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Advice for dealing with schools re trans child

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IamMrsElf · 15/01/2016 12:06

My Trans DD is due to start school in September. I was wondering if anyone else has enrolled a trans child or has a trans child at school, what are your experiences and advice?

I'm just not sure what to expect or how to deal with it all.

I do have a child at the school currently, so I know the teachers and the school. Some of the staff are aware and so far my interactions with them have been positive.

I feel apprehensive for my DD and just want some thoughts and advice from those that have been there.

OP posts:
StuffandBother · 16/01/2016 18:44

Northernbird I feel really uncomfortable about this too. I know it's 'Bad form' on Mumsnet to read a posters posting history but I did, and found a lot of stuff about your sadness at having 3 boys and no girl, to the point of you considering adopting ... a girl. Please, please op go and see your GP.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 16/01/2016 18:45

I can only hope that if OP insists on carrying down this route that professional services get involved as soon as she starts pushing her views at school. There's no teacher who'll stand by and let this happen.
It's very sad as OP is not malicious, just in need of some proper psychological help.

TiggyD · 16/01/2016 18:47

I'd just like to condemn most (but not all) of the posters on this thread for their lack of sensitivity, tact and subtlety.

I do hope the OP is OK.

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 16/01/2016 18:48
Hmm
bigbuttons · 16/01/2016 18:50

Yes the op does need psychiatric help, also some parenting courses so that she can understand children's normal developmental stages.

bigbuttons · 16/01/2016 18:51

And no the op is not ok.

Claraoswald36 · 16/01/2016 18:53

Is this thread for real?
I bloody hope not.

Claraoswald36 · 16/01/2016 18:54

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Floggingmolly · 16/01/2016 18:55

All the traits you're famous for, Tiggy....

LyndaNotLinda · 16/01/2016 18:56

I'd like to condemn you for being an unutterable mansplaining arse on 90% of threads Tiggy.

I also hope the OP is okay. And is reconsidering her stance considering that most of the advice on this thread has been really very helpful and drawing relevant parallels from posters' own experiences.

Frankmonkey · 16/01/2016 19:02

I'm not surprised most trans adults felt trans from an early age. Seeing as being gender fluid is a very common and normal part of young children's development. As many posters on here have said. I remember sitting in the bath pulling my labia out and telling my mum I wanted a willy like a boy. In this day and age, coupled with my insistence on short hair and boys toys would have had me down the gender clinic before you could say jack munroe. Thank God I had sensible parents who probably rolled eyes and moved on. I bloody love being a woman.

ObsidianBlackbirdMcNight · 16/01/2016 19:12

I'd like to condemn you for being an unutterable mansplaining arse on 90% of threads

Seconded

NorthernBird92 · 16/01/2016 19:25

I don't feel I am lacking sensitivity, people who are saying posters are being unfair ect are you for real!!!
This is clearly a mother emotionally abusing her child! I am sorry if people are offended by what I am saying but it is true.
This child sorry BABY will not even understand what transgender is let alone want to be it!!!! This is utter ridiculous and I am genuinely concerned for the welfare of the child involved!!!!
I believe what is happening is a mother pushing her child to be something she is desperate for and that's damaging.
I can't actually believe people are standing up for the OP.
The OP doesn't need people to defend or support her disturbing mindset she needs a reality check and professional help. As does her dh IF and only IF he supports her like she has said he does

NorthernBird92 · 16/01/2016 19:27

stuffandbother I am the same since I first read this thread I can't stop thinking of this. I feel so sad for the child

Devilishpyjamas · 16/01/2016 19:34

God I've just remembered during my tomboy phase I also tried peeing standing up - blimey - thank god no-one thought I was trans!

Claraoswald36 · 16/01/2016 19:36

Smacks of fabricated illness syndrome as well

NorthernBird92 · 16/01/2016 19:38

claraoswald36 yes that's what I feel like an attention seeking thing.

newnameillchangeback · 16/01/2016 19:41

Op I have a child who is currently choosing to live as a different gender, so, believe me when I say I am 100% supportive and aware of what you are going through.

People have told me I am wrong to support my child, that at 16 they are capable of making that decision, we have had all sorts of hell thrown at us.

My child also began saying at 3 or 4 they didn't feel 'right' didn't feel like they fitted in, they felt as though they were 'different'.

I sat back, listened, and, like my other dc they were able chose their toys, clothes, hobbies, friends etc according to their taste,not according to stereotypes.

Still my child told me that they were unhappy.

So when my child turned 8 I decided to get some counselling (not gender counselling) to see what was going on.

The counsellor told me nothing new, my dc was unhappy and recommended specific gender counselling.

We went to the childrens mental health team where we are and they referred us over.

It was at this point I spoke to the school.

By this point we were coming onto 6 years of my child expressing these feelings.

So we went to family counselling, gender counselling and the school psychologist spoke to my dc too.

Together (about a year on from this) we decided what would be the harm in just referring to my dc as the gender they want, and allowing my dc to change their name.

Which is where we are at now.

My dc, currently, is NOT trangender, my dc has NOT transitioned.

We still attend counselling, and face challenges, and it is a long road ahead, regardless of whether my dc does eventually transition or not, and we are now years into my dc being referred to as their new name and gender.

There has been heartache, and sadness, nastiness, people we love have left our lives and my dc has grown up far beyond their years.

Maybe my dc will grow to be trangender, maybe they won't (actually the likelihood is they won't since something like 80+% of children who go through this don't go on to transition in adulthood) but just now I see it as a phase that I am supportive of, and actually, the way my dc talks about their body I wonder if it is a form of dysmorphia) but I won't be allowing my dc to take drugs (we have been offered) or do anything that can't be reversed.

Despite me having a relatively young child who identifies as the opposite sex currently, I really think what you are doing is far too much too soon.

You need to get professional help, for you, your children (all of them) especially your child who is having these feelings, your husband and maybe even your wider family.

You need to give it so much more time than you have and be very non committal about anything in these early days.

You need to get help BEFORE you make any choices regarding schools etc.

If your child is transgender then it is a journey that will last a lifetime, there is no hurry to start it at all. But, if your dc is trans then they have supportive parents and that is great, and so much morethan a lot of trans people have.

You also have to be very cautious of not giving it too much attention, children thrive on attention and will adapt their behaviour into what gets them the most. On a day to day, week to week or even month to month basis now it makes no odds to anything we do (aside from attending counselling) that my dc is living 'differently', it isn't mentioned often, I will have the odd meeting at school, but nothing about it is a big deal in front of my dc.

Finally I would like to say that this really is a growing trend, certain sites and forums I am on have had an influx of people recently saying their child is trans because they like pink/blue whatever and it is terrifying beyond belief. People with 2 and 3 year olds assigning genders to their babies based on childhood behaviours and being encouraged. I think we are heading for a huge backlash in years to come from children who have been coaxed into being trans rather than coming to that decision by themselves. I would really encourage people not to get help from these forums at the moment and seek help from professionals.

I know most on MN won't agree with the choices I have made, but I just wanted you to hear from someone who has been there, done that.

I hope you all get the help you need Flowers

Claraoswald36 · 16/01/2016 19:46

Amazing post newnamechange Flowers

SoftDriftedSnow · 16/01/2016 19:46

Amazing post, newnameillchangeback

SoftDriftedSnow · 16/01/2016 19:47

Snap Grin

VashtaNerada · 16/01/2016 19:48

Sensible and helpful post newname

YouBastardSockBalls · 16/01/2016 19:50

Applauds newnamechange

Devilishpyjamas · 16/01/2016 19:57

Sounds a sensible way of dealing with things newname

Sparklycat · 16/01/2016 20:32

I wish the OP had your sensible and sensitive outlook on things newnamechange that is the best way of handling things, not forcing a label of trans onto a 3 year old Hmm

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