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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Maintaining weight & cheaters confessional

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EvaTheOptimist · 04/05/2014 17:06

Thanks to BIWI's bootcamp I've lost loads of weight. I'm determined not to put it all back on. So I am now consciously trying to maintain my new weight.

I finished the last bootcamp on 150.8lb. My aim is to stay below 11 stone (154lb). Since bootcamp I have weighed between 149lb and 151.6lb. I think this roughly counts as maintaining!

My plan or experiment is to see whether basically eating bootcamp style, but with 3-4 off-piste moments per week (eg chocolate, toast, special treat meal etc) will do the trick of maintaining.

Post here to share your experience of maintaining the low carb way.

Also feel free to confess any cheating here, offload and wail in a safe space!!

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SayraT · 10/06/2014 07:48

Yip same pony. Here is the last one of that same pony absolutely gleaming white...she is normally somewhere between the two!

Crabby Glad that your fish are doing well, my little WCMM fry are not doing great, I've had to leave them a few times and I have the nosiest neighbour ever so if I am away a week I just leave them. I think some of the fry got eaten. I've got one left Sad I didn't have room for them all anyway.

Baby corys must be the cutest things ever and now you are going to have baby shrimpies Grin you must be doing something right if things keep breeding. Do you have any pictures of the long-finned WCMM, I've never seen any in my LFS but I think they would be a nice addition.

eva I am quite bad with friends, I have a lot of "friends for the moment" but once I move/leave somewhere I tend to forget about them and not keep in touch! I really feel like we (and LMD where ever she is) have all got on so well and its nice to "know" you all.

stunt your cat is gorgeous, I am also allergic to cats but only certain ones?! I think if I got a cat I'd have to go round rubbing them on my face to see which ones I was allergic to. I think I'd prefer a big cat to a small cat, my friend has a cat that looks like a tiger (the name escapes me but they are very expensive and stripy, this one has silvery stripes) and its huge too.

Ok, I lied, I've added three pony picture but thats it, no more Grin

Maintaining weight & cheaters confessional
Maintaining weight & cheaters confessional
Maintaining weight & cheaters confessional
lowcarbforthewin · 10/06/2014 09:01

I'm loving all the animal photos, thanks for sharing. I love both dogs and horses. Would love a dog. I always joke that I need to find myself a boyfriend, if only so I have someone to help me look after a dog. Golden retrievers are my favourites.

StuntNun · 10/06/2014 09:19

Sayra some cats are more allergenic than others and on the whole short-haired cats are much worse than long-haired cats. The Siberian Forest Cat is renowned for being low allergen. I'm extremely allergic to cats (wheezing, streaming eyes, hives) but my cat can sleep on my bed and I don't react to her at all.

StuntNun · 10/06/2014 09:22

Here's my doggy. I've had her since before I had children and I always call her my 'first and favourite child!' She ruptured her Achilles' tendon 4.5 years ago and has to wear a brace on her leg which always gets her a lot of attention.

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EvaTheOptimist · 10/06/2014 10:01

Sayra its so impressive you can ride. You must have thighs of steel. Oh we know that already from the pole photos

Stunt I love your first and favourite child!

Crabby Love Sponge (poor traumatised Postie) looks fab. DH and the kids are in a long lobbying campaign (trying to persuade me) about getting a rabbit. What type of rabbit was she? Did she live indoors or out?

Will the eventual baby shrimps pose any danger to your fishies?

Well done for leading a nature walk, that's so talented. This is me talking to DS - "Look at those beautiful flowers, that's Red Campion" DS - "What's THIS one mummy" Me - "Ermm.. don't know!" Back to the drawing board, why can't I remember this stuff!

DH filled the house with the smell of toast last night. Which used to be one of the hardest moments when I was bootcamping. Last night I joined him in the toast as this is meant to be the Plan. Off-piste moment 1 of 3 of the week. Lets see if I can do it!

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trashcanjunkie · 10/06/2014 10:28

Morning Lovelies! Grin

I am loving the animal porn.

The talk of friendship circles is very interesting... I was thinking about how I 'have friends'. I have a couple of friends, who have been very supportive through the last eight years, but can also be sometimes a little stifling. We are all quite strongly opinionated you may have guessed but we manage to usually air differences, or move through difficulty. I am very lucky where I live, to be part of a like minded community. I've been in the area for years, so have built up some excellent 'buddies' who I may not see for a month or two, but then can have a lovely get together, and a few of my neighbours are mostly lefty types, who are great fun, and good people. I do feel really lucky. I struggled when I first met dp, as he has a circle of friends from school who he sees quite rarely, for meals or drinks, never at home, and then his 'friends' he sees at gigs or nights out. I need to be regularly social, or I get depressed. He's come around to the idea a bit, but he's definitely happier just us Hmm

Eeh blether blether. I'm taking another day off - well, going in this afternoon for one walk. Little twin two has got the tonsilitus. Bless him, he had a shocking fever through the night that wouldn't respond to anything, so I kept popping in and putting a cold cloth on him in the adverts of GOT I'm having a lazy day in bed with him and a pomeranian plus the trash pup!

stunt I failed miserably reading a song of ice and fire. I got to the bit where danaerys was pregnant, and then got bloody hooked on the telly series. I'm determined to have another bash. Think I might get it on Kindle if it's there. Dp won't allow me to lend his books, as I am a destroyer of literature he's anal about books

StuntNun · 10/06/2014 16:32

Trash the Song of Ice and Fire is much better on Kindle as the later books weight a ton! I have been reading them since they came out so it was much easier when you only had to read one every three years.

trashcanjunkie · 10/06/2014 19:03

Ah yes excellent point stunt... ooh exciting. I'm just about finished reading the divergent trilogy, which was really ok, but a bit teenage. Am right ready to get my teeth into something. The dune books properly pumped my nads, so I am almost positive the GOTs will do it for me.

I feel wrecked today. Not sure if it's the after effects of my copius drinking on Saturday Grin or what. I'm struggling to keep my eyes open. I went to the fucking bastard Tesco with out taking my arsing purse today as well, and could not face going back again, so we had cobbled together early dinner. I made the kids bacon, with egg for one and beans for the other. I bravely re-heated (very thoroughly) the first pork curry I have made since the incident. It was goooood, and even better, easy!

I have gained weight this week. It has crept back up slowly, and I'm not sure why - although Saturday won't have helped. I am just going to keep going, and hope for a whoosh next week or so.

I'm not sure if I can contribute on the other thread right now. I can't be anything but completely candid, and that doesn't feel like the right thing to do at the moment. It feels warm and safe here. I'm going to keep reading it, but feel a bit hurt and upset at the accusations. I thought long and hard about responding to them on there, but I don't think that will help.

StuntNun · 10/06/2014 19:16

Did you read just the Frank Herbert Dune books Trash or the prequels too? I read the six Dune books as a teenager and was so disappointed that they didn't go anywhere I decided never to read beyond the first one again. Then the prequels came out but I never fancied them as I wanted to find out what came next not what came before.

SayraT · 10/06/2014 19:36

I think you are better staying here trash Grin

I tried to read the GOT books but never got into them, lots of people at work are watching it but I am not, I'm always behind though Grin I'm watching Breaking Bad just now.

Dinner tonight was lovely, I modified taco bake by adding aubergine, mushrooms and tomatoes to the mince. I ate it with little gem spoons Smile

I do seem to be more allergic to short haired cats rather than long haired cats, I am fine with my friends British blue/shorthair cats and also another friends Persian but very bad with a short haired farm cat (unknown breed)

The breed I was talking about up there ^ was a Bengal, it suddenly came to me.

I'd love to have a dog or a cat but unfortunately LL doesn't allow pets Sad

eva crabby I don't know anything about plants/wildlife and the last time I did the garden OH came out and googled plant I.Ds so that I could see if I was pulling out a weed or a plant Smile I think I pulled out some plants Blush

Notsoskinnyminny · 10/06/2014 19:46

OMG popped on for a quick skive to see what you lovely ladies have been up to got the auditors in for 2 days so didn't get home til late last night and supposed to be updating policies now and there's been a bun fight

But I'm loving the furry porn, will try and find some pics of my fur babies.

What was with last night's GOT - I want to know what happens to Tyrian.

Ok back to the grindstone, can't decide whether to do the risk assessment policy or manual of internal procedures eeny meeny miny mo

SayraT · 10/06/2014 20:01

Wow minny sounds like you've got a great choice there, how will you choose? Grin

PeonyStick · 10/06/2014 20:38

minny you lucky lucky thing ! I am up to my ears in NICE guidelines and NHS England's commissioning papers ... Deep joy !
I too need news of Tyrion's fate Grin
trashy you worried me there - you did a whole post with not one colourful word ...... It was all looking a bit grey and dismal ... Then to my relief , you redeem yourself with fucking bastard tesco and arsing purse Grin Grin

eva it's hard isn't it ... If I have any slight carb - I just crave them . I had an apple today and now I could eat an orchard !

PeonyStick · 10/06/2014 20:46

And ... Did I read trashtwin now has tonsillitis ?! Can we have a period of time where everyone is fighting fit at the trash pad Grin . Hope he's on the mend .

trashcanjunkie · 10/06/2014 22:57

Groan .... I like to think we're getting all the poorly done in one big batch. Grin peony....

so glad you appreciate my foul mouth. Dp had a chortle at me for getting into hot water on here with my swearing... He can't believe how tame I am here compared to RL Blush

CrabbyBlossomBottom · 10/06/2014 23:28

Sayra what a gorgeous pony. Is that you in the jumping photo??
Sad about your WCMMs. It's a fish eat fish world out there. Will try to get some decent photos of our fishies for pet porn corner tomorrow.

Lowcarb get a dog and then you won't need the boyfriend. Dogs are far more reliable in their affections. Grin

Aw look at StuntDog with her big sad eyes and clunky boot! She'd be getting a lot of sympathy and livercake from me if I met her!

Eva she was a lionhead rabbit and she lived in the house. We loved her dearly but tbh rabbits aren't the easiest of pets (I've had several house rabbits). Their natural behaviours of digging and endless nibbling make them quite destructive in the house. Sponge wrecked carpets and two sets of floor length curtains, one of which were in a rented house and had to be replaced at a cost of £400... What kind of fucking numpty puts £400 curtains in a fucking rental house?? Angry They also shafted us for a carpet which she'd just nibbled a tiny bit of in the corner and which already had a bare patch that was nothing to do with us Hmm, and a skirting board which she'd nibbled. The other set of curtains she wrecked are still hanging in our living room, a ragged reminder of her handiwork every time we close the curtains as the bottom corner is missing about a square foot of fabric. Grin We own this one thank god so no landlords to see what a state the animals have made of it. Hmm

Before we got the dog Sponge was completely free range and the list of wrecked items is too long to list really. All our bed linen from then have nibbled holes in, along with quite a few towels. She had a particular fondness for books and wooden furniture too. A real rabbit speciality, though, is always electrical cables. They think they're being very helpful, since in their burrow all intruding tree roots need to be nibbled tidily away. Obviously they want to do the same in the house, so hanging cables are irresistible. Once they've got the taste for it, woe betide you if you leave even an inch of cable uncovered. I swear they have cable-seeking second sight or something. Anything left lying around was fair game for nibbling or shredding, really. Once she pissed on DP's running trainers when they were in the wardrobe and we left the door open, but we think that was a sign of love. And possession, like, 'you're mine bitch'. Grin It took us ages to figure out what the smell was.

In case I haven't entirely put you off yet, don't think of them as cute ickle fluffy bunnies, either... rabbits have MASSIVE attitude! Grin They are amazingly easy to offend and can reeeeeally hold a grudge. They have a very complex body language and woe betide you if you respond in the wrong way. She could sulk for days. Shock
This is a great site to tell you more about that. They can be incredibly affectionate too though, as long as you're showing them the appropriate respect. You haven't lived until you've been groomed by a rabbit - it's amazing. Grin

They've got strong personalities though, that's for sure. When she went through her adolescent rebellion stage she used to poo (and piss) on the sofa, marking it as hers. I got a water pistol to dissuade her from jumping up, and we used to end up like a scene in a spaghetti western; me watching her, the pistol trained on her, her staring back, biding her time. The moment my attention wavered she'd leap onto the sofa and fire off a round of pellets and a squirt of pee... Pow Pow Pow Pow!... and leap off again as I fired at her madly with the water pistol. Grin

I wouldn't assume that they're going to be great with children either... DD accidentally hurt her when she was young by trying to pick her up awkwardly (she wasn't supposed to be picking her up at all - they hate it). Sponge took over six years to forgive her. Shock Six years of growling and boxing DD with her front paws whenever she tried to stroke her! She generalised that feeling to other kids too, so we always had to warn visiting children. Only ever had to warn them once though, I found... Grin She forgave DD in her dotage though, and allowed her to make up for it with lots of stroking and ear rubbing.

Have I put you off yet? Grin They're great personalities but they're a lot more complex than people realise. It breaks my heart to think how many are stuck inside little hutches with no stimulation and no freedom.

God what a lot of rabbit wittering. Bet you're sorry you asked now, as is everyone else. Blush

Trashy stay over here in the warm, nurturing bosom of our crustless quiche. You can fucking swear to your bastard heart's pissing content. Wink

Notso and Peony I can't quite get on board with GOT, even though DP loves it. I bought him all the books, which he's steadily ploughing through. Now he mutters about how the tv plot deviates unnecessarily from the book plot, which he used to laugh at me for doing with True Blood.

We're glued to Fargo and Orphan Black at the moment. Both bloody brilliant.

StuntNun · 11/06/2014 07:05

Yes Trash Frank Herbert died before he could finish the series but his son wrote two sequels based on his outline for the novel. The sequels hadn't been written when I first read the Dune series and I never had the urge to revisit them. Do you read a lot of hard sci-fi then? I love Peter F. Hamilton but I haven't been able to wade through his latest one, I keep starting it then not getting very far. If you like GoT but can't get into the books then George R. R. Martin's Tuf Voyaging is a good read. I have an old copy I bought in a library sale when I was a kid but I think all his back catalogue has been rereleased.

Pleaseandthankyou · 11/06/2014 08:40

As I have no pets I am going to have to post about my weight. I bought new scales a few weeks ago and they weigh almost half a stone heavier than my old ones. I am now over the normal bmi boundary again. That means I have 7 pounds to lose AGAIN! I had a once in a lifetime event this weekend. Really delicious meals and lots of wine - it was actually 5 days - I really dreaded standing on the scales BUT I actually lost 2 pounds. I'm back on boot camp for the rest of this week but have another once in a lifetime event this weekend. I have no idea how I lost and didn't put on. When I started boot camping over a year ago I managed to put on 9 lbs overnight after a day off the rails. I am following both threads for inspiration.

trashcanjunkie · 11/06/2014 10:50

Morning all!

stunty I love a good sci-fi or fantasy/dystopian type thing. I haven't read any Peter F. H. but I'm willing to give anything a bash. It's a funny one, though, I can't predict whether I will or won't take to something. I mean, I read Twilight ffs Blush I've read most of Pratchetts work, and some of the collaborations, but I find them hit and miss. I am just finishing the Divergent trilogy, but they were very teenage. I wet my pants at WWZ which is still one of my top reads ever. I also enjoyed the Mark Chadbourne series, starting with Worlds End, but they lost me a bit towards the end...

Hiya please - I think we've established this thread as a bit of an anything goes type of place Grin so actually posting about your weight can only be a good thing. How frustrating, yet lovely that your are so tantalisingly close to your maintenance weight. I would give my eye teeth to have seven pounds to lose. At the same time, I can appreciate how fucking soul destroying it can be to be eluded at the final stage. I suspect stuntnun may have things to add to that, although she's winning the war mainly these days.

I will show some solidarity and post about my weight. Since me terrible poorliness, when I dropped to 104 kilos, my weight has climbed back up to 107 at the start of the week. I realise that drinking at the weekend won't have helped, and looking very critically at my food intake, there had been a bit too many berries in yoghurt, cuppas with ff milk and caffeine, plus I had mozzarellas in the fridge, and was snarfing them down at around five pm, but eating dinner at eight or nine Hmm so I have knocked all that on the head since Monday, and lo and behold I'm 105 this morning.

Trashpup is growing bigger, but still tiny! She had a fright in the park the other day (a dog with a bark like a banshee going off at dps staffie)and I lost her for a good six minutes. I was nearly panicking, but then these lovely people waved me over to say they'd seen her. She'd legged it back to the car, which I was really rather impressed at.

Had a strange breakfast today. Left over scrambled eggs that had gone cold, mixed with mayo, then a tiny bowl of yog with a spoon of clotted cream in. Am drinking a rooibos with splodge of clotted cream in now.

EvaTheOptimist · 11/06/2014 11:42

Sayra ha ha I love the idea of googling while gardening!

Trash I imagine while you were ill, you must have lost some weight as you were barely eating. Perhaps now your body is trying to find some equilibrium and is getting itself back together, including putting a bit of the weight back on. If you stay eating what you know to be sensible choices and good ratios of fat:protein:carbs and that all important water, your body will get its head together soon I think and start shedding the fat again. Visualise those open doors on your fat cells!

Cool that the weights coming off already! (seen your later post)

Crabby "in case I haven't put you off rabbits" after 5 paragraphs of slipper-weeing, cable-nibbling and sofa-spaghetti-westerns!! Er yes, you are confirming my worst fears and adding to them! I have been laughing madly though. I'm going to print that all off and share with the bunny-lobby. DH and the DC We currently have a hamster who is NO TROUBLE AT ALL and even, amazingly, never wees or poos when she's out of her cage.

Please well that is extremely tiresome about the scales. Losing 2lb after 5 days off-piste - That is style, my girl. This is the "By Some Miracle" effect that I have benefited from more than once since declaring maintenance. Have a good time at the once-in-a-lifetime event at the weekend. I wonder if the difference is, when you are early into low-carbing, its easy for the body to just re-fill those glycogen stores and think "whahay, this bizarre carb-free existence has ended" and whoosh the weight back on. But a year in to low-carbing - the low-carb is the new norm, and as long as you get back to it, the damage can be limited? Who knows.

I'd say, enjoy the weekend - but still enjoy it mindfully and try to resist getting into a face-down-in-carbs situation. Then back on the low-carb and give it a few days before you stand on the scales!!

Peony and Minny how do you drive yourself to do such head-mangling work? That's the sort of tasks that drive me to MN.

Peony apple and orchard effect - yes - I've reflected that by allowing myself "treats" I'm usually somewhere in a "still affected by carb cravings" cycle and therefore really not helping myself. BUT yesterday evening I was at an event where biscuits were on offer with the tea and coffee and I did not eat one - to prove it can be done, and to save my treats for later in the week.

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PeonyStick · 11/06/2014 16:06

Ooh ooh - we have the whole series of Fargo so far - sitting ready and waiting on planner ...... DH and I are still in the '24' vortex having downloaded all 8 series ....... We rarely watch anything else !! Madness .Grin

PeonyStick · 11/06/2014 16:13

Mega cross post !
Hadn't refreshed since Crabby post ! Sorry - am not going mad really ...... Just one foot in the sofa fort this week ...!
pleased that last bit is a complete bugger to get off - I am the master of stalling and then something that stunt said made me drop my protein and it all came off at once ..

trashy I think that the 7lb you lost when you were dying was severe dehydration and it is just your body equalising itself . I expect the fat is still bring burnt .

StuntNun · 11/06/2014 16:48

I've posted about the set-point theory before Eva which has largely been debunked but I still think there is something to it. After I had DS3 I lost some of the baby weight but then stabilised at 11st 8lb. Then when I started low carbing I dropped to 9st 6lb and then stayed pretty much around that weight for months. I couldn't get below 9st 6lb for ages but my weight didn't go up either, even off-piste meals out or my forbidden treat of chips with curry sauce, don't trigger a weight gain. So I do think my weight has stabilised at a new set point. So long as I stick to the 80:20 rule on a low carb diet then I'm pretty sure my weight would stay the same. I'm sure if I went back to a SAD then it would creep up again but honestly I don't think I could eat like that again because I feel so much healthier now. Why would I go back to period pains, IBS and joint pain?

At the moment I'm working on body recompositioning. In March I was at my target weight but skinny-fat so I have been doing the Shred and kettlebells to try and build a bit of muscle. I'm now trying to lower my body fat as I still have a tummy that would make grown men weep, then I'm planning to up the exercise in September to try and recomposition by aiming to keep at the same weight but with more muscle and less fat. My overall goal is to be in better shape at 40 than I've ever been before. My side goal is to try and lose the CS overhang but that just may not be possible. I'm currently experimenting with carb refeeds on this thread and I'm hoping to introduce 16:8 intermittant fasting shortly when I work out how not to be starving at breakfast time.

Pleaseandthankyou · 11/06/2014 17:29

I think the only thing that will deal with the cs overhang is a tummy tuck or an all in one control thingy from m&s. Mine actually looks worse now than it did when I was a size bigger. I think you are right about the set point weight. I think for me, for the the long term it is better to stabilise and then try to lose a bit more. M&s actually do have some good control underwear. I used to struggle to get some of them past my knees but the fabrics are much lighter now. Stunt you look really good from your photos, no one else would probably notice. Mine you would notice

Notsoskinnyminny · 11/06/2014 19:02

Please M&S controlwear is the work of the devil - I got stuck in an all-in-one and had to be rescued by DD who tweeted before, during and after my release thank god she wasn't into snapchat then I thought I'd have to buy the blummin thing and then get DH to cut me out of it when I got home. I should've realised when it wouldn't go on like a cossy that putting it on over my head wasn't a good idea Grin

Never had a rabbit well a furry one Blush but my mate's has chewed through loads of cables and another can't peg her washing out because of the rabid bunny that attacks anyone who goes in the garden and terrorises the neighbourhood.

Auditor's gone, hopefully for 4 yrs got a good report with only a few petty minor things but they've got to find something otherwise they'd be out of a job so relief all round. Should be going to kettlecise but too knackered.

DS reads all those books so I'll ask him for some recommendations, he kept trying to get me to read HP Lovecraft but I couldn't get into it.

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