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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 8 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Last Three Weeks!

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BIWI · 02/03/2014 22:07

I'm starting next week's thread a bit early as I have to be up and out of the house at sparrow's crack tomorrow.

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And don't forget the weight tracker

It may seem like we're nearly at the end, but still the chance to lose up to another half a stone, if you can lose 2lbs a week!

Hope everyone has a good week. Mine is a bit of a minefield - out tomorrow night to celebrate both of my DCs' birthdays, and then out on Thursday with some MNetter friends, and I don't think we will be drinking sparkling water!

Good luck everyone. Flowers

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trashcanjunkie · 05/03/2014 09:34

Well I feel like a right knob this morning. After 'enjoying' the comfortable numb of yesterday, I slept much better last night, although I woke up at 6am doing proper eggy burps Confused Felt repulsive, couldn't stand up to sort out breakfast and packed lunches for dc without coming over all queasy. Thank fuck dp stayed over at mine last night so took over whilst I flailed on the sofa looking ghostly. I decided to try and drink a peppermint tea - was pretty sure puking was gonna occur, so sooner the better imo Grin lo and behold I hossed up my homemade chicken soup from last night in excellent droves, and then felt immediately better.

Hmm think I'll lay off everything. Feel much better anyway, 'in meself' as they say round here Grin

crabby I'm so hearing you! Blush..... will put them at the back of the meds cupboard for actual emergencies.

littlemiss feeling for you and your poorly gob! I think it's the meanest of the feeling poorly parts, cos you can't even enjoy eating the crap cos it hurts your bashed up parts gah!

bowie welcome! A good many of us plan to continue beyond bootcamp, and BIWI is checking with MNHQ to see if we can keep the various accoutrements (weight tracker). The spreadsheet stays apparently.

I'm so excited today - have got some fantastic plans in the offing for the flat. Can't remember if I've already blethered about it upthread, but I'm having some furniture custom built into the font room (a design inspiration that came to me after ten years of shifting ill fitting furniture about fruitlessly)

We are going to get the wood today! And hopefully have it all cut to size. Technically then it's an assembly job, which should take another day or so. Also getting the ugly as fuck gas fire capped off and removed today. Eek eek eek.

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Thumbwitch · 05/03/2014 09:41

Durham - that sounds like propaganda put out by the sugar/grains industries! Will have a look.

Crabby - it might be worth getting her to see a dermatologist if you can, just to make sure there's nothing else going on in there - it probably is just the healing process but I'd still get it looked at if you can.

Welcome to all newbies!

And Seri - that's good to know about the water, I really must increase my intake if I want to achieve. I know it's always been part of it, and BIWI keeps telling us all, but it's good that you've "field-tested" it, if you like - gives me even more incentive.

DurhamDurham · 05/03/2014 09:44

Anyone with Bowie in their name is more than welcome here!!

I take it you are a fan of the great man? Grin

Twit · 05/03/2014 11:28

That's interesting about drinking the water, hmmm, I might try 4 litres and see what happens, although I'm struggling with 3 at the moment.
I'm struggling to eat enough as well to be honest, which is unusual as I'm normally fine eating regularly and drinking lots of water.

There isn't anything worng with me as such, babyTwit (2.5) wakes at night every night and is still bf at night (so 2/3 times a day/night?) so I am tired but I was bfing a 6 m/o who woke 2/3 times a night before and it worked Confused

Sorry, just SMS really.
Hope everyone is ok.

LesserOfTwoWeevils · 05/03/2014 11:35

I've discovered that water makes the difference too....but how long does it take for the constant weeing to wear off? Blush

Had to do what became the walk of extreme embarrassment at work about 100 times and am dreading a recurrence.

By "sort of low carbing" I mean I have been doing it but haven't been eating fatty cuts of meat and had been eating almonds and also allowing myself a few sachets of sweetener. Also rather a lot of cheese. And more than 20 carbs/day. But it has been working anyway!

I had been trying to ease into low-carbing, I suppose out of suspicion that it was too good to be true and/or wouldn't work for me and in that case I didn't want to be faffing around with weighing and counting and lots of cooking.

I suppose as I get closer to my target weight (another 3lb down today Shock Grin) I will have to be stricter. But now that I have found it really works I don't mind!

WhooshFuckerFairy · 05/03/2014 12:42

funny... didn't read back far enough , so couldn't understand why crabby had wool stuck in her teeth ! thinking 'she's lost it' and then I see..... brilliant Pistey

amazonian. it may be sacrilege .... but I stuck my eggs in bowl microwave with nob of butter for 1 min 30 secs and then mash it all up - might not be gourmet but tasty when rushing around doing a million morning tasks and getting out of the door.

laughing properly out loud reading about the ' dirty bitch and the salted caramel brownies' .....trashy you are doing nothing for my laughter lines Grin ( on a serious note - hope your symptoms remain under control and you have stopped puking x)

bowie.... resistance stuff to tone up super quick - anything that hurts seems good ! I have done bodypump and a vipr class and can definately see a difference in muscle tone. I do pilates too - but a gentle version - not like SarahB's 'pilates on acid. A lot of people get great results with 30 day shred dvd

crabby, my new swimming costume has arrived from " maxcleavage.com". A gel filled cossie as I have all sorts of crazy hangups about flatchestedness. I haven't been swimming for years, but am hoping to be brave enough on Friday morning. Lets have a virtual swimming date - I will if you will !

twoweevils am still mad weeing...... 8 weeks in !

WhooshFuckerFairy · 05/03/2014 14:08

Just got back from grocery shop..... there must be more of you virtual vipers lurking in Taunton. Not one full fat yoghurt to be found in Lidl - rows and rows of empty boxes of it ! Leave one for me next time...... oh well, will have to pop to Waitrose when I get DD3 from nursery its a hard life Grin

WhooshFuckerFairy · 05/03/2014 14:09

Can you tell.......I'm not working this week.....Grin

BIWI · 05/03/2014 14:22

Durham - that report was interesting, and it made the front page of the Guardian too. I'd love to see more about how the survey/research was constructed. And I shall be very interested to see if anyone from the Paleo/Primal/Low carb community comments on it.

A reminder to us all, though, that this isn't a high protein diet - we are aiming to keep the proportions of our food in the following order:

fat:protein:carbs

In other words, protein is in exactly the same 'position' as current healthy eating guidelines, which is:

carbs:protein:fat

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Thumbwitch · 05/03/2014 14:38

OK, I've read the Grauniad's report on the study now.
I think that it might be a little simplistic to say what they've said - because I think that a lot of the effects they have seen may come from the way the food is cooked.
Meat tends to be roasted, fried, barbecued or grilled. All of these ways of cooking meat, especially fatty meat, have the potential to produce carcinogens, called polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). PAHs are produced even more when fat spits into the heat and gets "burnt", and then the burn-products fall back onto the meat. I found out about these substances back when I was doing my degree (100s of years ago, it feels like now) and it put me RIGHT off barbecue food! Plus I stopped charring my meat, as charred meat obviously has more of the burn products. It might taste nicer, but it's more carcinogenic.

Now, they've also said that if the protein is a vegetable source, then you don't get the same effect - well no. You wouldn't. You don't tend to char-grill or roast beans in the same way, and they don't have the same composition so are unlikely to produce the PAHs.

Obviously I can't know that this is the reason they have got the results they have, but I do believe it's a confounding factor.

Oh, and IGF-1 - that's linked to breast and prostate cancer specifically, iirc - it's found in quite high amounts in lots of milk, because it's produced by the breast tissue (udders) and the bigger the udder, the bigger the milk yield (Milk yields have increased enormously in certain types of dairy cattle, namely the Holsteins, over the last 70 years) and therefore the more IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor -1) in the milk. It's almost certainly in beef as well.

I'm still not convinced and still think it's propaganda.

Thumbwitch · 05/03/2014 14:45

So I've realised that my paragraph on IGF-1 is out of step with my former paragraphs, a little. I do believe that mass-produced milk that contains a lot of IGF-1 is not particularly good for us, and that is may indeed contribute to certain types of cancer (the actual study mentions melanoma and breast cancer, but not prostate), and that it may be a reason to limit the amount of milk and beef that we take in; but I do not believe that this can necessarily be extrapolated to ALL animal protein.

Suzymoo9 · 05/03/2014 15:09

Amazonian a spoonful of coconut oil and a dash of cream in tea is luverly - can't drink it without oil in now, and yes at first I thought that might be vile. Tastes change!

Where's the daffodil gone?

trashcanjunkie · 05/03/2014 15:51

Oh my fuckerry. I had to go and get dogs today. I puked outside a client house. Bloody torrents of the stuff. Fortunately it was liquid Grin She was out obviously, hence the hiring of a dog walker, but her neighbours were in the street and they were looking!

I could do naught but hold the bonnet of the trashmobile and heave Blush onto the road. Then I collected the dog! Mortified is not the word. Then I found it funny. I was the colour or a ghost.

WhooshFuckerFairy · 05/03/2014 16:02

trashy - poor you , might it be one of your new prescriptions? Did you say you had Naproxen now - that's a gastric irritant . Any sign of any explosions the other end ?

Twit · 05/03/2014 16:08

That's weird trash I couldn't get off the sofa I felt so ill yesterday. I ended up throwing up too. Today though I feel really well. Really well, bizarre.

Tenementfunster · 05/03/2014 16:19

Hello low carbers
Just back to soak up the low carb vibe. Still here, had a massive wobble until a few weeks ago, and doing well again.
If hughjarse pitches up, thanks for your advice.
Good luck all

HeirToTheIronThrone · 05/03/2014 16:22

I feel rotten today too - pukey and bleurgh, and ashamed to say the only thing that has made me feel remotely better was a handful of custard creams Blush

trashcanjunkie · 05/03/2014 16:38

Hmm, I wondered too whooshy I have just done unspeakable shitting Blush although I was at my friends yesterday and her ds had a vomiting session through the night. I'm really not sure.

Managed to eat so far today an apple (really felt like I might have passed out if I didn't eat something and it was all I could face)

A smidge of cottage cheese - is cottage cheese ok

A small bowl of geek yog, with cream and a few rasberries and blueberries.

Most inconvenient day to be ill, as I had eight million dogs to see to, plus I had to go and order all of the wood for my furniture of excellence at the woodyard, then rush back and have the gas fire (ugly cunting thing) capped off (done now woo hoo!)

Not sure what to say about water - I hossed pints back up this morning, and struggled but sipped all day. Only done 1.5 litres so far and me guts feel delicate

Twit it would be awesome if I felt amazing tomorrow [hopefull]

Heir I am disgusted at your bodies off-piste cravings. Custard creams are Satans earwax and bellybutton fluff. If you're going down the mucky biscuit route, it has to be a Fox Crunch Classic or whatever they call them Grin

trashcanjunkie · 05/03/2014 16:39

And I am also irritated that I am unable to attend my fabulous yoga class this evening, having shelled out extra dosh to have my spammy new rubber yoga mat delivered in time. Humph. Grin

Twit · 05/03/2014 16:43

Aw, I hope you do to. Thanks
It might have something to do with the fact that babyTwit, now make sure you are all sitting down for this, SLEPT THROUGH THE NIGHT for the first time ever. This meant I got an unbroken night's sleep for the first time in over THREE YEARS.

^^ me falling on the floor in shock.

EwanHoozami · 05/03/2014 18:14

Twit that is a wonderful thing, well done babyTwit.

(can babyTwit have a word in babyHoozami's ear please? I want me some of that sleep..)

trashy - cottage cheese is OK-ish, it's not as high in fat or as low carb as other cheesy choices so personally I tend to steer clear. Plus it reminds me of my mum being miserable eating it on a ryvita in her WW days

EwanHoozami · 05/03/2014 18:16

oh and trash - I have an absolute cock of a gas fire to rid myself of too - did yours have a back boiler behind it?

LittleMissDisorganized · 05/03/2014 18:28

Thumb that is really helpful, thank you.
trashcan oh nooo that sounds horrible. Naproxen is a gastric irritant but would more commonly cause pain - codeine however has a big side effects profile including nausea - the two together if you're not used to taking medication much, started in the way you did yesterday, sound entirely responsible. But maybe you needed your evening of numb, and they will have washed out of your system by tomorrow, and you should be feeling fine again.

I'm feeling a bit less sore, very tired though, been quite a slog through today. My puffy pink cheek is still puffy and pink, and I hate salt water rinses already. I think I'll have a bath once DH has gone out and then an early night. Should be feeling quite a bit better tomorrow I hope. Thank you to all who were so encouraging this morning. Thanks

BIWI · 05/03/2014 19:13

Sorry to hear about the puking and shitting

Cottage cheese is OK - but it does have carbs in, so take note of that. And also, please make sure it's full fat!

I think I must be the only person in the world who actually likes the stuff!

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