Week 4 Low Carb Bootcamp - Keep on keeping on

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Morning.

I see that some of us are struggling.

I see that there is a lot of cheating.

Hmm. I wonder if there is a connection

Seriously folks, this is not a terribly forgiving WOE. The idea of Bootcamp Light was to give you a bit more flexibility, but not to send you spiralling into a chocolate and alcohol-fuelled frenzy!

Come and confess all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness or on your own personal Weight Tracker

Remember that weight loss may stop in weeks 3 and 4 - sometimes 5. It takes this long for your body to become keto adapted, i.e. to switch fully from carb-burning to fat-burning.

And if you're continually pushing up your daily carb intake, all you are doing is delaying this process

Hope you all have a good week.

Just realised we haven't seen helium lately..... Has anyone seen her on any other threads ? If you are lurking - are you Ok Helium ?

Thanks to a reduced offer at the supermarket I've discovered that asparagus sends my weight down the next day when eaten as the main greens for lunch and dinner (it was very reduced so I bought lots). Seems to be some sort of secret low carb weapon (or a seriously effective diuretic) - anyone else noticed this?

I've been nosing around on the website Yogurt/Willie linked to earlier. There was a page about how to be in optimum ketosis:

Its nothing we didn't know - ie you need a ratio of most Fat: Protein: Carbs least. But the trick of eating more fat than protein is maybe hard to do. More butter anyone?

Link: www.dietdoctor.com/lose-weight-by-achieving-optimal-ketosis

and quote:

"The trick here is not only to avoid all obvious sources of carbohydrate (sweets, bread, spaghetti, rice, potatoes), but also to be careful with your protein intake. If you eat large amounts of meat, eggs and the like, the excess protein will converted into glucose in the body. Large amounts of protein can also raise your insulin levels somewhat. This compromises optimal ketosis.

The secret to getting around this is usually to eat your fill with more fat. For example, if you have a bigger helping of herb butter to your steak, you might not feel like having a second steak, and instead feel satisfied after the first one."

Eva - this correlates with what I've read as well (The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living by Volek and Phinney). Basically if you consume more than your protein requirements your body handles that excess as a carb. I'm pretty sure I'm eating more protein than I need and I was planning to track it on MFP if I stall.

As to how to eat more fat, I have no real clue and hopefully someone more experienced will come along in a bit. I've been adding vinaigrette/mayo/butter to anything I can. You can cook with dripping as well! I've also started having mascarpone instead of yoghurt as it's really just fat with very little protein or carbs. I don't have it in yoghurt sized portions though...even though I'd like to!

My dalliance with celeriac is over. It gave me wind. Painful wind. Back to cauliflower for me.

I'll give suede a go, I think that will suit me better!

For fat SarahBeeny you could try what I do and eat coconut oil straight off the spoon? I have one tbsp with each meal. It's a bit of an acquired taste, it feels like putting coconut scented candlewax in your mouth, but I let it melt, swish it round a bit because it's good for gum health, and swallow. I actually enjoy it now.

Just shit shouting here as this all moves too fast for me!

Re fat bombs. I have made these before which are nice: equal parts of salted butter, peanut butter and coconut oil melted and poured into a small container. Pop in the freezer. Cut before too solid.
I keep them in the freezer and they have an almost crunchy texture.

Trash I am shocked at your friends. It doesn't matter if you have different opinions but to make you cry and carry on pushing I think is quite bullying. You look after yourself and "Nil Illegitimi Carborundum" as they say! (That's don't let the bastards grind you down for those that didn't learn Latin! )

My cousin is a diabetic and tells me regularly that she knows about nutrition because of that and because she went to catering college so I just bite my tongue when she insists on low fat crap and desist from pointing out that her weight is around her middle which is not healthy and while following her healthy diet she has gone from 1 tablet to 2 to 3 to lizard spit injections and finally onto insulin.

I don't tell people that I am low carbing I just say that I have changed what I eat for health reasons and they rarely pursue it.

Interesting articles taken from here (you may not be able to read the first link if you're not a member) healthunlocked.com/thyroiduk/posts/130488226/apparently-im-one-of-those-....-i-dont-believe-in-the-this-is-what-you-should-eat-fairy-....-swedish-meat-balls?ref=email_dailyB

healthimpactnews.com/2013/sweden-becomes-first-western-nation-to-reject-low-fat-diet-dogma-in-favor-of-low-carb-high-fat-nutrition/

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3656401/

Seri77 me too

Big fat fucking arse. I wrote a post and the ipad lost it. At least it wasn't a Crabby-super-waffle.

The gist of it was...

Notso am thrilled to think that upping water intake might rehydrate my withing cleavage (previously my pride and joy).

Keepon yes planning is the key, otherwise I find myself pacing the kitchen disconsolately, looking for trouble. Don't be afraid to make yourself a batch of something low carb if you can't find suitable meals for the whole family.

Grumpy oh how I'd love to be wise and yoda-like (though I do bear a passing resemblance first thing in the morning)...

Durham I'd probably try sitting on the vibrostep, personally.

Sarah very perceptive point about friends/family being thereatened by a change in the status quo. I think people can get quite discomfited when we start to effect real change in our lives.

I have had a Very Bad Day. I've been a Big Fat Sugary Carby Twat. Have felt ill all day and very tearful so fell into a bucket of carbs. I know it doesn't help, just makes me feel worse. I've always been an emotional eater, I need to get a grip.

Haven't caught up on the thread as I feel very ashamed of myself and totes emosh as DD1 would put it.

Will be back tomorrow to see you all and catch up. So much for my resolve! :(

Waaaahhhh I've not just let myself down, I've let you ALL down.

Well I did an experimental chicken 'pie' earlier, and although it needs a bit of finessing, it was bloody lovely. I had leftover roast chicken and fancied a chicken and mushroom pie in a white sauce, but not cheesy. I decided to gently sauté leeks until tender, then steam cauliflower in with it, adding enough chicken stock to simmer it. When all tender I blitzed it with the stick blender, adding more stock until it was a thick soup/sauce texture. Salt, pepper and nutmeg in it, and that was the sauce for the chicken and mushroom mix (shrooms diced and cooked gently for ages in butter, garlic and thyme). Meanwhile I made a celeriac dolphin pose by thinly slicing and layering celeriac, nutmeg and garlic and pouring cream over each layer and baking for about 45 mins. I then put the mixture into a baking dish, transferred the dolphin pose onto the top of the filling and baked a little longer. Need to work out a better way of doing that but bloody hell it was lush!

Food today
B/L - courgette and tomatoes with pesto
S - olives
D - chicken pie
2 cups tea, >3L water

Oh Nell. Tomorrow's a new day. Stop sabotaging yourself!

Ooh Crabby that sounds amazing - will you put it on the blog?

I am feeling better, even managed a little walk to the shops this afternoon, but had the biggest craving for a treat and ended up with an Atkins 'chocolate' bar from Boots - utterly not worth it, made me feel sick and I now have a very upset stomach! Other than that:

B - fried lardons and scrambled egg
S - stupid Atkins bar and snack pack of mini sausages from M&S
D - pork chop, cauliflower cheese and Savoy cabbage cooked in garlic butter plus 2 squares of dark choc after

Not enough water today...

Goodness me, you lot like to talk

Have caught up at last.

The only advice I can give you if you have friends/family who are trying to undermine and sabotage your efforts is to make sure that you have done enough reading to convince yourself - and also so that you can trot out a few pertinent facts about low carbing and/or the perils of a high carb diet.

Given that there's a lot in the media at the moment about the dangers of sugar, perhaps you could drop into the conversation that as far as the body is concerned, carbohydrate is sugar, in terms of the insulin release that it provokes.

Have had a couple of really busy days, and was up in Leeds all yesterday, so not much opportunity to really post.

But despite that, food choices have been pretty good. Thank goodness for Pret a Manger being available at railway stations now! Two different salads yesterday - one for lunch on the train up to Leeds and one for dinner on the train back.

just a quick shit shout for now

durham at my old very posh gym girls/women used to use them to ahem... 'pleasure themselves' under the very thin guise of 'toning up the inner thigh area' at first we thought we were being silly, but time after time I saw peoples jizz faces - I left the gym...

food today dairy free peeps (think I did breakfast upthread)

L - tuna in sunflower oil heated in the wok with butter splash of soy, salt pepper and a good handful of curly kale

D - Lamb and mutton mince fried with garlic/shallots/fresh herbs/s+p/garam masala and a handful of kale plus broccoli steamed with butter on

S - celery stick swiped through dps leftover blob of chilli tuna mayo/ kalamata and green olives

5l water

some rank teas today - fennel x2 (bleaurgh) and a couple of peppermint teas

thanks pisco and the other people upthread for all the amazing kind things you've said about how wanky my friends behaviour has been

I think one of them has got the message and the other one hated it when I gave up smoking, so it's all about her really - even though in many other areas she is excellent, she can't bear it when I change. Spotlights her failings I guess - which is stupid, as I love her as a carb eating smoker anyway!! I'm just not going to discuss it with anyone (still!!) I'm rubbish at arguing and can't remember the facts under pressure. I'm just stubborn and resolute. Oh and I'm quietly going to the doctors and having a massive health check with bloods and everything so that will shut them up if they bring it up again.

crabby! you must have been to my gym!!

Talking of diuretic veg, celery is definitely a diuretic. So if anyone needs a visit from the whoosh fairy, perhaps have a couple of sticks of celery? They're very nice when filled with Boursin, or probably any other cream cheese of your choice. My Mum used to use Dairylea (blech now!) and dust with paprika - this was a very swish appetiser in the 70s, you know!

Chester - don't be a muffin! Of course I don't think you are a twat and nor was I offended, I was simply trying to point out that you are actually doing well and it's only your mind trying to find excuses for not low carbing that is making you think otherwise I was a total carb monster over Christmas so I was hoping I would have a glycogen dump when I started back - not an ounce. I am in ketosis, I am drinking lots of water, I'm not cheating in any way, I even gave up my latte's this time... nada??? so....

Whoever has kidnapped the Woosh Fairy - could you please let her go and make sure she comes to me or I may not be responsible for my actions

I have people coming to stay (for several months) soon, I am going to find it very very hard to 'justify' this 'WOE' if I am not losing any weight :(

I add butter to anything that stands still long enough and olive oil to everything I can. I tried eating more cream, but that just made me feel really sluggish (or perhaphs it was just co-incidental? I'll try again in a few days). I am not eating too much protein (basically impossible as a low carb, non egg eating, vegetarian!!). I am eating as little carb as I can whilst having to rely on vegetables to 'feed myself' and I alternate between eating cheese and not - but I find it hard to do this woe as a 'non egg eating vegetarian who doesn't eat cheese - and is trying not to mainline almonds' ... you start to feel 'food free'.

Thank you for all of your kind thoughts and good wishes though :) x

I have some celery - might go and raid the fridge

Blah, I can barely eat it in the daytime smothered in peanut butter the thought of it at 2.30am is not at all appealing

Chipping - you will have to tell them that you are pre-diabetic, and this is a Keto diet, specifically designed to deal with diabetes. Don't mention one word about your weight.

Come on Nell, back on the wagon with you.

Day two of no dairy, stayed the same this morning but that's fine. Plan is lots of fat:

B: boiled eggs mashed with chunk of butter
L: hot chicken, bacon and avacado salad, all bits fried in lots of butter
Mid aft: BPC
D: celeriac hash from the recipe thread, orobably with a bit more butter thrown in for good measure

Going for three litres of water again.

DH has this morning lost a stone since Jan 1. He's pretty much at his goal now. Am proper proud of him as he struggles to stick with things, especially as he's not overweight as such and he's eaten hairibo, porridge, chocolate and lots of other banned bits.

Woohoo I'm back to losing! 2lb today, which makes me 12lb in a month as I started 3rd Jan. very pleased, and i started couch to 5k last night too.

C'mon losers!!