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The Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave (expats)... All Those in the US!

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UnderRated · 15/07/2008 04:29

I just finished the old thread by accident

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SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 11/08/2008 02:54

I am never allowed DS at weekends without a huge fight. And I fought for this and lost. Yet now I am expected to give up 2 weekdays with Dinner. I am very cross about how this all works out. Grrrr. Will get over it and try to have a playdate for him during the week. The problem is that all his friends will be in preschool at different times so they won't all be able to come

Califrau · 11/08/2008 02:54

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SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 11/08/2008 03:07

Cali, that made me laugh. I think you are right. I will remember that every time he is being stupid and stubborn.

ZamMummy · 13/08/2008 14:04

Sorry to crash your thread, guys. But I have a wealth of questions for you about Washington (DC not state).
Right now we (that's DH, me , DS1 (2.2) & DS2(3mo)) live in Zambia, but due to the usual cock-ups may have to leave a lot sooner than we thought, ie in less than 3 months time! A possible contract for DH in DC is on the cards - anyone know anything about this might/should work?? Could I work in the US? How much tax do you pay? What's the cost of living like? What's DC like to live in? Could DS1 go to kindergarten in an English international school (he does at mo and would be mighty p*ssed off to suddenly be at home all day) and what sort of money would you be looking at? If it happens what kind of relocation package should he be asking for? Would his UK £ salary be enough in US? Should he be paid in £ or USD?
How the hell do I find any of this out?

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 13/08/2008 15:40

Hello Zam

I've been to DC for a few days so am not much help on the specifics of living there.

Your DH's company will need to organise a visa. Depending on the type, you may or may not be able to work. Most people come on H or L visa's and spouses cannot work.

Tax varies from state to state but I would expect to pay about 30%. Remember to budget for health insurance too.

COst of living, I think is expensive but I am in the minority. I think it evens out overall - staples like bread and milk are more expensive but petrol is cheaper than the UK.

There is a British International School in DC - Google British Schools of America. You could also look at local preschools.

Think carefully about where to live - DC is notorious for guns and gang-related crime. I think it is very segregated (as is much of the US) and you need to make sure you pick the right neighbourhood.

We didn't get a relocation package, only ex's salary of about $32,000 initially and they paid for flights.

I got a book called Living and Working in the USA which answered all of your questions - it was my bible when we were moving.

dooneygirl · 13/08/2008 21:03

I could not agree more with really researching where you live. I have been to most big cities in the U. S., and some very unsavory parts of NYC, LA, New Orleans, etc, and have never been more uncomfortable then when we (accidentally) ventured into a not-so-safe part of DC. I think that has been the only time I've been flat-out scared of my surroundings. I wasn't even comfortable when we were in the car, and not just walking sometimes.

Housing is quite expensive in the area, so you'll really want to make sure your DH is getting a salary that you can afford housing. It isn't just the posh areas that are expensive, it is the average-but-safe areas, too. Though it isn't as bad as California or NYC, it is definitely something to keep in mind.

That being said, there are really lovely areas in the city, and we felt very safe and comfortable walking them at all hours of the day. Many of the suburbs are lovely, too, and I especially loved Virginia right across the river. I wish we had had more time to explore that area, it was beautiful, quaint, and people were so friendly.

I seem to remember when we were there, that the people who lived there complained a lot about how high the taxes were in the area, and a quick Google seems to back up that memory. It looks like taxes are a lot less in Virginia than Maryland and DC. A lot of things that aren't just basics, like going out to eat, is taxed at a much higher rate than the sales tax.

Can't say much about the rest, I'm American, not an expat.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 14/08/2008 01:12

Georgetown is a nice area. But probably $$$ too.

dooneygirl · 14/08/2008 01:22

Ok, one I need opinions on.

You know how I've been going on about going to the fair for Colin's birthday, and how I offered him parties and such, but all he wants to do is go with Grandma and Grandpa? Well, now Grandma isn't coming. Something about one of them needs to be home because they got around to buying a new house, and they're worried about the permit people calling.

I know he's going to be really upset. I said something about Grandpa coming, and he said "You forgot Grandma. She TOLD me she was coming for my birthday." (She did, I heard it) Do we tell him now, or wait until Grandpa shows up and hope him coming will make it easier? (It won't, just wishful thinking)

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 14/08/2008 02:11

Tricky one

I'd probably warn him in advance and promise him a special activity w/ grandma another time and go on and on about how special it will be with Grandpa and all the cool things you'll do at the fair. Poor thing. He sounds so disappointed.

dooneygirl · 14/08/2008 02:33

I'm ASSUMING he will be disappointed. This is one of those things where you know you're going to be right, though.

He's already sad because Grandpa will be going home in the early morning of his birthday, and won't be staying for it.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 14/08/2008 02:58

Poor thing. I think you have to trust your instincts - you know he'll be upset. He's very young to learn about disappointment on birthdays

dooneygirl · 14/08/2008 03:07

Yes, but my instinct is to leave it up to when Grandpa comes so he can see how upset Colin is, because they're not actually taking part in the physical process of building the house, and I think they could give the permit people a cell phone in case of anything, and since they're coming Friday and leaving 1st thing Monday morning, they'd really only be losing a day if there is a problem, or who even knows if the permit people get the paperwork looked at that quickly, and maybe if there was a problem it could be taken care of over the phone, anyway.

This is why I can't trust my instinct. I tend to freak out about birthdays for the kids since we don't do big, over the top parties like everyone else we know, because I think that is a bit much for this age, and because they're not going to get any mention or anything of birthdays from my family.

Maybe we should just throw a party in Chicago for children who are getting disappointments on their birthday for one reason or another.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 14/08/2008 03:27

Yes, We'll party in Chicago! All these poor disappointed kids

How old wil DS be? I think DD & Dinner are the same age, aren't they? (Turning 3)

dooneygirl · 14/08/2008 03:35

Colin will be 5.

You are correct. There can't be more than a month and a few days between her and Dinner, since she's at the end of August.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 14/08/2008 03:39

Dinner's is just after you leave Chicago (22nd) so they are really close.

alipiggie · 14/08/2008 05:14

Zam - it is very unlikely that you would be allowed to work if you are coming in on DH's visa. They have very strict regulations here. Does depend on the type of work visa he would get. Things you need to sort out: removal costs, 401K (pension) and MORE importantly Health Insurance for you all which covers dental and vision if you need glasses/lenses. There are plenty of Pre-schools in the USA - just find one you like trawl the internet and look. If you intend to drive you will need to re-take your driving licence you have "legally" only 90 drives to drive in the US on a foreign licence. Unless there's a reciprocal arrangement. Certainly not for Brits. As you've heard identify the neighborhood you want first and trawl around. Expat sites can be helpful. If it all goes through get someone to recommend you a good realtor who can help you find rental / purchase properties. Good luck. I'm now a precious Green Cad holder and have no intention of returning to the UK.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 14/08/2008 05:36

Alllliiiiiiiiiiiii

ZamMummy · 14/08/2008 20:09

Thank you SuperBunny, Dooney & Ali for your v helpful advice. Think it will all have been in vain for now though, looks like we're staying here for at least another year - phew! But will keep it all in mind as DC could be an option later on....

dooneygirl · 15/08/2008 03:08

My bad. He didn't cry when Grandpa got here. He just asks every hour why Grandma didn't come.

They're all playing outside now. I don't go out there willingly when it is over 100. Off to the fair in the 104 weather tomorrow. Big fun. Good news is the rest of the weekend we will be going shopping, because FIL hasn't replaced anything of his yet. So we will be looking for boring stuff like computers, but will have to look for clothes, too. DH says for all of us. Those of us with more than 4 days worth of clothes don't get to buy lots and lots, though.

Califrau · 15/08/2008 03:31

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SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 15/08/2008 04:01

Oh Dooney

But exciting about the shopping. Probably less exciting when you have to go because you only have a few days worth of clothing. How are your inlaws?

Those sprinklers look fab. We were at the beach today and the waves almost knocked DS over. I always find it wierd seeing such big waves on a lake.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 16/08/2008 02:38

I just made Almond Butter! I am sure no-one will be excited but I needed to share. I am feeling all domestic tonight. Am going to spend the weekend doing my UK tax forms and cooking beans! What fun

dooneygirl · 16/08/2008 03:03

Don't forget freezing them.

I'm impressed with the almond butter.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 16/08/2008 03:11

Yes yes, freezing too. Which reminds me, I need some tupperware or something.

Almond butter so easy, no idea why I haven't done it before. Much cheaper than buying it ready made and only took a couple of mins to make.

SuperBunnyisUnderRated · 17/08/2008 04:09

Ooo, I just had a lovely night out. All by myself! I went to a free concert downtown - it was Opera Choruses and was wonderful. Outdoors, on the lawn, fullmoon and fabulous music. I love this city

I came home and am scoffing a nice bowl of homemade spinach and chick pea curry (from my bean boiling fest this afternoon)

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