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Pancreatic and liver cancer

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WilsonMilson · 17/05/2023 22:49

Diagnosed today. I can’t believe it. I thought I had gallstones. The liver tumour is already 7cm, I can’t even remember what the pancreatic one was, it’s on the head of the pancreas. They did more CT scans to see further spread but I don’t have those results yet.
I just am in a blur.
My pain has been getting really bad the last few days and I’m worried this is it. I will have a meeting probably next week to discuss the plan for treatment -if any.

I’m not ready. I’m 45. I have a son and a lovely husband. I have elderly parents.

I’ve gone into hyper organisation mode. It’s madness really, but tonight I bought birthday cards for my son, husband and mum for the next 4 years. I’ve been transferring money to different accounts to make it more accessible. I’ve emailed my son’s school, I’ve started writing to do lists.

My mum is flying in on Friday and will stay with me. I’m just so devastated and so sorry for my poor son and husband. I cannot believe this.

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WilsonMilson · 22/06/2023 14:23

Hello everyone, I hoped to be back sooner with an update, but have had a couple of really bad days symptom wise and couldn’t face it.

Have things a bit more under control today as yesterday was told to up the steroids and am now on a fairly hefty dose of codeine along with the pregabalin. It’s been the liver pain mainly, my abdomen is swollen (thankfully not ascites) and bloated with the tumour and associated inflammation, and I’m having what can best be described as liver spasms which are quite breathtakingly awful and can come on with the slightest movement. I can’t speak at all when it’s happening and feels like someone has grabbed my liver and squeezing very tight. The exhaustion has been profound and now feeling quite nauseous a lot which is unpleasant as I really don’t fancy anything to eat, but forcing myself. I think the codeine is responsible for the queasiness and I’m a bit spaced out and sleepy, but it does help a bit with the pain, so it’s a kind of catch 22. Has totally bunged me up though, so now also on laxatives. So all in all, not much fun being had right now.

Meeting went ok on Tuesday, I’d already had the PET scan results so it wasn’t new information and we didn’t discuss prognosis at all thankfully, it was all quite positive and about next steps and treatment, so that was good as I was worried it would be really negative. I just do not want to know timelines, I don’t think that’s helpful for me personally, I didn’t have to say that I didn’t want to know, but I will say if I have to.

So, I am having a liver biopsy on Monday at 12pm and from there the doors open to treatment. So we are slowly getting there. Worried about biopsy pain given that I’m already in a bad place with pain, but needs must as we need to know exactly what the tumour is. It’s a day surgery and all being well I should get out in the evening after 6 hours of monitoring to make sure there is not bleeding.

DH has been incredibly good at exploring every single option, and we are having a video consultation on July 3 with a Professor Bridgewater in London who is apparently the top guy for this sort of cancer in the UK. He can then advise us on treatment plan, and if there is any way it can be started quicker, or other immunotherapy drugs that can also be used then we can go to London and get treatment there privately hopefully through our Bupa policy. That comes with it’s own logistical problems, although I have a very kind friend in London who has said that we are very welcome to stay with her. I would rather not travel, apart from anything else I don’t feel well enough to, but I think it will be really helpful to get this man’s input as he comes very highly recommended, and if it turns out that I can get better/faster treatment in London, then of course I will force myself to go.

Home life has been a little more fraught as everyone’s been worried about my apparent decline in the last couple of days, but hopefully with the med changes things will rally a bit - DH has now printed out a schedule of my meds and timings, I think it helps him to feel proactive. I do feel better than I did this time yesterday, although I do also feel like I’m slightly on another planet and not really with it at all, very odd feeling indeed.

Haven't been anywhere apart from the hospital on Tuesday, haven’t honestly felt like it. I did make an apple crumble at the weekend though, so not entirely useless - although had to sit down to peel the apples and make the crumble, but nevertheless, made it. To those who asked about cake - no I haven’t yet had any as I don’t really want shop bought. I may make a Victoria sponge at some point if I can summon the energy, I figure I might as well have what I fancy within reason. The crumble was very nice and is my ds’s favourite.

Sunny here today so I’m going to sit outside on a comfy chair and try to read my book for a while. I can’t handle anything too involved, so I’m reading a lighthearted Katie Fforde book.

Thank you to everyone who is checking in on me and sending good wishes. I read them all and appreciate every one. I’m still praying all the time and have lots of people praying for me, some at church and at my friend’s church, and some close friends and family who know. Still haven’t told my wider circle yet and can’t really face it, maybe will once I start treatment. I guess if I’m going to be bald then it will be a bit obvious, especially as my hair has always been my thing - it’s long and blonde but honestly being bald is the absolute last of my worries right now, I would be happily hair free if it gave me a chance to live!

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Unicorn34 · 22/06/2023 14:37

Hello WilsonMilson - I didn't want to read and run as I have been doing since your thread began. I have been (like I expect many others) following your thread with heartfelt hope and wishes for you to begin feeling better. I truly hope your treatment begins soon and that you can begin to think of the future again, it sounds as though you have the most amazing immediate family around you and I am relieved that you do. I will continue to follow and, although not religious myself, will light one of my "special candles" in the garden for you and say a few words. Keep going - make that sponge cake - hopefully laughing isn't too painful. Thinking of you x

waterlego · 22/06/2023 14:42

Thank you the update @WilsonMilson. Please don’t ever feel that you ‘should’ or need to update us though. You have bigger fish to fry right now and although we will continue to think of you and hope the best for you, you don’t owe us any updates at all.

I’m sorry to hear about all the pain you’re in. It sounds like such a lot to bear. I’m glad you have more pain relief now, even though it is making you feel a bit spacey and sadly causing constipation too. That’s the problem with medicines isn’t it? Some of them are amazing in what they can do for us, but almost all of them will create other symptoms or issues which can then need further meds to deal with.

I’m glad Tuesday’s meeting felt quite positive and that there have not yet been conversations about the outlook, if those are not conversations you want to have just yet (understandably). I’m glad you are consulting an expert too- Prof Bridgewater sounds like someone who will be able to give you the very best advice.

Will be thinking of you on Monday as you go for the biopsy and I hope they pull out all the stops to make the experience as comfortable as possible for you. In the meantime, I hope you can enjoy a bit of your book in the sunshine. Sending best wishes and hope to you. 💐

SarahSmith2023 · 22/06/2023 15:05

Hi ((((HUG))))

it's lovely to hear from you & get your updates!! However, you really mustn't feel it's a chore that needs doing, there are enough of those already. Write if it helps you & when you want to xx

I'm glad your meeting was quite positive Tuesday,

The London bloke sounds great, it's worth seeing how things go with him. You never know, there might be a way around having to go to London too often or having to stay there too long 🤞🏼🤞🏼

crumble sounds good!! 😋

I hope you've had a lovely sit in the garden with your book!!

Best wishes for Monday. Make sure you tell them you're already in pain & ensure they don't rush to do it until the local has had a proper amount of time to work!

💐

adriftabroad · 22/06/2023 15:20

Sending up a prayer from a church in Valencia x
I am so glad you are seeing Prof Bridgewater. Well done for the crumble... sounds lovely.

In my thoughts.

BTMadmummy · 22/06/2023 15:34

WilsonMilson · 19/05/2023 09:37

Thank you. I’m in Northern Ireland, just outside Belfast.

Hi @WilsonMilson, what hospital are you with? I had a cancer diagnosis end of Sept last year and I was at the Ulster in Dundonald.

If you have to go to London, don’t worry, it sounds scarier than it is. I had to go to Basingstoke in February as my cancer was a rare type and they took amazing care of me and DH

I’m sorry you are going through this. If you want a local ear to bend just send me a DM

NuttellaAndPuppyLover · 22/06/2023 15:41

Hello lovely Wilson. Thanks for the update.

Re prayers - I'm catholic and there is what we call a novena (prayers over 9 days) specifically for cancer patients. The link is here:

www.praymorenovenas.com/st-peregrine-novena

When I was sick, I prayed that over and over and also had my friends and family praying for me. Most of them are not even catholic but it helped them feel they were doing something. If my link doesn't work, just google "novena for cancer patients" in case you want to give it a go. All the best x

Eurodiva · 22/06/2023 15:59

I think of you every day and I am glad you are getting closer to a plan I send you my sincerest good wishes .I hope you get to have your Victoria Sandwich soon .Maybe the boys could make one under your close supervision 😊Xx

Cactusali · 22/06/2023 16:23

Lapsed Catholic here. I’ll be joining in the Novena. In awe of your bravery and you managing to hang onto your sense of humour.

Iggi999 · 22/06/2023 17:25

Sending you every good wish x

Crikeyalmighty · 22/06/2023 19:33

I think of you every day too lovely x I'm not religious but will light a candle

itstimeforme · 22/06/2023 21:18

You have been in my thoughts a lot. I hope that the pain is brought under control soon and that the biopsy goes smoothly x

petuniasandpetals · 22/06/2023 21:34

Thank you for the update. I think you are incredibly brave and and it's amazing to hear your voice come through so clearly.
Keep on keeping on x

Run4it2 · 23/06/2023 01:57

Sending love and thoughts to you and your family

catwithflowers · 23/06/2023 08:00

Hope you had a better night, Wilson, and that the pain is more manageable. Your apple crumble sounds delicious!

Another one thinking of you every day and praying for a miracle ♥️.

WilsonMilson · 23/06/2023 13:32

Oh guys, things have gone a bit wrong today. Noticed yesterday my pee was darker than usual and this morning it was really dark, then I had (sorry for the tmi) and extremely weird stool, it was pale grey, putty colour. Called my CNS and I’ve been admitted to hospital as they wonder if there is a bile duct blockage. I’m not yellow yet, but honesty I feel like complete shit. My white cell count is now 40 (range I think is 3-10) so they also wonder about infection so may be getting IV antibiotics. So far just had more bloods done and am sitting (very uncomfortably) waiting to see what’s going to happen next. I don’t have a bed yet.

I’m devastated to be in hospital, even though I know I need to be. I’m bloody terrified of dying here, and I just want to be in the relative comfort of my own bed at home with my family. DH is with me.

Thank you to who sent the Novena for cancer patients, I’m not Catholic but I don’t think that really matters and I’ve been praying to St Peregrine and recited day one. Thanks to all who are still praying and sending good wishes. I don’t know if it makes a difference if you know my real name - I kind of don’t care about anonymity anymore. My name is Pamela.

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Winterisalmostover · 23/06/2023 13:36

Pamela, that's exactly how I was with a bile duct blockage. It's truly horrible. I did go yellow until it was unblocked. I actually felt that I was going to die any minute, but once the blockage was removed I felt instantly a ton better. If it is a blockage, I hope that they will act quickly. They did with me.

WilsonMilson · 23/06/2023 13:48

Winterisalmostover · 23/06/2023 13:36

Pamela, that's exactly how I was with a bile duct blockage. It's truly horrible. I did go yellow until it was unblocked. I actually felt that I was going to die any minute, but once the blockage was removed I felt instantly a ton better. If it is a blockage, I hope that they will act quickly. They did with me.

Thank you, did they put a stent in to relieve the blockage? I’m not sure what they are going to do with me yet.

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ticktock19 · 23/06/2023 13:52

Thinking of you Pamela and hoping the hospital can get this issue sorted as quickly as is possible for you so you can be back home again.

MarpleFan · 23/06/2023 13:53

Thinking of and praying for you, and your family, Pamela. Sending you so much love and strength. Xxxx

StampOnTheGround · 23/06/2023 13:54

Thinking of you Pamela, hope you have a quick stay in hospital and you're back home very soon x

adriftabroad · 23/06/2023 13:55

Pamela ❤

TheNinthLock · 23/06/2023 13:57

I have not posted much, but you are frequently in my thoughts Pamela xx

Iloveringos · 23/06/2023 14:01

Hi Pamela, hopefully they won't keep you hanging around for too long and get you sorted quickly, you're in the right place, fingers crossed you're seen very soon, much love ❤️

Crikeyalmighty · 23/06/2023 14:03

You are in the best place Pamela, I know it probably doesn't feel like it at the moment but they can react quickly to your issues there.

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