Week 6 - Low Carb Bootcamp - We're Past the Halfway Point!

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Morning! In a rush, so not much time to post - off to Leeds today so have to go for my train.

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crabby I loved your bit of morning disclosure here's a bit of mine to help the situation... I'm from a long line of spliff smokers Both of my parents and several aunts and uncles were massive pot heads. My two brothers and I grew up thinking this was the norm and we all took a lot of drugs as teenagers, with my (incredibly neglectful) parents blessing.
Fast forward fifteen years and I have little to no contact with most members due to their discomfort at my choice to leave that lifestyle behind. One of the main reasons I don't drink is because it holds zero allure. I would at times however, give my right eye for a big fat spliff, but then one would never be enough..... queue massive addiction and general withdrawal from life. It's a funny old life eh? Sugar seems to be the latest 'addiction' I've had to kick replace with mn perhaps I could manifest me a cleaning addiction, it does threaten occasionally

steeleye so sorry you're feeling rubbish, I've had a few days of that, and I put it down to mental re-adjustment. We've nobbled the physical withdrawal, but the brain habits are tougher to crack I think. I felt bereft, like I was grieving but more mildly. It's passing slowly, but the supermarket was the worst on valentines day. I feel a bit silly now, saying that. It's not like the food won't still be there when I've reached my target weight, and I will allow myself an occasional treat. But it got to me, and I felt alone and sad

notso Ha ha yes, I too am a smelly cheese/meat lady I am also a proffessional dog walker so it was very poor form!! The little bugger had an e-collar on to boot! In his defense, I must say he has up to now done excellently. We've had him eight weeks and before us he had never been off lead in his life. He was the bounciest little thing ever. Overweight with zero muscle tone, and little coordination. He's actually usually very responsive it was a proper bolt. Another dog gave him a terrible fright and he took off!

Just read thumbwitch's post and flash of recognition at grumpiness! I have been soooo irritable on this woe. I assume it's all the extra oestrogen running riot as I'm also having a much shorter cycle...so feels like permanent pmt. Fun times. However, am taking all that to mean I must be losing fat as the oestrogen apparently comes from fat cells. Anyone else having a similar experience??

I am thumbwitch

My poor DC. I know I'm being really miserable to be around at the mo and I'm sure it's this diet. But don't understand why I don't feel that deprived (nothing like I did on SW or LF anyway) I am just generally pissed off.

I've just told DH we need a talk tonight, basically gonna tell him to pull his socks up. Don't know if it's me or I am pissed off with him.

Even wondered yesterday if I could have some delayed PND (DS 5 month old) but really don't think it's that.

I'm stopping on the 8th March and going back to a normal diet for me. This WOE has taught me so much re clean eating and about the low fat manufacturers that will never leave me but I need to see an end to it.

Morning/Afternoon all! Time for a mega-post me thinks...

LittleMissDisorganized you have nothing to apologise to me for! If I can draw from the good aspects of the situation, it's make my hide as thick as a rhino's and I don't go taking offense and personalising innocent and helpful comments. Your comments were very valid and welcome, mine were candid, sorry to have upset you .

also to Crabby and trashcan- my "line" is fully with regards to our lovely DS, growing up around the chaos that addicts leave in their wake is incredibly damaging.

Willie when alcoholics pack it in, they all discover an incredible sweet tooth... alcohol gets metabolised into sugars, as we know, and they sometimes over-compensate with sweets, biscuits and the like. As you say, it's the lesser of two evils.

NotTwit - thinking back to my self-absorbed behaviour yesterday, it's OK, that's what we are all here for. It DOES average out at 1lb a week in my previous experience - you are on week 6 and prior to yesterdays weigh-in with TOTM, you had lost 6lbs. Don't be despondent, it is working, keep on keeping on. C'mon, 10cms round your waist is AWESOME!

thumbwitch not in a bad, snappy mood, but very voluble. Look at me, in a pit of despondency yesterday lunch time, chirpy by evening time, jumping up and down and full of beans (not real beans, please note!) today. Does it make sense? Nope!

OK - so not so mega-post after all.

Ah! Yes, Dr Atkins brained himself slipping on an ice patch. If only his fall could have been cushioned by a box of KrispyCrem doughnuts, he'd still be with us .

Twit - your meals look Ok to me (and delicious!); I'm glad you don't have a problem with dairy, as there is a bit in your meals, just keep an eye on how much cheese/cream/yog you have per day. Flaxseed also stalls me if I have too much, so I have maybe 1tsp every week or so (good for bowel problems I find !

I note that you are exhausted - and it is a well documented fact that tiredness can hinder weightloss. Rats kept in a sleep-deprived state will put on weight more than happy rats. Not much you can do about that I think, other than be aware of the fact (and try to get as much sleep as poss) What about portions? Are you stuffed? Snacking? (Other than 4 brazils on a saturday - you sound very focussed!)
I don't think your exercise would result in muscle weight unless you are intensively walking; if its a normal walk, you should be good.

How much do you want to lose?

Sorry I can't pinpoint anything wrong, but I hope you carry on with it; it will happen, for sure.

And as Snowie say - 10cm is 4inches off your middle. That's where the 'dangerous' fat is, so that's great. And the scales are only part ofthe picture.

Snowie - did you mean volatile? as in, mood changing all the time? I could do with some of that, even - I just seem to be grumpy as fuck! :(

twit nothing screamingly obvious to me either, although, tiredness is a fucker for weightloss. Caffeine and dairy may be contributing, plus the size of/type of veg you're having. I've had to strip mine right back to dark green leafy, and really small amounts at each meal, plus no caffeine/dairy. It's frankly, been a bit of a bitch

Hi Thumb, that's exactly what I mean - voluble=volatile .

I don't know if you would be better off with the trade though... I'm starting to come across as rather unhinged, would settle for plain grumpy for a few days, at least everyone would know where they stand with me.

Needed a pick me up so I've had bacon, egg and sausage for lunch. And water. Now i'm going to bed and hoping dd stays asleep...

NoTwit Sorry I can't really see anything to blame, either. But I think 10cm off your waist is brilliant! Something is going very right for you. :)

Thanks trash, and sorry you and it seems many are having all sorts of different kinds of rubbish feelings going on at the moment.

My morning crappiness turned into a panic attack in the supermarket, which was then followed by a bit of an emotional binge at home. :( This is definitely not helpful and won't help my cravings, and I will try my very hardest to leave it at that. Wheat was involved, so I'm sure my stomach will berate me enough, so no use doing so too much myself, as what's done is done.

I'm not letting this ruin the rest of my day! Dinner will be some lovely spicy chicken tighs and buttery green veggies.

Elbombero - are you breast feeding or have you recently stopped/cut back?

I'm sure the depression I was eventually diagnosed with when ds was about 18 months old was hormonally related. I breastfed him until he was 13 months old, having gone back to work ft when he was 4 months old (all the maternity leave you go back then, at least if you wanted to be sure of getting your "old" job back)(I expressed at work).

Elbombero, would you ordinarily use, say, chocolate when you feel yourself getting a bit grumpy/ pissed off? Maybe it's because you don't have that as a help? I know that's why I sometimes feel like a wanker. Not chocolate necessarily, but a food or drink (wine?) that you know longer have?

No thumbwitch I don't reckon it's muscle, I would need to be working out for that lol. Just walking and keeping active with kids and monster toddler ATM.

Oops, missed some posts. Thank you all.
I don't think it can be too much dairy, I have yoghurt with cream twice a week, which is the only time I have flaxseed (which helps keep me regular )and a splash of cream with a BPC in the morning and in my swede ( mainly mashed with butter though).
I drink decaf coffee for the BPC as well.
I wondered about the amounts of veg, so weighed out according to the sheet thingy to get an idea how much to have, so not too much. (I don't weigh it out normally, just wanted to know what it looked like)

I'd love to say, you know, maybe it's that sneaky bit of choc/wine etc, but I have been really careful, which is why I'm pissed off reading about people's cheats and the still lose.

I will keep going, I can't eat wheat etc anyway, I know that generally speaking I have been going downish, just wish I had re-lost that weird weight gain after my last TOTM.

Just checking in - I didn't weigh on Monday as it does funny things to my head.

If it's down then I eat "just a wee bit, I deserve it", if it's not down enough then I console myself with something "as a treat".

So, I'm not going to weigh for a month, and, am instead, seeking out NonScaleVictories.

Delighted to share that I have definitely got ankle bones, that my collar bones have emerged right to my shoulders and that my friend gave me a hug this morning and said "bloody hell, you FEEL thinner".

Hi yes breastfeeding. I still provide all his milk so no change really. Wouldn't say I comfort ate. Think what clinches it for me is that on this diet you can have a day off. My WOE before pregnancy was healthy and controlled mon-fri with weekends being about nice teas in restaurants and a box of chocs at home. And I was about 9st then, I'm 9.10 now do just gotta loose that bit more of excess then I'm going back to it

Hello all - not time for a proper reply to all - as half term and have DC seemingly everywhere and needing me constantly for something !

but - I am sure I am retaining water , as I still have the indentation on my legs of the socks I wore in bed last night and its now half past 2 !( and we were up at 6 love having a toddler)So - sneaking a read up of water weight on my phone whenever DC's are occupied and I stumbled across this :

The best way to take water is to drink small amounts continuously throughout the day. Chugging a gallon of water doesn't provide your body with the water it needs because that "flood" of fluid gets passed on to your bladder and only a slight amount is absorbed by your body. [4]

I drink mine in big pint glass bursts though the day to get it in...... may try a different approach. ( and maybe compression socks gorgeous !)

Happy wednesday. I am reading and mentally hugging you all. xx

In need of a huge kick up the arse!!

Took half day off work today to take 16 yr old dd out to lunch, she requested Pizza Hut so off we go, me with the intention of sticking to a bowl of salad. All going well, had a lovely bowl of salad while dd tucked in to pizza, pasta and salad buffet. She then offered me a slice of pizza, I didn't say yes but I didn't say no either.
For a split second I sat there thinking, eat it Durham and then you can be sick when you get home. Thought quickly passed and I had a bite of pizza and then went back to salad. But I'm gutted that I had that thought as that hasn't happened for over twenty years now. Used to have eating disorders as a teen and into my early twenties but I'm 43 now fgs.

Just a blip I'm sure and only mentioning it on here as could not admit in real life, dh went through hell at the beginning of our relationship because of my weird eating habits. Sorry to off load and am right back on the wagon, will have a very LC dinner to make up for bite of I pizza

Elbombero, I think breastfeeding is hormonally getting in the way of the benefits of this WOE. Normally I am really calm on low carbing, not hungry, regular cycle, no urge to comfort eat before my period. None of this applies this time, which is sad, but I figure it will stand me in good stead when I cut down on the feeding.

Gussie - great attitude! Try measuring insteaad of scales?

Durham - don't beat yourself up about it. I occasionally think about having a drag on a cigarette - I haven't smoked for 22 years! Sometimes I even dream that I've had a fag, then wake up feeling really guilty... It's like your habits live on and catch you unawares

That's interesting about BF, I'm bfing babyTwit, although only at bedtime now and in the night. When I first time did bootcamp he was 6 m/o and my TOTM hadn't returned, once past the initial phase, I found it amazing. This time, with my TOTM and reduced feeding I'm worse mood wise.

I tend to drink throughout the day from a small glass using a jug to measure out my water. Are there any foods or teas or things that might help get rid of water do you know?

e durhamdurham on not throwing up, although you are worried that the thought came to you, I think ultimately you should feel reassured that you didn't, you are in control. I reckon throwing up wouldn't stop the sugary shit entering your system anyway, so if you think about it, it would be pointless.
Hope I haven't said the wrong thing, just didn't want you to go unanswered.

Nottwit - if you are still BFing, your cycle/hormones wil probably not yet be stable. Once they are more stable, the water will fall away. It's prob not a good idea to take diuretics if BFing; you could ask your doc but I think they'll tell you to just wait till babyTwit has finished with you!

Thanks for reassurance Captain and NotTwit

Captain you made me laugh about waking up feeling guilty for smoking in a dream!!

The feelings did pass very quick and I think it was because I was sat with my 16 year old and I would be devastated if she ever did what I used to do. Luckily I don't think it's likely as I tell her everyday that she is gorgeous so not self esteem issues with that one

Glad it passed quickly for you Durham.
Sucks that it can sneak up time after time...

Not enough time for a full on post but Hi everyone!

Durham Well done for putting the thought to bed. Can I ask though - is there anything that you're doing that would make that thought more likely to pop to the surface? I find that if I overly restrict food the old patterns start creeping in and thoughts like that intrude. Basically I get desperate for food and desperate not to cock up and so my brain tries the same old same old... I'm also well aware how to flip the "not eating" switch.

You, of course are not me and your though patterns may work completely differently, but I wondered if there had been a trigger