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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

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BIWI · 03/02/2014 08:28

Morning.

I see that some of us are struggling.

I see that there is a lot of cheating.

Hmm. I wonder if there is a connection Grin

Seriously folks, this is not a terribly forgiving WOE. The idea of Bootcamp Light was to give you a bit more flexibility, but not to send you spiralling into a chocolate and alcohol-fuelled frenzy!

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness or on your own personal Weight Tracker

Remember that weight loss may stop in weeks 3 and 4 - sometimes 5. It takes this long for your body to become keto adapted, i.e. to switch fully from carb-burning to fat-burning.

And if you're continually pushing up your daily carb intake, all you are doing is delaying this process

Hope you all have a good week.

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Lovecat · 09/02/2014 11:06

Thanks BIWI

Without these threads and everything you've posted over the years I'd never have got it together to lose the half stone that I have in the last 4 weeks.

It's been 10 years since I got pg with DD and gave up low-carbing (which had successfully kept me at my ideal weight for 3 years before that, but I got scared about what LC-ing might to do the baby (you know me of old, you remember that DD was our one-shot, 'miracle' baby and I wasn't about to do anything to jeopardise that!) so I stopped, and then I just couldn't start again. I tried and tried but never lasted longer than a few days. It's only now that I feel my head is in the right place and I can do it, and I'm so very glad that you stuck at it and stuck around and I can join in with everyone - the help and support on this thread is amazing.

I have a small frame myself and I know exactly what you mean about hating the blobby bits that stubbornly refuse to budge, even though when clothed to the outside world you might look 'fine' - I've had people telling me before that I'm 'too thin', but they tend to be people who didn't know me before I put weight on, and didn't realise that I am meant to be that 'thin'! I absolutely hate shopping for clothes when nothing fits/looks right - it's a special kind of depression that takes over :(

Crabby you're a case in point, I thought - wow! when I saw your picture (that's a gorgeous dress, btw), but I don't know you in RL and so I don't know what you feel is right for you.

While I'm rambling on I'd like to thank all bootcampers on this thread and others for their marvellous help and support, I could not have come this far without you all, you have given me the determination to succeed at LC-ing again :)

And now I'm off to drink several litres of water.... :o

SteeleyeStan · 09/02/2014 11:10

Thanks for kind comments about my pics. :) I think the biggest difference is actually in my face (though 9 inches off my waist is pretty great too!), but I'm too much of a chicken to post face photos.

I've been a bit stupid. I stayed up most of the night on the computer, and "somehow" went through quite a few cheese slices spread and rolled up with peanut butter. (DH claims this is weird Hmm ) and this morning I'm 2lb heavier than yesterday. Could be a combination of things of course; not a lot of sleep, more snacking, big dose of painkillers etc. Still, tomorrow the scales might not show a loss. Oh well. It was pretty stupid to buy peanut butter anyway, when I know I can't resist it.

Sorry to not catch up properly; my head is pounding (no, I haven't had alcohol!)

Foods for the day...
B: I already ate two Leerdammer slices with plenty of Whole Earth Chunky. Blush
L: Avocado and eggs.
D: Smoked mackrell with green beans and broccoli.

thenightsky · 09/02/2014 11:21

BIWI I know what you mean about being flabby round the middle Sad I too have abs of steel, but they are covered by a layer of looseness that could be stretched skin and fat I guess. It means that even though I'm only 6lb off my goal, I'm wondering if that, even when I hit my goal, I'm still going to have that muffin top.

MrsHerculePoirot · 09/02/2014 11:27

steeleye I find what time I eat a night has a major affect on what I weigh the next morning. So I can eat exactly the same thing at 6 pm, and have lost weight overnight, or eat it at 9pm and will appear to have put on overnight. I found that eating earlier then just having water between then and bed helped keep me on track the best. Does that make sense?

toomuchicecream · 09/02/2014 11:34

6 years ago my mum had leukaemia (she's fine now) and when, after 5 months of vicious treatment, she was discharged from hospital so was sooo thin you could see every one of her vertebrae, including a very prominent tail bone. She still had a roll of fat on her tummy. So don't beat yourself up if you've still got flab on your tummy. I've concluded it's an unavoidable part of being an adult and a mother.

ChesterDrawers · 09/02/2014 12:11

Sat in the car at the services waiting for DH to bring me a black decaf so having a sneaky mumsnet while DS sleeps. Peace, ahh...

Haven't read back through everything I've missed but wanted to give BIWI some Flowers I know exactly how you feel. I'm 5ft 4 and pre DS was 9st-ish, size 8-10 but always felt fat. Looking back I could probably just have done with some toning but instead I was always on and off a diet, which has led me to be 11 st!

Do you think some toning might help? I have a couple of books which use body weight exercises and claim to transform you in 20 mins a day, three times a week. It's just strength so muscle building and stuff you can do at home. I can find out what they are called later if anyone would be interested. Shamed to say I've never stuck at them Blush, quel fucking surpise, eh?!

Hope everyone else is having a good day. We are en route to Bad Carb Lunch, but I am in the zone and ready with my wings of steel to deflect those roast potatoes and Yorkshire puddings. Will have a good catch up later.

BIWI · 09/02/2014 12:27

I don't think I could really tone much more, being realistic, Chester. I see my trainer twice a week and do a lot of core work.

Thank you all, you are all being very kind.

I know that it's weight that I have to lose, because the scales are telling me so as well. Even though I've lost on Bootcamp so far, all I'm doing is catching up and getting myself back to where I was before I started getting complacent last year, pre-Christmas.

A salutary lesson, I think! It takes no time at all to put it back on again, but an age to shed it. I was down/miserable about it yesterday because there is no-one to blame except for myself.

But, as they say, tomorrow is another day Grin

Onwards and downwards ...

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Ruprekt · 09/02/2014 13:24

Sorry Biwi ConfusedConfused (you did ask for the stick though)

humanordancer · 09/02/2014 14:26

Hello all. And thanks to BIWI for keeping us all keeping on Thanks

At the start of this WOE I got my mother to take a photo of me from behind, wearing just jeans and my bra. Having been in denial for so long, it was really only at that moment that I could see where my extra 2 stones were - in three rolls down my sides. Now there are two. I know that if I hadn't taken control, there would soon have been four. And that was because I was conditioned to think that fat was bad.

Facing things today, I know I've had a good loss overall since NY, but in all honesty I've been a little lax on the wine front, a little lavish with the cheese, and - occasionally - a little remiss with the water.

So today I'm going to start posting my food, drinking my water, avoiding that wine. It's so easy to fudge it all in your own - my own - head.

Breakfast: 2 boiled eggs with butter (more brunch time really)
Lunch: leftover roast chicken, buttery veg - sprouting broccoli, savoy cabbage, courgettes and leeks.
Dinner: Avocado salad with delouis aioli (much prefer this to the mayonaise) Pudding: a bit of yogurt with coconut oil.

Pressing on and awaiting the whoosh Grin

BIWI · 09/02/2014 14:36

I did, Ruprekt. I won't be making that mistake again! But I asked for it because I wanted support. Not to be told that I might have body dysmorphia or that I shouldn't worry because being size 8-10 is slim enough.

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RatherBeOnThePiste · 09/02/2014 14:36

Afternoon all, just checking in.

Still here, completely on the wagon doing the whole Bootcamp thang. Definitely into the steady weightloss phase, the weeks of 4 or 3lbs are gone but it's all good, and the trend is my friend.

Roll on Week 5, your arse is mine.

Thanks
BIWI · 09/02/2014 14:38

Anyway - here is a line:

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Enough about me. Let's talk about you ... Grin

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monkeyfacegrace · 09/02/2014 14:42

Oh goody, Im fab at talking about me Grin

Ive just eaten a whole entire 200g Mattesons smoked pork sausage. 1.8g carbs, but 40g of fat. Not sure if thats good or not, but the alternitive was a doughnut Hmm

BIWI · 09/02/2014 14:46

Much better than the doughnut! Although I don't know how you managed it ...

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humanordancer · 09/02/2014 14:48

Athelstane, you have described my frame almost exactly!

Lighthousekeeping · 09/02/2014 15:08

I've just thrown half a roast chicken out. I've eaten it for the past three nights and couldn't face looking at it again. Because I've been thinking of it between two slices of white bread with loads of Branston Pickle Sad.

The good news is I'm off work now for three days. I have a lovely steak in the fridge and I'm off to M and S soon to buy something lovely to go with it.

Can I ask a question? What's with the standing on the scales every day that some people seem to be doing? I thought the rule was every Monday?

BIWI · 09/02/2014 15:11

Lighthousekeeping - there's no rule about when you should weigh. We just happen to have a Monday weigh-in.

Some people find that weighing daily keeps them focused and on track. For others it sends them a bit doolally if they can't cope with the daily variation - because your weight does fluctuate quite naturally on a daily basis.

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Lighthousekeeping · 09/02/2014 15:15

I'm the ignorance is bliss type Smile

I will find it a battle to drink enough water today as I've only just woke up! I'm going to have to dilute it with sugar free Robinsons. It's so easy to drink it at work.

Ambassadoryouarespoilingme · 09/02/2014 15:20

hi all
First up, BIWI, although we are officially NOT talking about you, just wanted to send Thanks because without this thread I would not be doing this. And I think we're all agreed that the numbers on the scales only have an element of effect on how we feel about ourselves. Anyway, I think you are great.
SarahBeeny...you asked me about running. Well I started running when my DD2 was about a year old. I was over 13stone and 5'5 and had no sleep for about 3 years, so mainlining food to drag myself through the day. I started seeing a trainer, on the basis that I had plenty of clothes but felt crap in them, so better to invest the new clothes money in a trainer to help me fit better in the old clothes. I was lucky to find a really encouraging trainer, who knows the right balance of pushing me to do more without making me feel like a fat muppet for finding it hard. I started in October, 2 hours a week, and did my first 10k race in the following October, but I think I could have done one before that. I went from running (eg half walking) for about 45 mins but covering about 2 miles, to now running for 45 mins and doing about 4.5 miles. I did a 10k this am in 1 hr 13 mins and was sad not to beat my best time ever of 1hr 10 mins, but its not a disaster. Slow and steady is the key: I run 4 x a week, for an hour, after I've dropped the kids at school. I work from home so just start work an hour later and finish later - which is very lucky, I know. I almost always run with someone else as I'm too lazy to go far enough on my own. The biggest battle with running is in my head. You can do it, and it makes you feel wonderful once you realise how far you've come. Its lowered by blood pressure so much that the nurse at the GP was concerned it was extremely low for my age.
Anyway, sorry about the essay there. But seriously, if an overweight, knackered, lazy and unsporty person like me can get into running, anyone can.
Thank you for your kind comments on my misdemeanours on Friday / Saturday. Am back on track now. And despite the hangover, I'm also quite amazed that my sugar cravings didn't return, and even the bit of chocolate I had (for medicinal purposes, you understand) tasted super sweet and sickly.
Hope you all have a lovely Sunday.

prettybird · 09/02/2014 15:47

I know we're not supposed to be talking about you any more BIWI but I just wanted to say that although you are petite and neat and look fabulous I know what you mean about what you feel/see under your well chosen clothes.

Dh gives me a sense of reality: even through he loves (and has always loved) my body no matter what shape it is and (TMI alert) loves to see me naked Blush, he is rather too quick not slow to tell me that I've still got wobbly bits to work on. He is very encouraging about the progress I have made and knows where I want to get to and doesn't sugar coat Wink the message until I get there.

NellVarnish · 09/02/2014 15:48

I have been on a Carby Rollercoaster this week and despite all your wise words and helpful suggestions and support, have continued to eat like a Sugary Twat. I don't know what's been up with me but I'm back on BC tomorrow and will stick to it.

Trying not to get down :( and I'm writing this week off, it's not the end of the world, is it? Trying to get things in perspective, it is but a small setback.

In other news I've found all my baskets of woolly goodness and will be crocheting badly in an attempt to ward off the Bastard Emotional Eating.

How's everyone else doing? I'm away to catch up ...

PS Pistey I found your Woolly Hugs blog, it's fab - when I'm up to speed I'll attempt some shoddy crocheting for you. Also followed your Pinterest board - I'm the tartan one.

Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on
NellVarnish · 09/02/2014 16:28

Thanks for your messages the other day Eva, supersal, Chester, MyPrecious and Crabby Thanks

Crabby get your arse round to mine and make my dinners! I truly cba cooking mostly - prefer baking. And eating it. And therein lies my downfall. I cook for six or seven most nights and it really is a chore after work. You know these people who cook with love as one of their ingredients? Well I pop resentment in mine. Grin

Hope the platelet donation went ok Pistey.

Grin at trashcan's fanjo! And yay to the downward turn!

I've still not got my mandolin, but thanks for the recommendation LittleMiss. I used to think a treat was a new nail varnish or a mascara and now it's a buggery julienne peeler or a feckin mandolin.
Or a tin of corned beef. Grin

You lot make me laugh - snowiebear's fresh breath and a tidy colon!

Must try the Kashmiri chicken, thanks Crabby, and well done - I would be over the moon to be 10st10 again.

Good luck Cider and suzymoo.

Calamity I sympathise. I've been a bit demotivated as well as you can probably tell, and wasn't sure if I was having too much of one thing and not enough of another and it sent me off the rails. I've had a Carby Week and I feel rubbish so I'm going back on BC tomorrow.

This is turning into another epic post. It moves so fast, I wish I could keep up with you all! I'm only up to Thursday at 2125!

daisychicken · 09/02/2014 16:44

Just wanted to say BIWI that I hope it wasn't my message yesterday that made you think I was talking about body dysmorphia - I wasn't honestly and I'm sorry if it was my message that made you feel that. I was just trying to say that what I see of myself isn't what my friends and family see (those I can trust to be honest that is). I can only see my not so good points, the points that I need work on and I get a bit blinded by that rather than see me as a whole. I'm not saying you do or do not need to lose weight, only you can judge that but sometimes we can be a bit too critical of ourselves and forget the hardwork we've put in to get to the point we are at now.

I won't say anything else so moving on....

NellVarnish · 09/02/2014 17:23

Just caught up with the rest of the thread - the photos are amazing, well done Crabby, Steeleye and good, you look brilliant!

MyPrecious don't go ...

BIWI - M&S changing room mirrors are the work of the devil, whatever your size, just keep on keeping on.

Good luck to everyone for the forthcoming week!

The Trend is our Friend!

NellVarnish · 09/02/2014 17:27

Crabby just looked at your fish stew recipe way too much effort pour moi, and I love the chart timer thing. Think this would work well in our Food Tech lessons - would help pupils to develop their time management skills. Thanks