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Deceitful behaviour from school - don't know where to turn

512 replies

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 17:33

Hi,

My son's school denied him access for 3 days last year due to his mum having COVID. Following our own research we determined that it was unlawful for the school to deny access for this reason.

Once we presented the legal advice to the school they changed their advice and altered their criteria for allowing my son back into school. It seems very clear to me that they were concerned about the repercussions of unlawful actions and tried to misrepresent their original instructions.

I complained to the school and I've gone through the complaints process with the chair of governors, a complaints panel and the DfE.

The governors have consistently provided inaccurate information during the complaints process which I strongly believe is their attempt to cover up the schools original actions. The governors have access to all of the evidence which is in email form but they continue to misrepresent that evidence.

The DfE have confirmed that the decision to deny access was unlawful.

The Local Authority are not willing to do any other than ensure the school is adhering to the complaints process from now forwards.

I am literally sick to death of feeling wronged by the school and not having a channel that will listen to me and go through the evidence in sufficient detail.

I don't really want to go down the legal route myself but feel like I'm running out of options. Would be great to hear any advice from someone in the know or someone who has been through something similar.

Many thanks,
Ian.

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WallaceinAnderland · 13/05/2025 22:16

This happened in July 2024

Everyone except you has forgotten about it OP.

Why does it matter that much to you?

Baital · 13/05/2025 22:16

Do you want your son to think that missing 3 days of 'cool activities' has messed up his life, or that it is mildly annoying but - in the end - no big deal?

If you want him to treat any minor set back as disabling, carry on.

On the other hand, if you want him to develop the resilience to deal with the normal minor disappointments that will inevitably happen - the job interview where he did well but someone else was better, the partner who splits up with them because it isn't working any more etc etc - then better to let it go.

Cool activities are fun. Not getting them on occasion isn't life threatening, even if it isn't fair.

There's a whole world of not fair that goes WAY beyond cool activities. Having enough to eat, being physically safe etc etc

cocoromo · 13/05/2025 22:16

Please take up a hobby and do not bother the school again.

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:18

Cucy · 13/05/2025 22:12

You seem to care more about your pride than your own son, which is really sad.

Well you really don't know me.

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LittleMonks11 · 13/05/2025 22:19

Did your son blame his mother for missing the last three days of primary? Surely they are both over it by now?

SuperTrooper14 · 13/05/2025 22:19

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:14

The school explicitly emailed us to say that my wife sharing her COVID status caused the school to take action.

Okay, so they got it wrong. It's not a legal matter though.

jamontoast2 · 13/05/2025 22:19

You need to let this go and I think you should reflect on what you’re modelling to your son. This has clearly absolutely preoccupied you but why? Sure it’s an annoying mistake and sure it was upsetting for him to miss some last days but you’re just displaying to him that rather than errors and annoyances being a normal part of life that we move on from, instead they’re something to obsess over. I doubt your son would’ve had any enduring upset at this issue past a few days had it not clearly been a topic chewed over endlessly within the family for nearly a year now! You really want your child to grow up to lose their inner peace for months on end to something so minor? What’s next - insomnia over parking ticket? Anxiety for months over a misunderstood work email? Kids watch for our reactions to events to know how they should react. You’ve taken what could’ve been a learning opportunity for resilience, clear communication, letting go, and focusing on the big picture in life and instead taught him that he should obsessive over and remain upset over something largely inconsequential that happened months ago.

LegallyLoopy · 13/05/2025 22:20

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 21:24

They didn't know what the law said. That's a bit disappointing wouldn't you say? When i told them what the law said they couldn't admit they had made a mistake and instead said that they hadn't excluded my son at all.

Which law did they break that you quoted to them?

SuperTrooper14 · 13/05/2025 22:20

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:18

Well you really don't know me.

So your son wants you to take legal action against his old school?

Overhaul54 · 13/05/2025 22:20

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 21:41

Because we're responsible people, COVID still exists and some people are vulnerable.

So you told them “ to be responsible” and then got pissed off because they took precautions.

If you have D&V it’s 48 hours off school because it could be viral. If your kid has D&V because they’ve had hot sun, cold swim and tons of sugary ice cream you don’t say a word because next day they are well.

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:21

Baital · 13/05/2025 22:16

Do you want your son to think that missing 3 days of 'cool activities' has messed up his life, or that it is mildly annoying but - in the end - no big deal?

If you want him to treat any minor set back as disabling, carry on.

On the other hand, if you want him to develop the resilience to deal with the normal minor disappointments that will inevitably happen - the job interview where he did well but someone else was better, the partner who splits up with them because it isn't working any more etc etc - then better to let it go.

Cool activities are fun. Not getting them on occasion isn't life threatening, even if it isn't fair.

There's a whole world of not fair that goes WAY beyond cool activities. Having enough to eat, being physically safe etc etc

As I've said many times on here now, it's not the exclusion I'm so bothered about. It's more that the school, it's teachers, it's governors and anyone in public service signs up to a code of practice. If you have evidence that people are breaching that code don't you have some right to expose it?

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WearyAuldWumman · 13/05/2025 22:22

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 21:41

Because we're responsible people, COVID still exists and some people are vulnerable.

So you wouldn't want to risk it being passed on at school then?

Teenybub · 13/05/2025 22:22

This is all very dramatic, it isn’t that much of a big deal. The school is run by humans, humans make errors. To me it sounds like it’s been blown so much out of proportion that they daren’t apologise because it will be accepting responsibility and you will go after them further.

I wonder how much time has been spent on this none issue that could have been spent enriching the lives of children. Please teach your child to be more resilient than you, their life will be much happier.

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:22

LittleMonks11 · 13/05/2025 22:19

Did your son blame his mother for missing the last three days of primary? Surely they are both over it by now?

No he didn't blame his mum.

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CrookedNeighbours · 13/05/2025 22:24

Your son was allowed back to school.
They dealt with your complaint

Why are you still going on about it. Its over.
Move on
Find something else to fill your time and mind.

Jigsawasaurus · 13/05/2025 22:24

You've got to start thinking on how this is affecting you, your son and your wife. Is it really worth holding onto this and rehashing it over and over, for what is likely a limited outcome? Your wife needs to move on from feeling responsible, and your son needs to move on from the disappointment. This could all have been a year in the past and a year more distant in your memories; instead it's right at the forefront, a shadow over everything.

SuperTrooper14 · 13/05/2025 22:25

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:21

As I've said many times on here now, it's not the exclusion I'm so bothered about. It's more that the school, it's teachers, it's governors and anyone in public service signs up to a code of practice. If you have evidence that people are breaching that code don't you have some right to expose it?

But they have admitted they got it wrong. What more do you want? People to lose their jobs? The school to close? What is your end game here?

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:25

Teenybub · 13/05/2025 22:22

This is all very dramatic, it isn’t that much of a big deal. The school is run by humans, humans make errors. To me it sounds like it’s been blown so much out of proportion that they daren’t apologise because it will be accepting responsibility and you will go after them further.

I wonder how much time has been spent on this none issue that could have been spent enriching the lives of children. Please teach your child to be more resilient than you, their life will be much happier.

I sat in a meeting with the governors and literally said (the meeting was minuted) if someone can tell me now that they accept that they could have dealt with the situation better and admitted their original mistake then it would all be over.

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Tripleblue · 13/05/2025 22:25

It was disgusting of them to essentially exclude him for 3 days. Keep pursuing it.

Annascaul · 13/05/2025 22:26

Tripleblue · 13/05/2025 22:25

It was disgusting of them to essentially exclude him for 3 days. Keep pursuing it.

Oh, do give over 😆

SuperTrooper14 · 13/05/2025 22:26

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:25

I sat in a meeting with the governors and literally said (the meeting was minuted) if someone can tell me now that they accept that they could have dealt with the situation better and admitted their original mistake then it would all be over.

But you said they HAVE admitted they got it wrong, because they changed their policy.

Overhaul54 · 13/05/2025 22:27

Yes they are all lying bastards that ruined the best 3 days of Year 6. Who remembers year 6 ? Your son won’t care because he wasn’t there.

Hopefully he’s had a great Year 7. Focus on him.

Tiswa · 13/05/2025 22:28

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:21

As I've said many times on here now, it's not the exclusion I'm so bothered about. It's more that the school, it's teachers, it's governors and anyone in public service signs up to a code of practice. If you have evidence that people are breaching that code don't you have some right to expose it?

A mistake isn’t a breach of a code of practice

godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:28

WearyAuldWumman · 13/05/2025 22:22

So you wouldn't want to risk it being passed on at school then?

My wife agreed to stay away from school even though the previous week the headteacher had said that staff needn't stay away unless they feel so unwell that they can't make it in.

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godofthunder24 · 13/05/2025 22:28

SuperTrooper14 · 13/05/2025 22:20

So your son wants you to take legal action against his old school?

Nope he's unaware of the whole process.

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