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Feeling very down - possible MS.

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fififrog · 14/07/2015 16:41

I posted this earlier on MS society talk pages, but nobody has replied - I am feeling very low and was hoping someone might chat to me. I figure mumsnet has more traffic hopefully! I feel like I am dealing with vague issues alone. I don't have a firm diagnosis, and am suffering from the anxiety and in-limbo feeling that this causes.

Four years ago just after my daughter was born I suffered a severe and sudden episode of double vision and partial facial paralysis. I was treated with strong steroids, which cleared the problem almost instantly. I had an MRI and lumbar puncture, both of which indicated that there was a strong chance that I have MS, but was told that diagnosis would not happen unless I had any further attacks.

Now I am suffering all sorts of odd symptoms that could be related or not. My vision is affected by a sort of shimmering affect like a migraine aura, only it never develops, just comes and goes but I've had it for around three weeks now (I think!). It also feels like my right eye is looking through a window but my left isn't - hard to explain, but my right eye just doesn't seem to be focussing quite as well. I've got tinnitus, which I usually have, partly because I get blocked ears a lot, but I feel it's worse than usual. I feel a bit nauseous, a bit dizzy, sometimes a bit disassociated. I also get a slightly tingly feeling across my back when I bend forward - again, this is nothing new for me and GP previously told me not to worry about it and many people have positional issues that cause slight nerve tingling. I am also suffering a bit from what I think are anxiety symptoms: my heart is beating hard, my normally slightly shaky hands are more shaky than normal. I've also got random itches all over the place. All of these symptoms come and go in various combinations.

I have been referred to the neurology dept for an "urgent" appointment, which means I have to wait over 2 months! My GP has said if it gets worse to go to the A&E, but really last time it was all so horrible that I don't want to have to go through with that again if I can't help it. I also feel that on the scale of things my symptoms are very minor so I shouldn't complain, and there's really no need for A&E but I am feeling very upset and anxious.

I suppose I am partially worrying that it could be something else entirely that needs treatment before September. On the other hand I'm also worrying that if it is MS, given it's not very severe, perhaps it's not an "attack" - I'm now starting to think that perhaps it has just been a gradual build-up of symptoms over the course of six months or so, and that this is just a general deterioration in health rather than a relapse. My husband tells me of course it will go away again, but I am scared that it won't.

Obviously, if it's progressive rather than remitting there won't be anything I can do about it, but I'd be interested to hear whether anyone who does have relapsing-remitting has very mild relapses?

Any advice on how to stop myself worrying? How to explain my worries to my family without upsetting my little girl?

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Momzilla82 · 20/07/2015 19:42

Hello. Another one to join our ship! Have some medicinal Wine and Cake. I don't know whether a diagnosis is good or bad for you. At least you know what you're dealing with and are in the system. How are you feeling about being official?

I've decided today to book to be seen privately as I think waiting til October was just going to be too stressful. Having rung up I find I'm seeing the doctor I would have seen in October and who I would revert back to on diagnosis with the NHS. Do we think the reason his waiting list is so long that he's also doing private work? Hmm

Ah well at least there'll be continuity of care. My parents are paying with some money from my long since passed nanna's house sale. I feel bad about that. But honestly I just couldn't manage the stress til October. I have only just gone back to work after DS2s birth to a new job in a new organisation. I'm lucky in that they are being fab about it. But I want to know where I am with things so I can plan. Hoping everyone else is feeling symptom free and positive today.

Momzilla82 · 20/07/2015 20:00

Oh and I've PM'd you where I am based OvertiredandConfused and apologies for the multiple thread hijacks fififrog it feels less lonely posting here but please tell me to bugger off if you wish and I'll start my own sad lonely thread Grin

fififrog · 20/07/2015 21:07

momzilla, overtired - I am not remotely upset about the hijacking - I'm glad I started something that is helping people get stuff off their chests :-). And well done for agreeing to let your parents sort it out - don't feel bad, I am sure they want to do the best for your family rather than sit on some money for a rainy day. Good luck! Let us know how you get on!

I talked to my boss today. Still feels odd becuase when I'm not feeling dizzy and pukey there isn't anything obviously wrong with me - nobody can see the weird stuff going on with my vision, or even notice the weird twitchy muscles (I can't even see it most of the time), or hear the horrendous buzzing in my ears... Anyway, he was great and told me to take it easy, back off stuff when I could etc.

Just found out also, having just explained to someone who is the secretary of an international working group that I chair why I hadn't reviewed the minutes yet, that someone else we both work with has just been diagnosed with cancer... I guess it could be worse.

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OvertiredandConfused · 20/07/2015 22:07

I'm feeling good being official, but it's obviously very early days. Waiting to hear from the MS nurses now and need to get my GP to refer me on the NHS back to the consultant who diagnosed me privately!

Told DH this evening - he'll be fine but is rather under-whelmed right now

Momzilla82 · 23/07/2015 11:39

Waiting patiently to hear if there's a cancelation today at the hospital. I've got reduced hours agreed at work, for next two weeks. Everyone is being lovely but finding it hard not to overdo it. Limbo land is a sucky place.

Good luck Overtired with your next step in the system. The MS nurses supposedly are very helpful.

OvertiredandConfused · 24/07/2015 00:39

Any luck getting an appointment Momzilla?

Message on answerphone from MS nurse - left 5.5 hours after telephone appointment - said she understood I'm "still working at the moment". Didn't inspire confidence!

Momzilla82 · 27/07/2015 21:51

No. Still waiting until 6th to see doctor. Meaning I have to rearrange holiday.

I'm sorry the MS nurse said that. That was not helpful. I wouldn't have been happy. I plan on working as long as I can. Presumably staying in work is good for your mental health, if you can balance the stress.

My symptoms are stable but I'm finding falling asleep hard as it feels like my hands are buzzing. It's very distracting.

whizzbang1 · 28/07/2015 21:47

I was diagnosed two years ago, and it is completely rubbish at times, but there are worse things - in my case anyway.
I have PPMS and have found that diet and exercise play a huge part in how I am on a daily basis. Also, sleep - it can make the difference between tremors and walking sticks to standing tall and appearing 'normal'.
I find the worst part is actually not the ms, but being treated differently by friends and relatives. I just want to be the same! In some ways it affected them more than me...
Good luck and lots of positive attitude should help!!

swisscheesetony · 04/08/2015 12:25

Just marking my place. Back at the docs today following a second "episode" last month. She's keeping me on amiltryptiline for the moment which helps. I was sent to A&E last year at the end of a really bad episode but there was no neurologist present and the consultant on duty kind of did the tests for medical school iykwim. Right now it's my left side which is buggered - thank god I'm right handed. Just split up with my husband and the thought of putting up curtain rails seems an impossible task when I can't lift a kettle. Coordination shot. New doc taking me very seriously and is referring me on - but it's a waiting game of courser.

csla · 07/08/2015 07:48

Hi, I don't have ms but last year was investigated for it. I had tingling and numbness etc. The mri found no lesions and neurologists tests were clear. While I was waiting for tests I read a book called 'overcoming multiple sclerosis'. The author, George who is a dr himself, has ms as did his mother. It is a diet and lifestyle plan to try to help slow progression / ease symptons. There is also a website with lots of supportive members some of whom have remarkable stories of success. I know I can't relate as I don't have this disease but I remember it made me hopeful and more positive incase the tests had come back with a diagnosis so I thought I'd share this. Best wishes to everyone x

Momzilla82 · 08/08/2015 22:09

So. I saw the neuro on Thursday. He said he isn't a betting man, but he doesn't think its MS. I don't feel reassured as he didn't have a good alternative diagnosis which would explain the symptoms. I have a date with an MRI scanner on Wednesday- and I can take my own CD to listen to- any recommendations? And weird question- am I naked during the scan or can I wear a gown?

HyacinthBouquetNo1 · 12/08/2015 13:33

Hi I got to wear my own clothes for MRI scan, just make sure there are no metal parts but I had to remove my bra and HRT patch. Not sure about taking your own music, there was some music playing through the headphones but once the machine started, I could barely hear any music the machine was so loud, and I had earplugs in and headphones on!

Good luck if I am not too late, you might have had it by now?

fififrog · 17/08/2015 21:51

Hello ladies, momzilla how was the MRI? I've been a bit busy with stuff recently, thankfully feeling much better other than weird vision stuff coming and going and shocking tinnitus, but at least I haven't been feeling like I'm waiting for something worse to happen.

Had my VEP test about 2 weeks ago - apparently I can call the neuro's secretary to get the results but am not really sure it's worth it - probably won't be any the wiser regardless of result as I've no idea whether a positive could mean something else entirely... MRI at the end of the month then I guess I'll be waiting for the neuro again... Sigh. Such a long waiting game.

Still, there's nothing like feeling better to bolster ones mood. I hope you're all doing OK, and get some answers soon

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fififrog · 17/08/2015 21:54

PS swisscheese that sounds grotty. I hope you have lits if friends who will help hang curtains... Must feel very rubbish not being self-sufficient.

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Momzilla82 · 18/08/2015 14:52

I had the MRI- it was supposed to take 40 minutes (brain and spine) but I was in there a full hour despite being very still. Been obsessing about that most of the week.
It wasn't entirely clear how I got results back so phoned hospital tomorrow and I'm seeing the neuro on Thursday evening to review results- but it's at such a time that my husband won't be able to come as he will have to put them to bed. I don't feel that positive about whatever happens next whichever way it goes. Still have symptoms.

Momzilla82 · 18/08/2015 14:53

Oh and I've started taking vitamins with vitamin D in which feels utterly futile but gives me some control at least.

fififrog · 18/08/2015 16:46

Oh dear Momzilla I hope the results are better than you expect either way. i wouldn't read too much into the time, prob just needed to redo something. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. I have a boring old virus at the moment. Off sick. Nice to be suffering with something mundane.

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swisscheesetony · 20/08/2015 10:49

Good luck tonight Momzilla !

fififrog Ex did them in about 20 minutes... I hope he will continue to do the bits I can't do.

I'm still waiting... buzzing & tingling.

Happyhippy45 · 12/09/2016 18:47

fififrog
I was diagnosed with relapse and remitting MS in March 2015. I had an MRI of the brain which my neurologist said "there wasn't very much going on in there" oh how we laughed
Had a 2nd one of the spine and there were a few "patches" in the thoracic region, then I had a lumbar puncture to confirm diagnosis.
Lumbar puncture caused a post lumbar puncture headache, which basically disabled me. Some of the symptoms you are describing (visual and especially the anxiety) are identical to the ones I had when I was leaking CSF fluid. I had a proceedure 3 months ago to fix the leak (for the second time) and am slowly recovering. Been off work for 10 months.
My ms originally presented itself with numbness and tingles in my legs, down my back, ms hug (like a big elastic band round my middle), brain fog, fatigue, a bit uncoordinated, tremor in left arm, over active bladder and difficulty walking. I've not had any further relapses and just now I have a slight numbness on the soles of my feet, brain fog when I get tired and peeing a lot. I can live with that.
The limbo part is pretty awful.
I started taking steps before I got my actual diagnosis and it seemed to help with all my symptoms, especially the difficulty in walking.
Vitamin D3, coenzyme q10, nothing processed, as much exercise as I could manage, tai chi and I layed off the booze for a good few months.
Very few people know I have ms. I've only told my husband, sister, sil (she had guilliane barre syndrome), my landlord who I rent my commercial kitchen from to explain why I couldn't do their Christmas party as I did every year.....not told my (adult) kids, my parents, my in laws, my brother or any of my friends. I won't tell them until I feel I have to. I know I'll be treated differently. I'm already getting a bit of that from the complications of the lumbar puncture and being laid up for so long.
Hopefully you have had some sort of conclusion to all this. It is frightening but it's not the end of the world. Your life may change but it's not over. Most days I don't even think about my ms.
Wishing you all well. Flowers FlowersFlowers

Jims · 12/09/2016 19:01

Hey
I was diagnosed with RRMS after my first (recognised) relapse 2 years ago. Top tip for anyone undergoing MRI is to make sure they use the dye as then it's easier to get a diagnosis after only 1 MRI scan. Best place for info is the MS research Blog run by the Barts team, they are really in favour of early treatment. I'd post a link but my train is just getting in.
Don't panic if you are diagnosed, there are many more treatments now for RRMS than there ever were.

SophieGan · 09/12/2020 20:37

Hello
Just wondering if you ever got to the bottom of this? Im having similar symptoms and it’s making me feel so down!!

Thank you

Starrr123 · 02/02/2021 07:04

@SophieGan hi sophie! Im getting the same. I was wondering if she ever gor to the end of it too.
What symptoms do you get? X

SophExx · 02/02/2021 12:54

Heya. I recently had blood test results for vitamin d and I am severely low which is causing these kind of symptoms. Hope this helps! x

Starrr123 · 02/02/2021 19:54

@SophExx thanks for replying! I hd bloods done. Gp said all ok. I am currently pregnant. Dont know if that is effecting me xxx

Starrr123 · 02/02/2021 19:58

@SophExx has taken vitamin d stopped it all now ? X