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Does my brother still have to pay children maintainer for his 17 year old working son?

243 replies

Nikki037297 · 07/02/2022 07:07

My brother has a son who is 17 and is working part time and at college part time. His ex is demanding money as my brother is just going back to work after being on the sick after an accident at work and breaking a bone in his neck and not being able to work for around 20 months now. He’s googled it and can’t find much out and it seams a bit complicated and never mentions the child working and what would happen in those circumstances. Does anyone know ?

OP posts:
Lalala1 · 07/02/2022 16:23

@Nikki037297

I can’t believe how many very rude responses there is towards me. I asked a question about my brother. I don’t know why people are talking about me being pregnant and my boyfriend. My boyfriend is 27 (27 isn’t quite old enough for a 17 year old child but I have seen stranger things) and has always worked, he had a job interview for a lorry driver a few weeks back, he didn’t get the job so he’s staying on at his job he’s been at 4 years. That’s nothing to do with my brother.

But that’s not what I was asking. I didn’t want everyone’s opinions on my whole life. I was visiting my brother as it was his daughter’s birthday and we got talking about him going back to work. Yes he’s been on the sick he’s fortunate to have a partner who works part time and to have paid off his mortgage when he was still working before his accident.

Thank you to the people who answered my question properly instead of bitching on about my brother

The reason people are having a go at your brother is because your brother doesn’t want to provide for his child as he has a part time job and hasn’t done for the last 20 months because he was off work sick both aren’t reasons for not providing for your children period! Read the room
Nomoreusernames1244 · 07/02/2022 16:27

hasn’t done for the last 20 months because he was off work sick both aren’t reasons for not providing for your children period!

So when you have a broken neck and can’t work, where exactly is the money for CM supposed to come from?

i was made redundant for a year at one point. I couldn’t contribute towards my kids. As an RP though I got tax credits, child benefit, job seekers allowance, housing benefit etc which kept us afloat.

NowEvenBetter · 07/02/2022 16:33

Your brother is the rude one, wanting wriggle out of his obligations.

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 16:40

My point is that is why only minimal cms is due when the nrp is ill

And it’s not really fair of posters to say he should magic money up to pay

Well thankfully the government disagree with you and CMS still expect the Non RP to pay even if on SSP

Mellowyellow222 · 07/02/2022 16:41

Do you have a relationship with your nephew? Do you not see how awful your brother is being?

Poor kid.

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 16:41

* So when you have a broken neck and can’t work, where exactly is the money for CM supposed to come from?*

SSP

Non RP on SSP still have to payCMS

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 16:46

And during that year following redundancy
If you claimed JSA, then you should have been paying
It’s a measley £7 a week
But you should have paid that

Clymene · 07/02/2022 16:53

It's a website for women where many of them are scrabbling to feed their kids because of deadbeat dads like your brother, hoping to weasel out of their obligation to support their children.

I'm surprised you thought your brother's tale of woe would go down well on here.

BillMasen · 07/02/2022 16:59

@Toanewstart23

*My point is that is why only minimal cms is due when the nrp is ill *

And it’s not really fair of posters to say he should magic money up to pay

Well thankfully the government disagree with you and CMS still expect the Non RP to pay even if on SSP

A token £7 Many posters think that’s not enough and he should continue paying as if he were working
BillMasen · 07/02/2022 17:00

@Toanewstart23

And during that year following redundancy If you claimed JSA, then you should have been paying It’s a measley £7 a week But you should have paid that
I agree. They should have paid £7
Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 17:03

That is if it was SSP

Any other source of income ie enhanced employer sickness etc

Then should be added on accordingly

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 17:05

Can you imagine all the extra costs the RP would incur to get childcare if they broke their neck and was incapacitated?!

ancientgran · 07/02/2022 17:12

Would you need childcare for a 17 year old? If the 17 year old is capable enough for college and a part time job I can't see where childcare comes into it.

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 17:14

Don’t know
If he doesn’t drive and you live in the sticks
Possibly need help with transport

ancientgran · 07/02/2022 17:19

Maybe it's a language thing, I don't think it is child care if I'm giving someone a lift.

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 17:21

@ancientgran

Maybe it's a language thing, I don't think it is child care if I'm giving someone a lift.
But it’s a RP cost that a NON RP would be completely oblivious too
Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 17:23

In any event
It was the fact that if an RP broke their neck and had children - let’s say any age below 16 for arguments sake - they definitely would face additional costs that the Non RP would be blissfully untouched by

ancientgran · 07/02/2022 17:33

Yes but they still wouldn't need childcare for a 17 year old who is capable of going to college and holding down a job. If there are other costs (I know there are as my 17 year old GS lives with me) then it is fine to say that but pointless to include something that isn't a cost.

I do give GS lifts but as he looks down at me from his great height, I'm short, he'd probably die laughing if I said it was childcare.

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 17:36

But you see would see transportation of my 17 year old due to rural living, no public transport etc as a childcare cost.

If he was an adult, then I’d say it was up to him to arrange but that would have been the case before any incapacitating Injury.

It’s not just a “additional transport cost” it’s specifically relating to my child and what I had been doing for him by way of care before o was incapacitated!

Toanewstart23 · 07/02/2022 17:37

* I'm short, he'd probably die laughing if I said it was childcare.*

My 12 year old would be appalled if I said childcare

But it is a cost relating to the care of my child

Lalala1 · 07/02/2022 18:11

@Nomoreusernames1244

hasn’t done for the last 20 months because he was off work sick both aren’t reasons for not providing for your children period!

So when you have a broken neck and can’t work, where exactly is the money for CM supposed to come from?

i was made redundant for a year at one point. I couldn’t contribute towards my kids. As an RP though I got tax credits, child benefit, job seekers allowance, housing benefit etc which kept us afloat.

He wouldn’t have been living off no money he would have had benefits of some kind or sick pay from his employer! No ones said he should have been paying the same amount as when he was working but he should have at least been paying the measly £7 a week that the government states he has to. A NRP unemployed would be entitled to everything u have stated except the child benefit and tax credits because they are for the kids.

Honestly don’t get this thought process of single mums gets more in benefits ie the children’s benefits so that means NRPs don’t need to pay if they are unemployed or off sickConfused
There are no single mum benefits there is single person claims and joint claims! Do u honestly think PWC provide for there children on child tax and child benefit and don’t use any of their single person element towards there children?? Sorry kids your child benefit and child tax has ran out so can’t get you new school shoes even though u need them Hmm

Comefromaway · 07/02/2022 18:32

If I broke my neck then extra costs would be

£15 per week bus pass
Taxi fares for his late finishes (buses stop after 6.20pm)
There would be no possibility of a part time job or any extra curricular/socialising due to lack of transport

TheWeeDonkey · 07/02/2022 18:44

How many kids does he have, and does he take his responsibility to any of them seriously? As the daughter of a dead beat dad I'm sorry but they're lower than dirt to me.

TheWeeDonkey · 07/02/2022 18:46

And as sad as you feel about the response he's get here it will be nothing compared to what your brother will get when his children see him for who he really is.

ancientgran · 07/02/2022 18:50

@Toanewstart23

* I'm short, he'd probably die laughing if I said it was childcare.*

My 12 year old would be appalled if I said childcare

But it is a cost relating to the care of my child

Fine, we agree then it isn't child care.
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