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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 2 - Low Carb Bootcamp Jan 2014

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BIWI · 19/01/2014 21:03

Wow! So much nattering that we've filled up the thread before the end of the week!

Here's the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for tomorrow morning.

And, for the Weight Tracker I'm not quite sure what happens with this link I think that you will be asked to enter your weight for this week and then you will see your individual graph.

I hope you all had a good week last week, and very good luck for week 2.

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Piscivorus · 26/01/2014 17:28

I used to get the Tyrrells ones from our local Sainsburys but the have just had a refit so not sure if they are still stocked. I think Tesco Extra have them too.
Still wish we had a local Waitrose though :(

BIWI · 26/01/2014 17:28

That piece is really interesting, Mae - I'm going to c+p a bit of it:

"Sugar promotes inflammation in your tissues, leading to fascial and muscular pain.

All types of tissue, and particularly the fascia, are susceptible to glycation, a pathological process that occurs when there are high levels of sugar in the blood, above what is needed for metabolism. The excess sugar has nowhere to go, so it attaches to a protein molecule, destroying the protein’s normal structure and making it very stiff. The body sees the new, combined molecule as a foreign object and creates an inflammatory response to get rid of it.

This inflammatory response occurs all over the body. You may not notice that your fascia has gotten stiffer. But if you get a massage and it hurts wherever the therapist touches you, you know that your entire body is inflamed.

If you have this kind of overall low-level inflammation under normal circumstances, imagine what happens when you’re injured. Right—the pain is worse. If you eat a lot of sugar, an injured shoulder will be more painful and have less range of motion than if you didn’t.

Let’s make it clear what “sugar” is. It’s not just the white stuff you put in coffee. It’s not even just soft drinks, candy, and cake. Sugar as you don’t know it is any form of carbohydrate. That means bread, pasta, whole grains, potatoes—and especially fruit, which seems to cause about 10 times as much glycation as sugar from other sources.

All the carbohydrates you eat are converted into glucose, which goes into your bloodstream to fuel your body. However, some carbohydrates put more glucose in your blood than others. When that happens, you get a glucose spike, and more of it goes into glycation instead of being used as fuel.

If you have pain right now, try following Ming’s principle: minimize all carbs, and for those you do eat, avoid the simple ones like table sugar and white bread. Stick to carbs that are more slowly absorbed: eat whole grains like brown rice instead of bread, whole grain bread over white bread.

“I always ask my patients about their diet,” says Ming, “and 90 percent eat a high-carb diet—which in my definition means having carbs every time you eat. Based on my experience, it’s safe to say that a hi-carb diet will make your pain worse than it has to be. My patients come in with aches and pains all over. They get off sugar—which is to say, carbs—and the pain goes away. Then they go back to eating sugar, and the pain returns.”

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AthelstaneTheUnready · 26/01/2014 17:30

Mae, I agree with you! I used to get pain in my middle knuckles (is that a real description?) after a day gardening - I originally thought it was cold/damp/age etc etc, but I gave up sugar for 4 or 5 months last Summer and it pretty much stopped within a week.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 26/01/2014 17:30

x-posted, sorry!

AthelstaneTheUnready · 26/01/2014 17:32

Pseudo, I made a mixed swede and potato mash (the mixed dolphin pose was amazing, btw) - I was a bit surprised it didn't gloop together as well as potato used to, but it is VERY nice.

AthelstaneTheUnready · 26/01/2014 17:37

Doh, not potato, mixed swede and celeriac.

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thenightsky · 26/01/2014 17:41

BIWI that is very interesting. My mum has always claimed the arthritic pain in her feet is 10 times worse if she eats oranges!

BIWI · 26/01/2014 17:54

Yes, I've heard that about citrus - I always assumed it was something to do with being too acidic. Now I'm wondering if it's the sugar!

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GermanGirlinLDN · 26/01/2014 18:20

Thumbwitch You are not the only one who isn't sure about kale crips. I tried them last week and only finished the bag because they cost me 1.50 quid and I was hungry. I am glad Pret has other LC options (I like their two eggs and spinach pot).

Week three is starting tomorrow. Smile I feel a little bit better now and a bit more optimistic for the next weeks. Apart from the weekend my week has been awful. I was in a terrible mood. LC bootcamp is a bit harder for me as I do the Paleo WOE and it cuts out dairy products too.

I can't believe we have lost 497lbs all together so far. That's incredible and it makes me motivated. I know that I probably haven't lost any weight this week, I had 0.3kg less this morning so maybe maybe I manage one lbs weight loss over night.

trashcanjunkie · 26/01/2014 18:25

Right, ok here goes -
this is from last week, but I'll keep going with listing from now on.

Daily I'm drinking 2 x 1.5 litres of evian plus several large mugs of peppermint tea and nothing else.

Friday

B - Baked salmon with a fifty pence sized blob of hellmans mayo

L - 2 x Giant prawns cooked in butter with 2 baked field mushrooms and a small amount of goats cheese melted inside

D - Roast chicken with lemon and garlic skin, courgette dauphinouse, four stems sprouting broccoli, small amount of fine green beans

yesterday -

B - Large baked field mushroom with butter in it and a small amount of goats cheese (that is the first cheese I've eaten this week, cos I did eat cheese last week and thought that may have stalled me) plus two eggs in a cup with butter and a small dollop of hellmans mayo (who sells delois?)

L - 100% angus beef burger, small blob of coleslaw, small hand full of iceberg lettuce, a quarter of a salad tomato

D - (this was at a friends dinner party) Starter - parma ham, small handful of rocket and baby spinach leaves, avocado, mozzarella (again just a few pieces) Mains - Lamb chops in herb and garlic marinade, and a few more leaves Dessert - I did eat a fifty pence sized piece of each cheese (so about four pieces total)

today

B - beef casserole (beef, button mushrooms, cream, garlic, s+p) sprinkling of parmesan

L - Baked ham, courgette dauphinoise, pak choi stir fried in butter.

I weighed myself on Thursday, having kept off cheese and cream since Sunday, when I weighed 17.3 and on Thursday I was tipping 18!

My only other possible thing is that I'm retaining fluid. I don't have periods due to a hysterectomy but I still have a cycle (as in I ovulate) and I have no way of keeping track of that, but other than that I am flummoxed.

On the up side, my hunger is under control, I'm finding it easy to do, my portion size has dropped. I feel so crap about the weight side of things though.

BIWI · 26/01/2014 18:36

Broadly speaking your meals look good, but I suspect you're not eating enough fat. And it sounds like you're a bit fat phobic, based on the language you have been using to describe it!

e.g.'fifty pence sized', 'small blob', 'small amount of...'

And you're baking/roasting, rather than frying, which would also help get your fat intake up.

The protein choices you have been making are also relatively low fat ones from what I can see.

And it also sounds like you're not eating much - lots of small handfuls of things! A quarter of a tomato?! This isn't a way of eating that is about deprivation.

If you think you're retaining fluid, then you need to up your water.

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daisychicken · 26/01/2014 18:41

That's really interesting about the sugar BIWI I've heard about citrus and tomatoes/ nightshade veg with arthritis as well. If it's the sugar then surely other sweet food would cause problems or perhaps the pain is just overall and pain from individual foods are kind of merged in with overall pain....?

German girl where did you find kale crisps to buy?

Suzymoo9 · 26/01/2014 18:42

BIWI the post above which links inflammatory pain with high carb diets is really interestin - I will post it to my mum who is really suffering at the mo and has started low carbing.
Can you let me know where it's from?

Many thanks - I can't say enough how helpful this thread is even though I don't post so often.

trashcanjunkie · 26/01/2014 19:01

I'm worried about the sugar content in the hellmans, hence the small blob use Grin am hunting for deloius, but I'm happy to up the fat!

Am laughing at my 'quarter of tomato' - we were in a cafe and I was panicking that they were too carby.

I am feeling full most of the day, bar mornings before breakfast, and I'm drinking 4 plus litres of liquids daily, but I'll up food intake and liquids.

Belly pork next week I think!

Thanks everybody, I'll keep posting my grub Smile

Suzymoo9 · 26/01/2014 19:02

OK I found the link further up from MaeMobley - thanks Mae, really useful info.

teaandthorazine · 26/01/2014 19:03

Evening all! Just back from a weekend in Glasgow with my beloved, during which I was an excessively carby twat. All sorts of unbelievably shite food has passed my lips (mainly manufactured by Tunnocks ltd) plus copious amounts of BEER.

However, I feel ok about it, I knew it was going to happen and tomorrow I will be getting straight back on the wagon. If anything, the fact that I've ended up feeling bloated and crappy has strengthened my LC resolve, but sometimes life gets in the way, right?

Hope everyone has had a good weekend, off to catch up on the rest of the thread now.

EwanHoozami · 26/01/2014 19:03

GermanGirl I wonder what 497lb of our combined lost fat looks like Shock

I'm retaining water like nobody's business due to ghastly period. I've drunk nearly 4l today, too.

I won't be sad when the weird ketosis-mouth thing goes away (and I know it does when my body re-adapts) I feel like I'm chewing on a wad of nicotine gum all the time.

Other than that all is well and my Hungarian chicken thingy is smelling amazing.

GermanGirlinLDN · 26/01/2014 19:06

Daisychicken

Pret A Manger. 25g cost 1.50 and have 7.7g carbs per pack.

GermanGirlinLDN · 26/01/2014 19:09

EwanHoozami Well, it is roughly three times my weight. So it must be a lot. Let's see how much we all lost in Week Two. :D

Nux · 26/01/2014 19:17

daisy they sell them at Sainsburys too if that's easier for you?

daisychicken · 26/01/2014 19:22

Don't have a pret a manger nearby but I'll ask DH to nip to sainsburys next time he's nearby

MrsPnut · 26/01/2014 19:25

Trashcan waitrose! sainsbury's and bigger tesco's sell delouis fils mayo.

MrsPnut · 26/01/2014 19:26

Biwi I had both flavours of those pork crackling this weekend and they were delicious. I have added lots of packs to next weeks shopping.

teaandthorazine · 26/01/2014 19:34

Really interesting about the sugar and inflammation, btw. I've felt all weekend as if I've been in a fight (I'm pretty sure I haven't Grin), everything feels tender and sore. Is that sugar overdose or just a really bad hangover?

So looking forward to getting back to eating clean. I think I will probably do strict Bootcamp during the week and Light at the weekend. Although dp and I did talk at the weekend about giving up drinking at home completely, both for health and financial reasons, so I might just carry on with proper Bootcamp until I have a reason not to! Actually can't wait to get back to eating clean.