyone. I'm back!
Still feeling a bit sorry for myself but on the mend.

Food today
B - lc sausage, coffee with cream
L - scrambled eggs cooked in butter
D - chicken legs with salad. Mayo

At least 8 pints of water...

Romeyroo · 11/02/2015 20:22

MrsK, I only started BC half way through the last one and I pretty much maintained till after Christmas doing LC but with nuts, seeds and BPCs, when I lost another 4lb on v low carbing, maintained till bC and I am another 4lb down.
So I need to be really strict to lose; if I add nuts, seeds and BPC, I maintain; and I am sure if I add carbs, I would balloon.

I am planning this to be a WOE for life, so not planning on going back on carbs. TBH, they scare me! I am aiming for another half stone off but it may take me next BC as well. Even if I follow the rules, I can easily STS.

LexLoofah · 11/02/2015 20:25

mrssteve yes I should think the molds will work, my DH will be happy to have something a bit chocolatey no matter what shape it is!

mrsk thanks for asking that question, been wondering that myself so will be interested to hear from the bc veterans/alumni

FurFoxAke · 11/02/2015 20:33

Hi all!
Really quickly, thank you for the swede/turnip Wink advise. I was using precubed swede and it took hours. Ugh, I might just lob them in the slow cooker next time in the morning. Grin

I might try the cream cheese pancakes though. Mmmmmm.
Clotted cream with dark chocolate grated over it is nice, and helps keep the chocolate content to a minimum.

Today's food...
B;BPC. Really wasn't hungry.
D;Parma wraps (leafy salad, mozzarella wrapped in Parma ham)
T; stir fried chicken (with butter, cocnut oil,garlic and smidge of ginger), spinach with a few sesame seeds and butter and some left over swede with more butter and a bit of cream.

This is big cooking for me Grin

BIWI · 11/02/2015 20:41

The reason I keep coming back is because I'm running the thing! Grin

But this time I'm doing it because I've let a lot of weight creep back on.

That's been a mixture of things - 18 months ago I started a new job, which means I'm much more sedentary than I used to be. When I worked from home, I used to go running about 3 times a week (on top of two visits to the gym per week). A commute and long day in the office has meant that I haven't been doing that.

Then a couple of holidays where I went seriously off piste, drank too much - and generally got out of the habit of low carb eating. I started to drink more wine again, and allowed the odd cheat to become more regular.

Then this autumn I fell off my bike and cracked a rib, which meant that I didn't do any exercise at all for over 6 weeks.

And then there was Christmas, followed by a work trip to Vietnam for almost a week, where I was served noodles/rice for almost every meal!

So it's been a combination of circumstances out of my control as well as me not sticking to the low carbing that's resulted in the inevitable weight gain.

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BeyondDoesBootcamp · 11/02/2015 20:50

Evening snack - 1 pc 85% choc, cuppa liquorice tea

ChesterDrawers · 11/02/2015 22:08

I've done three bootcamps now, jan and sept last year and this one, and even though I've gained in between - totally my own fault - I've started each one lighter than the one before, so the gains have not been as severe as WW, SW etc. I know I'm not exactly a veteran but one day I plan on being a BIWI bootcamp success story.

No appetite today. I didn't even fancy the bar of 85% choc I'd promised myself as a treat for finishing some work I've been staring at for the last week so it's still intact. Had to force tea down and could easily have passed. Ended up having:

B: BPC
L: egg wraps with chicken and guacamole - won't be having them again, greasy and tasteless
D: pork in tomatoes, courgetti, cheddar

Pleaseandthankyou · 11/02/2015 22:18

Trash, lovely photo. You have fantastically glossy hair. Haven't weighed yet this week. Had an indulgent weekend. Also find I am eating after dinner even though I am not hungry

SayraT · 11/02/2015 22:20

MrsK I keep coming back because I have lots of weight to lose, in total about 7 stone. I lost about 2.5 of that over the BC's in 2014. In between BCs I maintain my weight whilst adding in some carbs (occasional pasta dishes when out, occasional sweets/puddings). I treat the between BC times as practice for when I get to my goal weight.

As with all 'diets' if you go back to the way you were eating before then you will put the weight back on. So if you lose weight on LC BC then reach goal weight and start eating pasta/rice/bread/sweets/puddings/crisps/potatoes etc every meal or every day (toast for breakfast, sandwiches for lunch, pasta for dinner) then you will put weight back on. If you stick with LC principles then you will discover your own maintenance level which means you can enjoy adding some carbier things back into your diet without gaining. Everyone has a different tolerance for carbs so that is why we can't give you a figure of Xg carbs per day to lose/maintain. You need to work that out for yourself once you reach a weight you are happy with.

thumb & Grah and whoever else asked/commented I make BPC with coffee, coconut oil, unsalted butter and a dash of cream. It is delicious, I much prefer it with added cream.

MrsKoala · 11/02/2015 22:47

Thanks for answering everyone. Sayra, i don't necessarily think that carbs in particular made me put on weight. I have lived for years eating muesli/porridge for breakfast, bean soups and a sandwich for lunch, then pasta/rice/spuds with dinner and drinking a fairly hefty amount of guinness/lager and still stayed in my healthy BMI (in fact i'm only just over it now).

It was pregnancy for me that has put the weight on. So while i enjoy this WOE and don't plan to have as many carbs as before after BC (don't miss bread/pasta/rice at all). I would like to go back to eating some carbs (particularly oats and pulses) without the weight going back on.

BitchyDoesWitchyThings · 11/02/2015 22:50

I keep coming back because my eating was so disordered when I first did bootcamp. I had to find a way to not see food as evil and something to be avoided at all costs. As such it is a very long journey to the success point and it will take as many bootcamps (as a poster or lurker) before I suspect it will be anywhere close to a normal relationship to food.

GrahO I already take a multivitamin, huge dose of calcium, and a vit B complex tablets daily. I have just worked out the totals and even between all that the Vit B 3 intake is around 48mg daily. So I could look at tweaking that perhaps. A high vit C often gets thrown in when run down.

Charlie I will bare that in mind. I am just fed up of a gentle virus completely flattening me. It has been nearly a week of bed rest for a snotty nose and earache. Nothing bad enough to see a GP but the impact is to wipe me out entirely and it is frustrating even if you accept it is illness and try to function according to situation.

I just want to get to a point where I can function again. As it is I am not sure I am going to have the energy to fully enjoy the show I am booked in to see tomo. Doing the school run this morning sent me back to bed for fitful sleep for most of the day. Hence why wondering if the stress of illness to a body that is prone to over reacting to that any of changes might be staved off by a slightly higher intake of good cabs (eg bootcamp light kinda thing) to reduce the stress of the stricter diet on a crappy body and immune system. iyswim. I would quite like a quality of life, survival mood is a right pita. And I am trying to look at this as a complete way forward for the future so contingency planning iyswim. Bootcamp light doesn't suit me very well, it derails me entirely, but if it keeps me from suffering unnecessarily from a virus than it is perhaps the route to go short term before settling back into the bootcamp way which suits me better. trying really hard not to over think like the veg thing and probably failing but thought it was a question worth asking

RandomHouseRules · 11/02/2015 23:25

Have to post and run I'm afraid. Sorry!

B: 2 eggs/spinach muffins
L: salad with avo, bacon
D: duck (Yum!) with leeks and swede mash.
ate a couple of the kids biscuits argh

Thumbwitch · 12/02/2015 01:06

grah - no I don't, I don't really drink coffee any more and have never tried the BPC. But I can't imagine putting butter in it, yuk! Shock I would use double cream if I was doing it.

Mrsstevejones · 12/02/2015 06:26

Butter in coffee sounds wrong but is actually very nice - it took me ages to try it but i love them now. Unsalted butter only.

Was up at 2am and now 6am and whilst knackered i dint think i have my bug any more. Might have to abandon the no coffee thing today.

CharlieSierra · 12/02/2015 07:23

It's really hard not to overthink it sometimes Bitchy and adding in some fruit and a wide range of colourful veg seems an entirely reasonable response to a cold/virus, it's definitely my plan for long term health. Have you tried green smoothies? I feel fantastic on them and only don't have them just now because of being on strict bc.

BIWI · 12/02/2015 07:24

MrsK - when I was young, and up until around the age of 30, I was just like you. I could eat and drink anything I liked and stayed the same size/weight. But gradually, as I got older, my weight started to creep up.

In part I think it's due to the fact that your metabolism slows down. For me, the levels of exercise that I was involved in also dropped dramatically. And then as my disposable income grew, I was also going out more - eating out and drinking. And then started buying wine to drink at home (something I simply couldn't afford to do when I first started working!)

I didn't even gain weight with any of my pregnancies. I put 10lbs on with DS2 (he was born at 36 weeks, so I suppose I might have put more on if I went to full term), and 10 days after he was born I'd lost that!

But what I did do, as I realised that the weight was creeping on (and I mean creeping), was to do what we're all told we're supposed to do - I started watching calories and avoiding fatty foods. The inevitable upshot would have been that the carbs I was eating would have increased.

I remember in the 80s being told that pasta wasn't fattening, it was the sauce that you put on it that was fattening. This was an absolute revelation as, all during the 70s (when I was a teenager) I remember being told that pasta (and potatoes/bread) were things you should give up if you were dieting. Although I wasn't dieting at all then, my mum was - constantly.

I get quite cross when I think about it, that the advice I took very seriously left me either hungry, obsessing about calories (bowl of boiled celery anyone?) or eating foods that we now know are the ones that have the potential to do most harm.

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SarahBeenysBumblingApprentice · 12/02/2015 07:55

Morning everyone.

I'm ashamed to admit that I've been AWOL for ages due to first being on annual leave and running around like a mad thing then falling off the wagon badly. I was too ashamed to confess all so I just stayed away Blush I've been back on the straight and narrow for a while now but I couldn't bring myself to weigh on Monday! I've been doing more exercise recently though and people are asking me if I've lost weight.

mrsK I keep coming back because I'm trying to shift a very stubborn final stone -my BMI is the higher end of normal at the moment. I kep eating too many carbs between bootcamps also! The biggest problem I'm having is that I feel "alright"; I'm aware I'm not too fat so my motivation is waning and I'm slipping more.

Supermum0203 · 12/02/2015 07:59

Good morning lovely people!
Food yesterday:,
B- skipped
L- 1 pork shop fried in butter with leeks with a sauce made with butter, and soya cream
D- 2 scrambled eggs with smoked salmon and lettuce and cucumber with 3 big tbspoons of homemade Mayo
S- 2 decaf coffees with a splash of soya milk.

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