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Pancreatic and liver cancer

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WilsonMilson · 17/05/2023 22:49

Diagnosed today. I can’t believe it. I thought I had gallstones. The liver tumour is already 7cm, I can’t even remember what the pancreatic one was, it’s on the head of the pancreas. They did more CT scans to see further spread but I don’t have those results yet.
I just am in a blur.
My pain has been getting really bad the last few days and I’m worried this is it. I will have a meeting probably next week to discuss the plan for treatment -if any.

I’m not ready. I’m 45. I have a son and a lovely husband. I have elderly parents.

I’ve gone into hyper organisation mode. It’s madness really, but tonight I bought birthday cards for my son, husband and mum for the next 4 years. I’ve been transferring money to different accounts to make it more accessible. I’ve emailed my son’s school, I’ve started writing to do lists.

My mum is flying in on Friday and will stay with me. I’m just so devastated and so sorry for my poor son and husband. I cannot believe this.

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waterlego · 12/06/2023 15:11

Thinking of you today Wilson. 💐

mae2014 · 12/06/2023 18:34

Thinking of you Wilson ❤️ xxx

Screwedupworld · 12/06/2023 21:53

Thinking of you today Wilson.

SquirrelSoShiny · 13/06/2023 01:41

Still thinking about you @WilsonMilson x

lightlypoached · 13/06/2023 08:23

Hey @WilsonMilson how are you doing ?

The sun is shining today and flowers are starting to appear in abundance in the garden. Big fat bees are buzzing and there are flowers on my cucumber plants.

Hoping you get to have some time outside to appreciate the soothing beauty of nature 🌼

Glitterbiscuits · 13/06/2023 09:09

I'm another one checking in on you.

Thinking of you

WilsonMilson · 13/06/2023 11:55

Morning everyone, again thanks for the well wishes. Probably just a short one today as it’s been quite the 24 hours.

I had my PET scan yesterday morning and it went as well as these things can. Quite hard to lie on a bed for an hour while the radioactive glucose went through me, back pain not great, but got through it and tried to relax as I was meant to - I doubt anyone having a PET could ever truly relax. Lying on the machine with my arms above my head was a bit tortuous, but it was only about 15 mins and again got through it and finally got home about 11.45am and had some breakfast - have never eaten so much scrambled egg in my life!

Got my MRI results yesterday afternoon - really not good. It’s all quite technical, and I’d upload the report, but it has some personal info on it and I’m sure no one here is interested in the nitty gritty. Basically the main tumour has grown even since the CT scan (by just over 1cm) and there is a sub tumour and some satellites. Local lymph spread too. The main tumour is in 4a and 4b of liver with severe steatosis of traversing portal vein- not going to google that!!

The conclusion is that they think it’s a cholangiocarcinoma which is bile duct cancer, but there is still a query as to whether it might be an FL HCC which is a rare liver cancer. Who knew these things were so hard to discern! Either way it’s bad. In myself I knew that given how much worse I’m feeling compared to a few weeks ago. It’s hard seeing it in black and white though.

I saw the MRI report as it was contained within the GP referral letter we collected to take to the private liver specialist last night, Prof Taylor. He was an extremely nice and knowledgable man and did give us some hope, honestly it was just a relief to talk to someone face to face. He is part of the MDT team who will again be discussing me on Friday. He is not ruling out surgery because of my young age and general good health, although the lymph spread makes it a much more tricky proposal. He wonders whether they need a biopsy but doesn’t like doing that because of ‘seeding’, and thinks perhaps they could take a lymph node instead and test that, but it was all just up for discussion. He says no matter what that there will be chemo available for me, but can obviously make no promises about cure or anything like that.

DH took a lot of comfort from him, I guess I’m more cynical and thought perhaps he just didn’t want to tell me the worst, but DH got hope and he really needed that as we both felt utterly condemned after reading the report and seeing how much it had grown in just a couple of weeks. Keeping DH in hope is essential right now as when he loses it, it’s difficult to deal with. I get it, he’s in hell too.

Anyway, awful back and rib pain last night, feels like my whole rib cage is broken at times. Stomach area bothering me too this morning. Probably the emotional anguish of yesterday didn’t help as I’m sure pain increases with stress, barely slept a wink. Have moved a comfy chair from downstairs to the bedroom so I can sit on it during the night if lying is too hard- seemed like a good idea but I’m not sure I like it though, feels very ‘patient’ like.

Very emotional this morning after the school run - wouldn’t let DS see me in total bits. Cried for at least a hour, proper sobs, but trying to pull myself together now and face this shit. Drove my DS to school this morning for first time in weeks as DH had a teams call, was a bit of an effort and traffic was awful, but managed and it’s an automatic so no real effort physically. Need to sort out what’s happening daily though, DH will need to juggle. DS is learning to drive so hopefully he will be able to do it himself soon. He had his interview for Head Boy yesterday, said it went well and there were 5 other candidates. He will hear tomorrow if he’s been selected.

So my plan for the rest of the day is to pull myself together and sort out my tear stained face. I’m still wearing make up every day, not a full face, but just so I don’t look totally ghoulish. It helps me mentally I think. Still doing my nails too - I can’t let everything slip! Missing the distraction of my work a bit, but don’t have the energy or concentration to deal with clients, I’m extremely lucky that I can stop for now and it doesn’t drastically affect our finances.

Hoping I can get on top of this pain again today so that I can function and get a grip of myself. Prof Taylor is going to call me himself at 5pm on Friday to let me know what was decided at the MDT meeting. I’m so glad we saw him privately as I do feel more in the loop and he knows my case better now, he is also pushing for the PET results to be available for the MDT meeting. So, bad news but always hope. Always hope. Keeping faith, keeping strong, having wobbles but will keep putting one foot in front of the other.

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Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 13/06/2023 12:23

Hi @WilsonMilson , thank you for updating us all. So many of is are thinking of you and willing there to be good news. I'm glad things are moving now in terms of getting the required info to make a plan. Being in limbo recently must be awful for you.

It sounds much more likely that you will indeed be kept in the loop now, I'm glad you have seen Prof Taylor. I don't know anything about liver cancer but sincerely hope that the MDT will come up with a plan that gives you plenty of hope.

That's great that your son's interview went well. I hope he gets the position of Head Boy.

Sorry if I missed it but are you seeing a pain management team at all?

waterlego · 13/06/2023 12:24

Ah shit @WilsonMilson, quite the 24 hours you’ve had. My goodness. That’s a lot to take in. I have no medical knowledge at all and struggle to understand scientific detail but clearly it is a very serious situation and as you say, you knew this yourself given how ill you feel and the noticeable decline.

I’m glad though that Prof Taylor seems like a very switched on professional. Great to have someone like this in charge of your care.

The fact that they are going to offer chemo and are not ruling out surgery sounds good to me, and I’m glad your OH has some hope, even if that is (understandably) difficult for you to have at the moment.

I think of you every day.

Yougavemesixtysummers · 13/06/2023 12:36

Hi Wilson, I am glad you have had your PET scan now and have your MRI results back so at least you have a better idea of what you are facing, and hopefully now the medical team can get the ball rolling with chemo and any other treatment you might be able to have.

Some suggestions for your DH, he could look into something like Hello Fresh to take some of the pressure of cooking every evening and if you can afford it outsourcing help such as getting a cleaner, just so there is less stress for your DH and yourself.
Good luck to your son, I hope he gets the role of Head Boy!

I have been thinking of you and your family and I am sending you positive vibes from across the ocean.

StartupRepair · 13/06/2023 12:41

Wilson I've been reading your thread but haven't posted before. Just saying I'm thinking of you and I'm so glad you have had a conversation with the specialist. Good luck to DS for head boy.

petuniasandpetals · 13/06/2023 12:45

Just wanted to drop by and send some positive vibes across the internet. I think you are a very strong and totally ballsy woman.
I know when I have had bad news I just collapsed ( did eventually manage to get through it - thankfully).
You are an amazing person and I wish you all the very best.x

SquirrelSoShiny · 13/06/2023 12:53

@WilsonMilson just sending you some love really. It sounds like you're in good hands now x

spuddel · 13/06/2023 12:55

You've been in my thoughts for weeks WilsonMilson. I cannot imagine the stress you are all under and have been keeping you and your family in my prayers. I came across a study that may or may not be of use to your doctors or yourself. I know medicine's bag of tricks is usually the tried and trusted avenues but I can't see the harm in at least asking your doctor to read it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32784671/

Antitumor Efficacy of the Herbal Recipe Benja Amarit against Highly Invasive Cholangiocarcinoma by Inducing Apoptosis both In Vitro and In Vivo - PubMed

Thailand is the country with highest incidence and prevalence of cholangiocarcinoma (CCA) in the world. Due to the frequently late diagnosis that is associated with this disease, most CCA patients are prescribed chemotherapy as a form of treatment. How...

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32784671

CrotchetyQuaver · 13/06/2023 13:26

Thank you for the update, I'm glad you feel a little more informed now. Hopefully not too long now till they decide your treatment plan xx

lightlypoached · 13/06/2023 20:07

@WilsonMilson it's good to make progress, even if it is a bit overwhelming. And it's good that you are crying and letting your emotions out too.

Your lovely boy.❤️. I wish him all the luck in the world. He sounds fabulous. I too, have a grown up boy (man!) and love him so fiercely. It's so wonderful that you've created such a smashing human who will fill his little part of the world with good things.

Having a chair in the bedroom is 'bedroom goals' as far as I'm concerned 😊. Lovely to have the space to stretch out. A nice funky cushion or blanket will make it all groovy and not patient-y at all.

Sleep well. The MN night watch are around if you need

catwithflowers · 13/06/2023 22:45

@lightlypoached What a lovely post.

And ❤️ to you Wilson, you amazing woman xx

deltablue · 13/06/2023 23:10

Just dropping into say hello. Praying you have a calm mind tonight and thinking of you daily . X

Naughty1205 · 14/06/2023 17:24

lightlypoached · 13/06/2023 20:07

@WilsonMilson it's good to make progress, even if it is a bit overwhelming. And it's good that you are crying and letting your emotions out too.

Your lovely boy.❤️. I wish him all the luck in the world. He sounds fabulous. I too, have a grown up boy (man!) and love him so fiercely. It's so wonderful that you've created such a smashing human who will fill his little part of the world with good things.

Having a chair in the bedroom is 'bedroom goals' as far as I'm concerned 😊. Lovely to have the space to stretch out. A nice funky cushion or blanket will make it all groovy and not patient-y at all.

Sleep well. The MN night watch are around if you need

Indeed a lovely post @lightlylightlypoached. Delurking to say I'm rooting for you OP. Wishing you strength, mental and physical, thinking of you and your lovely son, and family.

Passelevin · 15/06/2023 08:02

I’m also rooting for you @WilsonMilson

keeptalkinghappytalk · 15/06/2023 17:28

Sending you every bit of hope and calm over a virtual cup of tea. Your character shines through and you can draw on your strength and courage as you face your new plan.

Topee · 16/06/2023 19:01

Hope the call today bought some positive news about treatment options. Thinking of you.

SquirrelSoShiny · 17/06/2023 00:51

Sending you a late night hug @WilsonMilson 🫂🤗

WilsonMilson · 17/06/2023 12:16

Hi everyone, just a very short update, promise I’ll be back next week when I’m in a better state of mind. So unfortunately the PET scan showed the liver tumour has again grown, but not only mets to
lymph, but also mets to lungs - which weren’t there a month ago.
Surgery not an option. Next step is urgent biopsy to find out exactly what type of liver or bile duct cancer it is and then chemo. Feeling obviously devastated but need to pull myself together for a fight. At every turn it seems to be bad news, but I’m keeping moving ahead. I’m just not going to give up. I have a meeting on Tuesday at 10.15am to go over the plan ahead.
Going to try to have a peaceful weekend and a really nice Father’s Day for DH.
On the positive, DS passed his driving theory this morning. Oh, and I can’t remember if I updated as my brain is total mush, but he got Deputy Head Boy, I’m just so proud of him.

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NowZeusHasLainWithLeda · 17/06/2023 12:21

❤️ sending you love and strength and well done to your son. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree and he sounds like a wonderful example of that.

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