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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

716 replies

BIWI · 03/02/2014 08:28

Morning.

I see that some of us are struggling.

I see that there is a lot of cheating.

Hmm. I wonder if there is a connection Grin

Seriously folks, this is not a terribly forgiving WOE. The idea of Bootcamp Light was to give you a bit more flexibility, but not to send you spiralling into a chocolate and alcohol-fuelled frenzy!

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness or on your own personal Weight Tracker

Remember that weight loss may stop in weeks 3 and 4 - sometimes 5. It takes this long for your body to become keto adapted, i.e. to switch fully from carb-burning to fat-burning.

And if you're continually pushing up your daily carb intake, all you are doing is delaying this process

Hope you all have a good week.

OP posts:
LittleMissDisorganized · 05/02/2014 10:30

Crabby do you have a mandolin for your celeriac slicing?? Saves time +++ and perfect thickness. Sorry if that's teaching my grandmother to suck eggs!

GrumpyCrossPatch · 05/02/2014 10:44

Crabby loving the medic-alert card! Fab idea.

Yay for kylie! Can't bring myself to call you arse...

I have been casting a critical eye over my choices and failure to lose. I think partly Crabby is right and I am building muscle. However, I think I am guilty of getting protein and fat ratios in the wrong order. To that end I have just made a BPC (I only had butter, no coconut oil) - it's weird! Not gross, just weird. Any other recommendations for boosting fat intake without dairy (have relied on cheese and cream too much!)?

Woolfey · 05/02/2014 10:56

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ChesterDrawers · 05/02/2014 11:10

Is anyone else still waiting for the glowing skin and swishy hair?

I have got such bad dry patches on my face and dull dry hair. I am sat here with a big shiny eight hour cream chin and nose and have put coconut oil on my hair but that's not done much.

Was expecting to look like Cat Deeley by now Sad

RatherBeOnThePiste · 05/02/2014 11:45

Me!

Looking shite and so tired.

SteeleyeStan · 05/02/2014 11:49

Hey all.

I’m home today, Unfucking My Habitat and listening to the storm outside. Not very exciting, but beats being outside.

I always wondered what on earth those vibrating thingies were for in the dodgy crappy gym I used to pretend I went to. There were always queues of old Asian ladies waiting to sit on them! Hmm

Sounds nice and positive goings on, MyPrecious, monkeyface, arselike and Thumb :)

I love the card Crabby! Grin

Eva I never really thought about motivation in that much detail, oddly enough. Strangely infertility, PCOS, back problems and hating the way I looked apparently weren’t enough for me… Hmm My light bulb moment came when a good friend got T2 diabetes, didn’t care, and was very quickly in hospital nearly dying. I’d somehow fooled myself that PCOS and risk of diabetes weren’t really that big of a deal, but that changed there and then.

Chester No glowing over here, never has been. My hair is and has always been thin and wispy and decidedly non-glowy, and probably always will be. Skin isn’t great either, but it doesn’t get as rashy and itchy and blotchy anymore, luckily.

The foods today:
B: Two fried eggs and coffee with coconut oil.
L: Avocado, ham, olives and feta; more oily coffee.
D: Swede and brussel’s sprouts bubble&squek and a homemade burger.

Lavenderhoney · 05/02/2014 12:09

Looking like cat deely now made me laugh:) a friend once convinced me to buy Bronzer as it would change my face... It didn't, I just looked strange:)

I have been visited by the whoosh fairy, so I'm very happy- but I've upped my running and cut out dairy except for cream in my coffee for the last day.

I am sleeping a lot better now as well, which is good. But I must drink more water, I'm on the go a lot and although I have it with me I don't drink it.

Brunch- left over cauliflower with fried egg
Dinner - don't know yet.

PrimalLass · 05/02/2014 12:11

My skin was awful last week ChesterD. Lots of serum mixed with rosehip oil is helping.

bettybigballs · 05/02/2014 12:12

Finally have got time for a proper read of the thread and a catch up with you all.

Chester - I'm also waiting for my skin to improve, the last time i did hardcore LC i had amazing skin. I'm sitting her with two huge spots on forehead and cheek and some really nice dry scabby bits across my chin and other cheek. Sigh.

LittleMiss Cream cheese pancakes are gorgeous aren't they, so much nicer than straight egg. They are also really delicious with some parmesan grated into them. They taste like they are such a 'treat'. I hope you're clinic appt went well

trashcan your last post about your friends giving you shit reminded me of something i read in the IPD book. Sometimes, and no matter how much they love you, friends just aren't thinking of your best interests. They are seeing your actions as a spotlight / judgment on themselves or their knowledge. Your friend seems to be really into her nutrition but what you're doing is so against her learnings it feels like a threat to her - and to bring up your DP as a concern seems like classic technique of finding something to make you listen.

crabby i snorted tea when i read about what you did with your MIL and photo. How the fuck did she think not having pudding was unhealthy??

I discovered adding cocoa butter to my bulletproof this morning, absolutely delicious, almost like a non sweet mocha.

Must go, going to find me a vibrostep Grin

PrimalLass · 05/02/2014 12:12

My lightbulb moment is that I am 40 in 4 weeks Grin Shock

ChesterDrawers · 05/02/2014 12:33

Glad it's not just me. Maybe that happens next week? Grin

sybilfaulty · 05/02/2014 12:37

Some great inspiration here. Thank you. Loving all the chat as well.

Loose skin- I am very floppy too. Should those of us who wish start doing some sit ups or planks or something ?

For all the celeriac lovers, have you tried remoulade? It's a bit like coleslaw but no carrot and very lovely. I can eat loads though so perhaps ought to keep an eye on it. I am on phone so can't link to recipe but will do so at home this pm.

I did 5l of water over a very long day and was rewarded with a much flatter tum. My size 12 tight trousers still cut in but they will get looser. Am almost excited for spring!

Right am work so better look willing. Thank god I've hot my own office.

ChippingInWadesIn · 05/02/2014 12:57

BIWI - one of them visiting will be my Mum, I am most definitely & absolutely not mentioning diabetes/pre diabetes in any shape or form. I might, if pushed, mention vaguely 'my bloods' but that's it. She worries about my weight and I so wanted to be doing well when she got here, I just don't know what else to include/exclude/do... I am at my wits end (as you know x). I don't want to eat meat or eggs (and just couldn't now) but I envy those of you who do and have weight loss success with this WOE. I have to go to the Drs next week for my annual review, I am 3 or 4 kg heavier now than Nov, this is not going to go down well I wouldn't mind if I was just eating any manner or crap and not trying :(

I really, really do believe it's a healthy WOE for all of us and good for weight loss if you eat meat/eggs

SnowieBear · 05/02/2014 13:13

My first mega-reply update:

ToffeePenny asparagus is a well-known diuretic. Side effect of that is it makes your wee smell quite strongly Blush.

Durham I know I have seen threads on vibrosteps in the past, it's worth a search on the site, if memory doesn't fail me, it worked for some, not for others (isn't that always the case?). And not in "that" way Crabby and Trash Grin

Crabby I do wish I could spend the day in the kitchen trying out your recipies Sad. "My name is Snowiebear and I'm a low carber" yeah!

trashcanjunkie Thanks agree to disagree and focus on the elements of your friendships that support you and work for you.

Thumbwitch do you think I feel much trimmer today (have corroborated it with weighing) because of the two sticks of celery I added to my savoury mince last night? Could it be the wonder ingredient? If celery salt works in the same manner, I'm on a winner, I LOVE the stuff. Congrats on hittting the 12st mark!

TrickyWoo whoa, great loss, you go lady!

Eva, you should change your MN name to EvatheElephantTamer Smile.

sybilfaulty oh, remoulade, thank you for reminding me of this, it is most delicious! From the BBC Food website, here are ingredients and method:

This remoulade recipe is the perfect way to use celeriac. It's great as a starter with charcuterie or smoked fish.

Ingredients
small celeriac, cut into thin strips
lemon, juice only
2 tbsp double cream
3 tbsp good-quality mayonnaise
2 tsp Dijon mustard
salt and white pepper

Preparation method
1.Place the celeriac strips into a bowl along with the lemon and juice and toss to combine.
2.Mix the double cream, mayonnaise and mustard together then stir into the celeriac.
3.Season with salt and white pepper.
4.Place in the fridge for a couple of hours for the flavours to develop before serving.

Finally, for all of you full of winter, much love and warmth, I hope it soon passes.

PrimalLass · 05/02/2014 13:17

B: yog and berries. Coffee.
D: 2 x slices of pork stuffing unearthed from the freezer. H/m chicken, cauli and leek soup.
D: steak with peppercorn sauce, mashed swede, green beans.

Lots of water, mint tea etc.

EvaTheOptimist · 05/02/2014 13:21

Chipping you poor thing. When mum/relatives arrive can you say you know this way of eating stops your weight from increasing? As, being such a brilliant stay-the-samer, you know that to be true.

And good luck with Docs, I hope they are both sympathetic and well-informed.

Chester I have an immune-system condition which gives me crap skin and hair so I have had no expectations there! From what I can tell low-carbing hasn't affected this one way or another for me.

(and its one of my motivations backing up my light-bulb moment - "well at least I'm now thin with crap hair instead of fat with crap hair")

I'm off to a check-up with consultant for this, this afternoon. I've learned to keep my expectations low from these visits. Though DH wants me to be really pushy and say "is this medication really working?". DH seems to think I'm not suffering too badly "because I'm getting better on my own" and therefore thinks I should stop the medication. I fail to see the logic - I AM taking the medication and therefore am not getting better "on my own". Though the issue is I'm neither getting better or worse, as such.

hopebeyondreason · 05/02/2014 14:00

I haven't been posting, as it's all gone to pot. It started going to pot last week, when I was still sticking to Bootcamp pretty much, but started to put weight back on. At the weekend, I had a fair bit of wine and a bit of cake, but didn't go too much overboard and otherwise stuck to stuff I could have on bootcamp light. And on Monday morning I was 4lbs heavier than I had been the previous week. That meant that I hadn't lost anything at all on bootcamp and was only a couple of pounds down since the beginning of the year.

It seems too hard and fairly pointless, to be honest. I'm doing it to lose weight. Clearly it's working for some people, but it isn't working for me. The last couple of days, I have felt very tired and have been eating bread again.

I'm not sure why I'm posting now, as this seems to be spoiling a rather happy thread.

MyPreciousRing · 05/02/2014 14:29

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SteeleyeStan · 05/02/2014 14:48

hope I'm sorry you feel crappy. The thing is BIWI is right about this not being a forgiving WOE. BC Lite would already most likely slow down anyone's weight loss as compared to proper BC, and if you have transgressions on top of that (even small amounts), it will mess with your ketosis and any possible weight loss.

betty that's genious adding cocoa butter! Where do you buy it from? I got some ages ago online for making raw chocolate, but haven't had any in ages. The smell was gorgeous.

GatoradeMeBitch · 05/02/2014 15:17

I tried to pan fry cod fillets and they fell apart, so I've mixed in some shallots, parmesan and bacon and will have with lettuce on the side.

And then another helping later - four cod meals in two days. I did not plan well.

humanordancer · 05/02/2014 15:20

Hello all, I'm totally behind with the thread, so planning to to start keeping up from now.

I stayed the same again this week, which I expected as I was faced with a very difficult social situation where I was obliged to eat potatoes, twice. For dinner and breakfast.

If things had been even slightly different, I would have found a way round it. But in the circumstances, it would have caused great offense. (I won't be letting it happen again.) Dinner was tartiflette, with balsamic-y leaves. Nothing else. It was very disheartening.

So, pressing on! I'm still a good deal slimmer than I was on NYD. The trend, etc...

StuntNun · 05/02/2014 15:38

Thumbwitch head over to Briffa, he allows berries and cherries (just not too many).

Don't worry too much about the squashy belly Gatorade. I lost weight quite rapidly when I started low carbing (2 lb a week at first which I put down to intensive breastfeeding at the time) and it took a whole longer for my skin to catch up with the weight loss. Afaik you lose the internal 'visceral' fat preferentially first but you need to lose the subcutaneous fat under the skin as well; as you lose that fat the skin will shrink back more slowly.

Pork scratchings Grumpy? I got a box of the posh ones from Amazon and they're luvverly.

My skin was better in the summer than now. Maybe it will improve in the Spring?

ThatYoghurtWontPotItself · 05/02/2014 15:40

i saw an excellent phrase on another thread the other day where they are trying to avoid sugar - 'social obligation sugar' or SOS. it made me laugh because it's so true

humanordancer you encountered social obligation carbs (SOC). it's such a bugger but it happens

HeirToTheIronThrone · 05/02/2014 15:41

Supermarket find of the day from me - I really wanted soup for lunch rather than the somewhat past its best salad I took to the office with me. Waitrose own brand Chicken & Mushroom is only 5g carbs per portion and is very tasty and comforting.

I need it as still feeling like a proper wet weekend... But - am in the 12s rather than the 13s for the first time, so hooray!

ThatYoghurtWontPotItself · 05/02/2014 15:42

my skin is better generally (brighter, no spots, dark circles under eye much reduced etc), but i had a nasty eczema-like rash on my chin/mouth from January to August last year, a year and more into low carbing, and the bastard thing didn't go away until i got antibiotics. so it's not a cure-all unfortunately. i know that some people with rosacea have reported improvements, and that it gets worse again when they eat carbs

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