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Aunt has died and her friend reluctant to leave her house

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JellyBook · 13/01/2020 12:34

Our aunt died late November and she had a friend staying when she died. The friend lives overseas and doesn’t want to go (yet, she says).

Just getting a bit nervy about whether she will decide to stay even longer, and what problems that might cause. She has been left a lump sum in the will. The house and belongings are left to the estate to be sold and shared amongst various family members. Aunty leaves no spouse or children.

Do we have anything to worry about or should we just proceed with probate, sale of house and just tell her you need to make arrangements to leave?

OP posts:
blackcat86 · 22/01/2020 13:24

It's awful how often this happens. Relatives of my elderly neighbour turned up a couple of months before she died. When she passed they threw all her stuff on the driveway or left it on the front wall to be taken by passers by. They hadnt ever visited before but still live in the house now - dont appear to have jobs. Similarly DHs elderly uncle was befriended by a women who then tried to get POA for him. The daughter intervened and they never saw her again. The same women then started visiting DHs grandmother in her care home and tried the same thing before realising GM had actually given her money to the church many years ago. No one heard from her since after this women randomly turning up at family events, befriending relatives and slagging of next of kin. Its like she tried to suddenly position herself at the centre of their lives without anyone noticing.

InABigCountry · 22/01/2020 13:25

Oh OP how awful, unfortunately most of us on here could see she was up to no good. Why is she questioning everything, it's absolutely nothing to do with her! Agree with PP that just say it's not up for discussion and also maybe someone should go on the Friday to check she's not up to anything. Sad

InABigCountry · 22/01/2020 13:26

Agree money brings out the worst in people and sometimes those that deserve the most get little or nothing.

PickwickThePlockingDodo · 22/01/2020 13:43

The Mumsnet massive was right again, weren't we? She is a CF and she did have plans to acquire your aunt's estate.

Yep that was pretty obvious when she tried for POA, she wasn't a kind lady looking out for her friend at all.

I would be tempted to take her out for dinner sooner and get the locks changed when you're out and have her belongings on the doorstep for when she returns. I think you're going to have trouble getting her out at the weekend now she knows about it.

I hope I'm wrong, good luck for Saturday, OP

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 22/01/2020 13:52

I agree about doing it early,book her the hotel,it'll be money well spent. Very hard to legally get someone out if they decide to stay, you'd like to think the police will just remove them but more than likely they'll just say it's a civil matter.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 22/01/2020 13:52

** I mean it's not hard legally but will take AGES to do it legally.

Forestwitch · 22/01/2020 14:01

As others have said, I'd move her to the hotel (dinner first) early. She could be planning something and you need to 'scupper' her evil plans.

wibdib · 22/01/2020 14:27

So sorry to hear about the nightmare you’ve had with this woman.

Given the terrible way she has behaved, I really think even more so now that the woman came over and got your aunt to add her into her will when it was updated after your uncle died when she spotted an opening. Because I bet your aunt hasn't left similar sums to other friends - not close ones and certainly not other ones from the era she knew this woman from and only kept in intermittent contact with...

Very suspicious.

Redonion123 · 22/01/2020 16:12

Thanks for the update

NettleTea · 22/01/2020 16:16

how did she account for all the stuff that was 'put somewhere safe'? Was it in her bags? Did you get all the jewelry and wedding rings? Are you sure you know about all of it because I bet thats she has more stashed away and is only giving you the stuff you remember

justilou1 · 22/01/2020 16:30

Is it possible to get police to check her bags for aunts belongings as she leaves?

Helini · 22/01/2020 16:37

Jesus Christ, OP. You've managed to stay cool calm and collected throughout this very unsettling time. You're a better person than me!

BronteSisters · 22/01/2020 17:18

I like @PickwickThePlockingDodo ' suggestion of taking CFer out to a farewell dinner... whilst another family member does a search for aunts hidden treasures that we all know this robbing witch probably has stashed in her suitcase!

Justsaynonow · 22/01/2020 18:41

@BronteSisters ...I like @PickwickThePlockingDodo ' suggestion of taking CFer out to a farewell dinner... whilst another family member does a search for aunts hidden treasures that we all know this robbing witch probably has stashed in her suitcase!

Ditto, and tell her to leave her bags at the house because you'll be coming back. Then go for dinner, have someone search the bags AND THEN take the bags to the hotel so she never goes back to the house.

nibdedibble · 22/01/2020 19:51

I wonder what she’s doing now. Did you leave her a lamp and a telly? Grin (Hope not!)

carly2803 · 22/01/2020 20:26

mygod ive have dropped kicked her out the door days ago.

she wont go saturday...i bet you

wowfudge · 22/01/2020 21:01

Make sure the estate agents know she isn't to be allowed back in the house and that she definitely does not have and isn't to have keys.

Pinkyyy · 22/01/2020 21:10

My god, I can't believe her!! You're nicer than me OP, I'd have kicked her out a long time ago, literally if necessary.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 22/01/2020 23:40

I'm so glad you managed to prevent her creaming off too much of your aunt's personal possessions - it chokes me that she has benefitted from a legacy that she tricked your aunt into leaving her though!

Is there any way that you can subtract the costs of her living in the house from that lump sum? Effectively, you could have rented it out had she not been "infesting" it (I know you wouldn't have done, but theoretically you could have.)

What a horrible woman!

justilou1 · 24/01/2020 03:37

I can’t wait to see if you need to crowbar this woman out

custardbear · 24/01/2020 04:35

Wow what a leech she turned out to be, hope you get her turfed our Saturday!

nibdedibble · 25/01/2020 08:20

@JellyBook Hoping today goes well and you can breathe a little easier at the end of it! Sending eviction vibes Grin

Sharonthetotallyinsane · 25/01/2020 08:29

Good luck for today.

atankofskunks · 25/01/2020 08:45

Good luck for today. We've dealt with similar in the past with a cf managing to convince an elderly aunt to rewrite a will, gifting everything to him. Thankfully this was discovered early enough to be sorted. I totally agree the the vultures though.

Noshowlomo · 25/01/2020 13:09

Good luck OP