Autistic son interviewed without appropriate adult

[taylorwhite883]

Hi my son who is 19 and autistic was not provided with an appropriate adult during the interview when he was arrested for breach of a restraining order which he confessed to in the interview.

He declined a solicitor at the police station so he had no support from anyone at the station during the custodial process and interview.

He was seen by a nurse shortly before the interview and then she gave the green light for him to be interviewed.

He is currently RUI and I was wondering what are the chances the confession could be excluded under S78 of PACE since this is a clear breach of PACE?

England.

Thanks.

Op's son was arrested for breaching a restraining order. He has already committed a crime and was re-arrested for another.

He has got off on a technicality not because he is innocent.

Autism isn't an excuse. If you are planning to excuse your son's criminal behaviour op, you'd better prepare for the next incident.

Just to be clear as I mentioned in my previous posts my son has always denied breaching the restraining order and made a false confession at the Police station in the hope he would get his computer back right away.

The Police either found no or not enough evidence during the forensic analysis on his computer that he breached the restraining order which is why the outcome has ended like this.

I would say my son is the real victim in all of this because the Police did not provide him with an appropriate adult when the law states they should have and therefor breached PACE (Police and Criminal Evidence Act) which led to the interview being unreliable evidence and likely bringing this matter to an end.

@taylorwhite883 just because there isn't enough evidence it doesn't mean your son is innocent, or even more so, or doesn't mean your son is a victim.

It also doesn't mean my son is guilty even though many people in this thread are talking like he is and that they feel "sorry" for the victim.

If my son tells me he did not breach the restraining order and also had forensic experts examining his computer then I 100% believe him when he says he has done nothing wrong.

Do you feel sorry for the victim who has to have had a restraining order put in place?

I would say my son is the real victim in all of this
Astounding... He's had his laptop seized twice for forensic examination and has a restraining order in place against him.
But it's all someone else's fault and your son is a poor maligned victim.

He'll do it again 🤷🏻‍♀️

Why wouldn't he, when Mummy assures him that he's the victim?

@taylorwhite883

Your son has a restraining order against him.
Stop enabling his behaviour just because he's autistic. The only true victim in this, is the poor person who has to put the restraining order in place.

Your son doesn't get all of his actions justified just because he has autism. And just because he denies something. Autism isn't a get out of jail free card. Your son shouldn't have access to the internet at all tbh.

There is no evidence to suggest my son has continued his past behaviour which is why the CPS has discontinued proceedings even after computer forensic experts examined his devices.

My son is autistic, mentally vulnerable, and yet was not provided with the necessary safeguards at the Police station.

That is why I class my son the victim in this because the Police thought they could take advantage of my son.

And your son thought he could commit such an offence that someone’s had no choice but to get a restraining order.

I know who I have pity for.

So, it's okay for your son to take advantage of others to the point a restraining order gets put in place, "because he's autistic"

But the police 'took advantage' because they didn't get him the solicitor that he declined. Righteo.
Your son is no victim. Get him off of the internet.

Police need to learn to follow procedures and not shortcut them because they feel like it

There is zero evidence to suggest he breached the restraining order.

As I have stated multiple times already he made a false confession in the hope he would get his computer back right after the interview so that it doesn't have to be sent off for forensic analysis which can take a long time.

There is no evidence to back up your theory

@Theunamedcat

He has a restraining order against him...

Completely agree. The victim is the person who had to get a restraining order against him.

You are getting a hard time on here.

I'm so relieved he wasn't prosecuted. I too think police need much more training in Autism.

I don't think the people commenting on here understand the way an autistic person processes information.

I have two autistic adult children and I could very much see this type of misunderstanding. They would be factually correct right up to the bare wire of what was acceptable.

I am Autistic, as are two of my children, thanks. Infantilising us like this is fucking offensive.

What the actual fuck...

How do you propose taking the internet away from someone?

Doesn't mean he broke it

No but he did something in the first place to have the restraining order put against him...