Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

[BIWI]

Morning.

I see that some of us are struggling.

I see that there is a lot of cheating.

Hmm. I wonder if there is a connection

Seriously folks, this is not a terribly forgiving WOE. The idea of Bootcamp Light was to give you a bit more flexibility, but not to send you spiralling into a chocolate and alcohol-fuelled frenzy!

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness or on your own personal Weight Tracker

Remember that weight loss may stop in weeks 3 and 4 - sometimes 5. It takes this long for your body to become keto adapted, i.e. to switch fully from carb-burning to fat-burning.

And if you're continually pushing up your daily carb intake, all you are doing is delaying this process

Hope you all have a good week.

((Drags Nell back up onto low carb wagon.....))

Chipping...what do you eat as a low carbing non egg eating vegetarian?

Water and fat are the key!
How about celery and almond butter? Am getting some today so will let you know what it is like.

Seri and pseudo, celeriac does reduce a lot when you make chips, and I find it doesn't really ever get crispy like potato, more chewy, but I still like it. But it gives me horrendous wind so I rarely have it

Keeponkeepingon re evenings I think you should try changing your routine in some way at your 'risky' time. I know that's easier said than done if you're tied to the house with sleeping children, but instead of doing whatever it is you normally do while eating the carbs, sit somewhere else, do another activity (preferably one that uses your hands like knitting or writing). Do an exercise DVD or go for a walk if you can get out of the house. Have a bath and then paint your nails - it doesn't matter what, but just do something differently so that you don't find yourself in the same place at the same time eating carbs again

(Also don't have them in the house if possible )

I can't catch up

Quick blah, then: down 3lbs today after going up 6lbs last week. Could be:

a) stopped eating cheese two days ago because I was eating a LOT;

b) the shock of the carby bottle of cava I had in a temper tantrum; or

c) having a two day temper tantrum uses up a hell of a lot more calories than I'd ever suspected.

I WILL catch up later, oh, but also quickly, to those faced with aggression over their choices - I just say a part of the truth (which is nonetheless very true for me): sugar painfully inflames my joints, particularly my fingers; the more refined the sugar, the more instant the inflammation. So I'm trying to keep clear of as much as possible, and that includes food that turns straight to sugar, such as bread, pasta etc...

Oh no Crabby and Trash, I must be very innocent as it hadn't even crossed my mind that you could ahem 'misuse' those machines. Really hoping it hasn't crossed my dd's mind either!!

Anyway must dash, just got to go and tone up my thighs!!

Morning!

Meal plan for today:
B- breakfast tortilla
L- tomato and chilli duck breast with dark greens salad
D- sirloin steak and stuffed mushrooms

Lots of water, lots of rooibo.

Have a great day!

Whoop whoop!

Scales say 160lb today, so thats a 3lb loss this week

No alcohol since Sat, strict BC Sun-today has worked, oh, and Ive come on

Happy today!

Morning all

As always, catching up :)

Piscivorus I might try that instead, I'm not sure if I like peanut butter though, I've never had it. I like peanuts but for some reason the thought of peanut butter gives me the boak

I've not been hungry for breakfast for a while now but had some today as I play badminton at lunch so wouldn't eat until 3pm if I didn't.

B: Egg in a cup, coffee with cream
L: Left over meatballs and courgetti, yoghurt with linseends
D: Spare ribs, celeriac something, other veggies followed by berry crumble - have someone coming for dinner who has a diabetic partner so said I'd make this then she could see if it might be something that her husband could eat.

Trashcan I have just told work colleagues that I have given up sugar but one woman keeps asking "still no sugar?" and looking in my mug at coffee ARGH, I've NEVER had sugar in my tea or coffee anyway!!!!

Its more the way she says it than what she says, everyone else says "Still no sugar? Well done" in a good for you sort of way. I think this woman is waiting for me to shout "I'm fucking fat, why the fuck do you think I've given up sugar?!!!"

Sorry, deep breath in....and out.

Well done ring nice feeling having clothes looser...as long as they don't actually fall off

and 3 lbs down is fantastic monkeyface

Morning everyone.

Gatorade - thanks for those links. I've been meaning to look up what the Swedes are up to re: guidelines and you've saved me a job!

It looks like I'm going to have to bite the bullet and buy some coconut oil - I keep looking at it, looking at the price and walking off! I might have to give those fat bombs a go.

Well done ring

And how did I miss that gym conversation?

Have a good day everyone

Weighed myself this morning - for the first time I hit 12st exactly - yay!
But may have screwed things a bit by simply not eating enough!

B - slice of cheese (in case anyone is wondering, I make Ds a sandwich every day, and the bread is bigger than one slice of cheese, so I have to use a little bit of another slice and then eat the rest. Tragic, I know)
L - parmesan crackers, can't remember if I had anything else, probably not
D - fried salmon fillet with broccoli and carrots and butter; followed by Greek yoghurt with double cream, blueberries and chopped cherries.
Bit slow on the water today but still got time...

at the gym! In full view of everyone?? I too must be an innocent, it wouldn't even occur to me... mind you, according to SIL I am The Only Woman In Essex Without A Vibrator™ so that's probably why.

Managed to avoid cakes/biscuits/sweets at rehearsal last night and also got round the 'cup of tea' dilemma - I was in Twatrose yesterday looking for the Delouis mayo and I saw that Lactofree now do 5x20ml pyramid cartons of UHT milk in a net bag - they're only 0.54g of carbs per carton! So I took one with me and was able to have a nice cuppa with everyone else (they don't have decaff and I hate drinking fully leaded coffee in the evening). Think I may keep one in my handbag from now on, just in case :)

Yay Thumbwitch ! But why are you still having carrots and cherries? They are well carby!

Still not doing well with water. I wake up every morning determined and have 500ml, then it all goes to pot and I end up trying to glug a litre last thing at night and waking up to go to the loo every 5 minutes - and it's still not enough water! Today I am clearing out the dining room so that we can get it replastered where the boiler leaked, so I'm going to take my bottle of water and put the kitchen timer on at half hourly intervals to remind me to drink some!

SarahBeenys, they had one brand of coconut oil in H&B in the penny sale, but it had all sold out of my local branch :( and the alternative one was £15 for a small jar - however, I tried the independent health shop nearby and got a big jar of pure organic stuff for £10.99 - might be worth shopping around?

Have got my act together this morning and had bacon and eggs (I seem to have had nowt but dairy recently and am feeling blobby - although that could be due to the lack of water, dairy has never given me problems in the past) with salad planned for lunch and roast lamb for tonight.

Have a great day everyone :o

Sarah the coconut oil lasts ages so the price isn't as bad as it seems.

I thought peanut butter was out because peanuts are carby and legumes besides. Almond butter is lower carb and tastes similar, I buy the Meridian brand because it only has two ingredients: almonds and salt.

I have found a great article from the diet doctor on low carb diets and other factors that affect weight loss. Point 4 says that if you have been on a low fat diet prior to starting a low carb WOE then not losing weight can mean that you are regaining muscle mass that you lost on the low fat diet. So if the scales aren't budging for you bear in mind that you may be burning fat but gaining muscle mass at the same time.

Hi everyone, just a quick post,
Sayra I feel the same about peanuts - they are not supposed to be sweet
Crabby the "pie" sounds fab if rather complicated and hard work! I've got swede and celeriac to use up, and the mixed dolphin pose, whoever suggested it, is inspired!!
trashcan I was lurking not posting but really felt for you with people that you should be able to rely on to support you regardless... I hope you are feeling ok now, and really glad DH is with you in it.

Sorry to everyone I've forgotten, congratulations to all those who have lost. I'm with whoever asked how much all this snot weighs . I've done lots of socialising and sleeping, how will I find time to go back to work! And stayed on the wagon despite Monday's infuriating coke moment.

Lovecat - I can't keep doing this if I can't eat the cherries. I may go bootcamp again when cherry season is over but not just now. Carrots are a staple veg in our house and I give most of mine to the 16mo anyway.

For all of you who are having trouble with people sticking their uninformed beaks into your eating habits, I just had an idea. Trash you were saying that you can't remember the facts under pressure and I thought 'ooh she needs a leaflet or something' and then I thought of this: home educators can carry a little card around stating that you are a home educator, with the relevant legislation on it to wave at people who accuse your child of truanting. I've designed one for us lot. We can keep it in our wallets and just smilingly hand it over as soon as the person starts spouting the usual shit. And just think... if we're in an accident and go to hospital, they can read the card and know not to feed us IV cake or anything.

My name is _ and I am a low carber.

As there are a number of misconceptions about low carbing, some of which you've just shown that you currently subscribe to, let me clear a couple of things up...

1. We do eat carbs, plently of them in fact. We get them from vegetables, nuts and a variety of fruit.
2. Pasta, bread and rice are jolly nice, but they are not in any way essential. They are foodstuffs developed to feed vast numbers of people, cheaply. We don't need them to be healthy.
3. Sugar is not a food group. I know that's hard to believe, but any dietician, doctor or scientist, when pressed firmly, will have to admit it.

If you still want to know more about it (as I'm sure you wouldn't want to argue against this way of eating from a position of utter ignorance!) you could start with these scientists and doctors....

Crabby, that's brilliant :o

Thumb, sorry, I wasn't meaning to sound arsey - I'm very impressed you can eat cherries and still lose (would be the kiss of death for me...)

Happy when I weighed myself today. Have now gone all the way through the 12s and am 0.75lb in to the 11s.

And I've not been too strict.

And I don't care if I sound smug I am smug

Don't worry LOvecat, I didn't think you were being arsey :)

Crabby that's brilliant!

Nell can you tell us about your motivation for losing weight? I think you need a light-bulb moment. Before I found this WOE I would beat myself up every night about the amount of food I'd eaten each day, and make good resolutions for the next day, which would last until approx 11am on a good day.

Then I read a thread on Mumsnet called What was your lightbulb moment when you decided to lose weight? or something. Reading that thread WAS my light-bulb moment.

Especially as it was invaded by bootcampers on week 2 of Spring 2013 bootcamp! I went to have a look, thought NO FRUIT, ARE THEY MAD? then thought, No, I'm going to follow every rule and do as I'm told for once.

I've done this with cast-iron willpower, thanks to the light-bulb moment - cos I certainly didn't have any willpower before.

But as Crabby's mega post sort of said, the willpower gets so much easier after a short time. Right now you have to have charge of the Wild Elephant because you WILL be pacing the kitchen looking for trouble (what a way with words Crabby!!) After 2-4 weeks of absolutely no cheating, the carb cravings won't be there any more or will be tiny. After that, you only have to have much easier willpower over the "Sensible Rider" bit of the brain - the one that can think "I'm not having a sandwich because I don't eat bread". the one that plans the meals or the tricky-going-out situations. Cheating kind of resets this schedule (carb cravings start again).

But its really hard to get in charge of the Wild Elephant without a really good light-bulb moment, some over-riding motivation to lose weight.

Also I've missed in all of this that you're a bit under the weather so that's really not fair - I'm sorry. So its a combination of Take Care of yourself and Look for the light-bulb

Heir yes I will put it up on the blog at some point, I just have to tweak the recipe a bit and streamline the timings.

Chipping mmmmmm...muffins. Ok I admit it, I have the whoosh fairy imprisoned over here - I've been trying to 'persuade' her to relieve me of a few pounds. I'll disguise her injuries and release her this morning.

Durham and Trash I've never even heard of a vibrostep, so not guilty on the masturbatory gym antics. As soon as I saw the name though, I couldn't resist the innuendo potential. If there's an obvious joke to be made, I just have to make it however inappropriate that may be.

Sayra last summer when my MIL was making faces behind my back at me not having pudding and having stuck to low carb throughout the meal, I lost patience and grabbed a photograph from the drawer which showed me in skintight jeans and a balconette bra, at my maddest and thinnest (still busty though). I stuck it under the noses of her, my SIL and (mortified) BIL, saying very firmly I may have been drunk "This is what I looked like 11 years ago. I'm not meant to be fat and I'm not going to be!". Strangely enough there have been no more comments, though they did laugh at me when I turned up to dinner last time with my own swede. Maybe you could pin up a photo of yourself all young and lithe and when she says "still no sugar?" just smile, point to the photo and say "nope!".

Thumb Yay for 12 stone! As Lovecat said, ditch the carrots at least! Can't you pit and freeze the cherries whilst they're in season? Then you'll have plenty after bootcamp.

LittleMiss it was a long preparation time, which is what I need to tweak. I think prepping beforehand is the key. A large cauli and three leeks made enough for the sauce and soup left over, so maybe making a batch of the soup ahead and then reserving some for the pie sauce. The main prep was slicing the celeriac for the dolphin pose, the rest of it was all done whilst that was in the oven. Would still be delicious to just serve the filling and stick the cooked dolphin pose on top. Maybe that's the answer.

I thank you.

And YY to Eva - totally agree.

Miss and all the other snotty/poorly ones, hope you feel better soon.

I think I might print that card out actually Crabby! I thought family would be supportive, but my Dad is fussing at me to put grains back in my diet, I can tell he thinks I'm a heart attack waiting to happen.

I had a packet of roast chicken slices for breakfast - why does chicken taste so disgusting out of a packet? I had to struggle to finish!

I'm starting to notice a difference in the size of my abdomen. It's where I carry a lot of my weight, actually I resemble a heavily pregnant woman! It has shrunk to the point where trousers that cut into me pre-diet are now very comfortable. I am worried about loose skin though. This is TMI but the fat was solid before, now it's really squishy, so the fat is going, but my skin doesn't seem to be reacting to that. I'm moisturizing, plus eating fat and drinking lots of water, but I hate that I'm probably going to be left with a wrinkly stomach. I wish I hadn't let things get this bad.

Plus I realized today that I'm not supposed to eat calcium within four hours of taking my thyroid medication - which I take three times a day, so that's going to be a bit fiddly. The dairy is my favourite part of this diet! Hence just chicken slices for breakfast today...

Eva your posts are always very powerful - I realise it wasn't addressed to me, but thank you for writing that.

Who posted the cream cheese pancake link? I am so grateful you did!! I did them without the sweetener - so just an ounce of cream cheese per egg, beat the life out of it in the mixer as it was a bit stubborn about going smooth - and they would double as wraps, or probably even bread-type stuff. I made them for a friend and I at lunch time, served with some ham hock and a big pile of rocket with homemade dressing. Wonderful - and as I wasn't feeling well I went to bed about 6 without dinner and slept through til 7:30 this morning, with a trip to the loo (of course!!)

So I now have a couple of solid lunch time recipes for friends, DH, etc.

Back to clinic today for my legs/ feet - I am feeling optimistic (but might end up with more minor surgery scheduled, but after the last mammoth one, a quick and very beneficial operation on my toes will be a walk in the park. Maybe not a walk, a wheel in the park )

Crabby I like it, maybe have it printed on t-shirts [joking]

Lovecat wrt water - I have a water filter jug, I have 1/2 litre before breakfast, then fill it to 1.25 and aim to drink that by lunchtime, and fill it to 1.25 again and drink it by teatime. It means I go to the loo a lot in the day but a maximum of once at night. Could you do that? Having the jug in front of me is a visual reminder that I am supposed to be emptying it! I think I'd probably take it to work with me if when I go back, but realise that's not practical for everyone.