Totally shocked!!! Need help please!

[danceswithdeath]

Okay so. My son goes to a private school; they do pray etc but we are not religious at home. There are obviously other parents who do not follow a religion too.

I am on a group WhatsApp with the fellow parents of my sons class (just gone into year three). Someone has just put a link for us to sign, and it is regarding not teaching our children about LGBTQ in class....

Now, I get it. Everyone has their own personal opinions. But I find this really shocking!! No one has replied expect myself, where I have asked if it was a mistake or not. They said no and to read it.

Well I really want to put something, but I'm not sure if I should... it's pissed me right off though!! I am so open with my son! He knows about a lot.

Has anyone any advice on what I could say that is calm and to the point?

I don't leave it up to their school teachers to teach things that are private and totally irrelevant in their education.

Define education. Surely it's not only Maths and English.

Why shouldn't learning about our own bodies and each other's also part of Education?

I think nanny state explain all this, appalling that even the basics of parenting responsibilities are now left to the school and for it to be compulsory is even worst. Ill decide how when if and what tell my children about puberty sex relationship etc, i dont need the school to police that. And yes some parents dont talk about it with their kids, well they ll get it at some point anyway. Keeping like this will bring the state to take over childrearing completely.

So a young girl starting her period having not being told by anyone what a period is is fine, is it?

Its not amazing but A:most parents will explain periods to their daughters
B:whilst not the best its not a lifetime trauma is it?
If thats the thinking we should have people coming to our homes and monitor whan the kids are fed, how much, whether their screentime is within guidelines, what time they go to bed...do I need to continue?

Lots of parents don’t fully understand the menstrual cycle, children of those parents shouldn’t be let down. Boys also need to know about the ins and outs of menstruation as it is likely that in the future they will have a wife/daughters. So not only do they need to know what to expect, but they can be another person helping their partner if something isn’t right, rather being clueness and not realising that x symptom isn’t normal.

So a woman that has had periods all ger adult life cant explain them to her children? Even "two daddies" families should will have some female in their life i guess, or they may know enough themselves. By all means offer puberty talks at school, but no need for compulsory ones or cartoons of people having sex in year 5, 10 years old, which has nothing to do with puberty( read on here its good or pupils wont know they have to move whilst having sex 🤦‍♀️)

As for what symptoms are normal would be far more useful to have doctors that actually take womens health seriously, and i really dont think they teach symptoms of abnormal cycle at school

Who's showing five year olds people having sex? And I'm not sure why you put two daddies in quotes.

Perhaps those who have concerns could, and I know this is radical, talk to the school (s) their child(ren) attend and find out what is covered in the lessons.
That way there would be more information on which to base an informed decision.

Year 5 not 5 year olds.

Problem with talking to the school is those lessons are compulsory , so u find out something u dont agree with but still you have to let tour children take part.

Not true, itson. Parents are allowed to withdraw their child from sex education lessons.

Parents can't withdraw them from other lessons where they may be told that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, but there is obviously nothing wrong with that.

Still, taking the choice away from parents. No need for lessons to talk about homosexuality, even if mainstream ideas is theres nothing wrong with that. People may and are allowed to disagree wether theres nothing wrong with that. And they are allowed to decide if to teach their kids if theres anything wrong or not with homosexuality, and they can do that without any kind of hate speech , same like other things they dont consider right( see for example getting drunk, having extramarital sex etc etc. All of this tought as "nothing wrong with that" at school.

At school we were taught that racism is wrong and all races are equal. Should we not have been taught that because some parents disagree?

No need for lessons to talk about homosexuality, even if mainstream ideas is theres nothing wrong with that.

It's the law. Same sex marriage or partnerships are legal and done. Adoption by same sex couples is legal. Discrimination against LGBT is illegal. Hate speech is illegal.

It is not a matter of being "mainstream". It's the law of the country. And children should be taught how to live in the country. Whatever their parents think about those issues.

Dont recall a racisism class? You can twach it is wrong to discriminate and its wrong to treat people badly but you make alright something that people dont believe its right. If the government decided that drugs are fine and normal and nothing wrong wrong with it as its a person choice, would you be happy for your children to partecipate in a lesson that talks how drugs are fine rather then a lesson that just explain that some people take drugs? Thats the difference, those lessons are supposed to expose children to different realities, but what they r doing is try to change the way people feel about some issues and taking over parents teachings by making those lessons compulsory.

I'm curious, though.
Those against children being taught about LGBT at school, what do you say to your children about it at home?
What do you say when your child asks about Tommy's two dads?

If the government decided that drugs are fine and normal and nothing wrong wrong

Are you suggesting that homosexuality is in the same ballpark as using drugs?

Lwjy something being legal and desirable is not the same thing. Getting completely drunk is legal, but wouldnt go teaching kids that getting shitfaced is fine and acceptable.

Again, are you suggesting that gay marriage is the same as getting drunk?

I just tell them (as i did)two men and two women are legally allowed to marry and thats their business , but its not something we agree with.

Example of something not desirable for kids to do in some's point of view. Good try on usual " lets change the direction of the conversation " tho

two men and two women are legally allowed to marry and thats their business

How is that different from what children are taught at school?

And then you, as parents, say, at home, that you don't agree with it. Or do you say more than "don't agree"?

Am I not allowed this comparation? Isnt getting drunk something legal that some families cultures and religions accept whilst others dont?

Example of something not desirable for kids to do in some's point of view.

Not desirable why?

Drugs and alcohol - bad for health
Homosexuality - you don't agree

See the difference?