Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Legal matters

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you have any legal concerns we suggest you consult a solicitor.

Child rights with absent dad?

138 replies

whatcolourarepolarbears · 20/08/2024 14:47

My ex walked out 9 years ago and last made an effort to see our daughter (13, ASD/ADHD) in 2016 - that was for 45 minutes. The last regular contact he had was the year before for a few days every other month. It was his choice - I've never withheld contact, but didn't reach out to him either. He's a grown man who was sadly distracted with other women, our daughter was low on his priority list. I stayed in that house for another 4 years, never changed my number/email/socials so he can still contact if he chooses. I believe he's changed his number, and I'm blocked on all his social media.

In 2017 I met my new partner - we took things slowly, and moved in together 2 years ago. He's amazing with her, she adores him and life is pretty good. Her autism means she fixates on things, and the latest is us dying - she's worried about what will happen to her.(I believe it's triggered in part from watching Annie and seeing the orphanages..)She stopped mentioning her dad months before his last visit, and hasn't ever spoke about him or asked. She introduces my partner as 'step-dad' without us bringing it up - she's come to that decision alone.

So - I want to put some legal protection in place - including granting parental responsibility to my partner, and appointing my dad as a 'guardian' in case anything happens to either of us. And immediately hit some snags! It seems I can't allocate parental responsibility unless we're married or in a civil partnership - and all the forms etc mention mediation is mandatory before you can apply for a Child Arrangement Order - but I don't know where he lives or how to contact him! I also don't really want to 'lift that rock' of contacting him in case he demands access - I don't think she would cope well at all after all this time. I'm waiting to hear back from some solicitors, but wondered if anyone else has dealt with anything similar?

OP posts:
coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 08:15

whatcolourarepolarbears · 21/08/2024 20:26

He was. Ive no idea now. Doesn’t show up on any public search - i’ve also had colleagues (who he wouldn’t know) check, no luck.

As i said, I’d imagine he’s quite happy not being found. Long story but he was called to an incident years ago and it was someone he knew. After the funeral he started spending time with old school friend who were drug users, and although I couldnt prove it, i suspect he began using due to his changes in behaviour - possible PTSD but wouldn’t seek help. Over the next year he got more involved with these people and i was told he owed them a lot of money. About this time i also caught him cheating, hence the split. I was led to understand that he failed a drugs/ fitness test and had to leave his job. If he’s still involved in that life, it makes perfect sense that that he prefers not to be found.

how long were you with him before he walked out?

coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 08:17

but you think he’d be after the CB money if you died (although i think unlikely given paltry amount and fact he has paid CMS consistently throughout the years)

So i’m confused why you also think he’s grant permission for this?

coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 08:19

op

do you accept that your daughter is of an age where in the event of your sudden demise

  1. she would be able to articulate forcefully her preference and the courts would put a LOT of weight against this
  2. no one can physically force a 14/15 year old to live anywhere. And at 16, wouldn’t be a court issue anyway
whatcolourarepolarbears · 22/08/2024 12:35

coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 08:15

how long were you with him before he walked out?

9 years.

OP posts:
whatcolourarepolarbears · 22/08/2024 12:36

coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 08:17

but you think he’d be after the CB money if you died (although i think unlikely given paltry amount and fact he has paid CMS consistently throughout the years)

So i’m confused why you also think he’s grant permission for this?

Yes the CB money but also DLA, plus he wouldn’t have to pay CM any more to me.

OP posts:
whatcolourarepolarbears · 22/08/2024 12:37

coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 08:19

op

do you accept that your daughter is of an age where in the event of your sudden demise

  1. she would be able to articulate forcefully her preference and the courts would put a LOT of weight against this
  2. no one can physically force a 14/15 year old to live anywhere. And at 16, wouldn’t be a court issue anyway

Yes but she has autism and ADHD so i’m concerned about how much this would impact things.

OP posts:
coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 15:04

whatcolourarepolarbears · 22/08/2024 12:37

Yes but she has autism and ADHD so i’m concerned about how much this would impact things.

it wouldn’t

coffeenootropics · 22/08/2024 15:05

in fact, presuming your ex has no experience of caring for a ND child and your father is very involved…. combine that with a teenage girl articulating that she wants to live with her grandfather and not a man she’s not seen for years…. the court would almost certainly see your father as more suitable

added to which, as a teenage girl no one can force her to live anywhere

malden · 23/08/2024 09:32

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

malden · 23/08/2024 09:35

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines - previously banned poster.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 24/08/2024 05:49

whatcolourarepolarbears · 20/08/2024 15:23

There must be a way I can legally appoint someone to care for my child over a complete stranger who hasn't seen her in 8 years? I'm thinking of the emotional harm it would do her to be uprooted and sent to someone she doesn't know...

Would he actually want her? No court can force him to parent, they couldn't send her unless he wanted her.

If you did get his PR removed it might be the same as with adoption by a step parent that the parent who no longer has PR doesn't need to pay maintenance anymore. Sorry just seen you know this bit.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 24/08/2024 06:01

whatcolourarepolarbears · 22/08/2024 12:37

Yes but she has autism and ADHD so i’m concerned about how much this would impact things.

Why do you think this will impact things? Does she also have a low IQ or global developmental delays or severe learning difficulties? Being ND doesn't affect capacity to make decisions or reduce competency to make decisions in and of itself. My ND DD would be considered no less competent in court than an NT child her age, her Autism doesn't make her less competent.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 24/08/2024 06:52

Personally at her age I'd rely on the court listening to her, but if I did want to sort it all out legally then if I had the money I'd start by finding a good private investigator and see if they can track him down. There will he some sort of legal process for parents that completely disappear,
but given he's paying CM that's not the case here. Finding him and selling it as no more CM is probably the best option.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread